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How about raising the contract lenght and contract extension to max 18 races instead of 17?
If you agree with this, please give a feedback, thanks
Benefits:
1) it will cover the gap between two season (according to OA limits)
2) it will enliven driver market anytime introducing an offset compared to the length of the seasons so the market will not live only in the two staff markets after the reset
Negative stuff:
0) no one
Possible objections:
1) We stay well with 17 races lenght so we don't wanto too much surprise for the faint hearted
2) it has been discussed before by the elders and cannot be discussed anymore forever
3) HOW DARE! a noob suggest a rule change?
MOD EDIT - Spelling error in title fixed
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#2 Postuar 7 Mars 2014, 10:30:09
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You can already sign a driver to 18 races if you simply extend his contract by 1 race right after you sign him.
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#3 Postuar 7 Mars 2014, 10:30:48
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Quote ( Scarliga Merluss @ March 7th 2014,10:27:24 ) Negative stuff:
Would make it much easier to manage your driver, taking away from a big management element of the game.
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#4 Postuar 7 Mars 2014, 10:30:52
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Quote ( Scarliga Merluss @ March 7th 2014,10:27:24 ) Negative stuff:
0) no one
1) Takes away some interesting strategy on the driver market, there are other ways to overcome the gap between two seasons with one driver
2) I really don't think the market will change a lot, the market may be a little more active during the season, but I do not think that goes to the point where you can really speak of an active market like in the beginning of a season.
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#5 Postuar 7 Mars 2014, 10:34:41
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Quote ( Wopke Hoekstra @ March 7th 2014,10:30:52 ) market will change a lot, the market m
Maybe only for those that achieve promotions, others ones will be cutted by the OA limit
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#6 Postuar 7 Mars 2014, 10:44:32
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I understand the problem is that it can be difficult to train a driver in 2 seasons to be ready for the next division. But really, Pro -> Master is the first division where this gets tough. Master -> Elite is another ball game entirely though.
How do I put this? There are things that you can do to make the transition easier. Signing a driver after Race 1 for a start. 33 races should be plenty to prepare Amateur -> Pro. You will probably find you need to stop training actually!
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#7 Postuar 7 Mars 2014, 11:11:30
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Quote ( Scarliga Merluss @ March 7th 2014,10:27:24 ) 1) it will cover the gap between two season (according to OA limits)
Make the contract offer the way, that it will run out at the beginning of next season, whatever race then. For my driver, his contract will run out at the end of R2 the following season.
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#8 Postuar 7 Mars 2014, 11:51:49
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Quote ( Scarliga Merluss @ March 7th 2014,10:27:24 ) Benefits:
1) it will cover the gap between two season (according to OA limits)
There are many ways for this as some others exposed above:
- Sign your driver after race 1/2
- Sign a driver and extend the contract by 1 or 2 races
Quote ( Scarliga Merluss @ March 7th 2014,10:27:24 ) 2) it will enliven driver market anytime introducing an offset compared to the length of the seasons so the market will not live only in the two staff markets after the reset
No, it will only change the timing of the market madness, thats all ;)
Quote ( Scarliga Merluss @ March 7th 2014,10:27:24 ) Negative stuff:
0) no one
Are you sure of this???
Quote ( Scarliga Merluss @ March 7th 2014,10:27:24 ) Possible objections:
1) We stay well with 17 races lenght so we don't wanto too much surprise for the faint hearted
2) it has been discussed before by the elders and cannot be discussed anymore forever
3) HOW DARE! a noob suggest a rule change?
1) Plain useless, no need to say that.
2) If you are sure about it it means you didn´t searched forum before just opening a thread to make the game easier. Chages that makes the game easier are never implemented, we don´t want an easier game, we like challenges ;)
3) HOW DARE! Someone suggests a rule change to make the game easier and make the game fits him instead trying to learn how to manage it???
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#9 Postuar 7 Mars 2014, 11:58:06
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Most of managers don't like to extend 1 or 2 races just after getting driver as it rises salary, but yea i agree that current system is working fine with contract lenght so far
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I am not sure why it would make the game easier......
But anyways, because now I can cover the OA gap even after hiring someone before R1, it will only increase the number of people participating in the madness...which is always created by promoters and first-timers.....who will continue hiring at R1 irrespective of whether or not the change is introduced
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Quote ( Harsh Sheth @ March 7th 2014,12:11:21 ) I am not sure why it would make the game easier......
because right now you have to keep track when you are getting your driver and for how long. if you get your driver on first race, then you will lose him when promoting to higher group.
if you add option to have driver for 18 races, then there is no chance that you will lose your driver.
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The solution is as simple as getting a driver a race late..something people eventually learn to do after slipping once
Doesnt really teach you anything......or require any real planning......m
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Quote ( Harsh Sheth @ March 7th 2014,12:21:59 ) The solution is as simple as getting a driver a race late..something people eventually learn to do after slipping once
yep and that's why there is no point of adding extension for 18 races
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yep, driver market madness is caused by lots of people changing groups, not because the contract length is 17 races. Changing to 18 would not solve this at all. As has been said before, hire your driver at the right time and this is a non issue, or continue to participate in market madness every other season.
Up to you
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Yes, i did say it is not a necessary suggestion
But it does not make the game as easy or less challenging as Fran makes it sound.....he is belittling somebody new for no reason.....even going to the heights of clsiming that the guy wants to make the game easier but does not want to learn how to manage it...
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Quote ( Harsh Sheth @ March 7th 2014,12:38:04 ) But it does not make the game as easy or less challenging as Fran makes it sound.....
How easy did I say Harsh? Please, read carefully and don´t misinterpret me ;)
Quote ( Harsh Sheth @ March 7th 2014,12:38:04 ) he is belittling somebody new for no reason.....
no I´m not
Quote ( Harsh Sheth @ March 7th 2014,12:38:04 ) even going to the heights of clsiming that the guy wants to make the game easier but does not want to learn how to manage it...
He said he want to extend the contract option to 18 races to avoid the gap between seasons, I offer him solutions to that problem instead changing the game to avoid the "incredible problem" of signing after race 1 or 2 ;)
On the contrary than you Harsh, I give opinions with arguments, not just plain attacks ;P
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Quote ( Scarliga Merluss @ March 7th 2014,10:27:24 ) 1) it will cover the gap between two season (according to OA limits) It is possible to gain ~50OA points in 17 races subject to certain conditions. It just depends on what your driver is like and what kind of training you want to give him. Besides as they say, OA isn't everything. Not too sure an extension of 18 races instead of 17 makes much of a difference.
Quote ( Scarliga Merluss @ March 7th 2014,10:27:24 ) 2) it will enliven driver market anytime introducing an offset compared to the length of the seasons so the market will not live only in the two staff markets after the reset But there are more managers looking for a driver at the start of the season. Your argument seems wrong but even if it weren't it only causes more problems imo.
Quote ( Scarliga Merluss @ March 7th 2014,10:27:24 ) 3) HOW DARE! a noob suggest a rule change? Hey! We aren't that 'harsh' to noobs! :P Seriously though, people who are less experienced do make suggestions that are unnecessary and can be easily solved. It's something they learn as time passes. And making those suggestion, the probably learn a bit sooner than they would which is a good thing I say.
Quote ( Fran Betancort @ March 7th 2014,12:46:47 ) I offer him solutions to that problem instead changing the game to avoid the "incredible problem" of signing after race 1 or 2 ;) But you don't have to use 'Harsh' words when trying to convey that :P
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Nice that you have a suggestion to bring and care about the game but i would say 17 max is best.
perhaps the extension lengths could be looked at however
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Thanks for the tips, I thought they were too obvious to be mentioned in the first message but you do not.
So how about lowering it to 16 races? ;D
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Don't quite see why we would have a contract lower than the length of a season. :)
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#21 Postuar 7 Mars 2014, 13:40:29 (Së fundi edituar 7 Mars 2014, 13:40:47 nga Carlo Merli)
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To add more SPARTA to the market
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Adding one
Quote ( Scarliga Merluss @ March 7th 2014,10:27:24 ) Possible objections:
1) We stay well with 17 races lenght so we don't wanto too much surprise for the faint hearted
2) it has been discussed before by the elders and cannot be discussed anymore forever
3) HOW DARE! a noob suggest a rule change?
4)We don't need more SPARTA on the drivers' market.
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Quote ( Fran Betancort @ March 7th 2014,12:46:47 ) Quote ( Harsh Sheth @ March 7th 2014,12:38:04 )he is belittling somebody new for no reason..... no I´m not
I don't always agree with Fran but I don't think he was belittling anyone.
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#24 Postuar 7 Mars 2014, 14:34:09 (Së fundi edituar 7 Mars 2014, 14:35:34 nga Harsh Sheth)
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Quote ( Fran Betancort @ March 7th 2014,12:46:47 ) How easy did I say Harsh? Please, read carefully and don´t misinterpret me ;)
Quote ( Fran Betancort @ March 7th 2014,11:51:49 ) make the game fits him instead trying to learn how to manage it???
Easy enough to say this.....
Quote ( Fran Betancort @ March 7th 2014,12:46:47 ) no I´m not
It felt like it, I mean, if I was on the other side, thats what I would have felt.....
When you say
Quote ( Fran Betancort @ March 7th 2014,11:51:49 ) we don´t want an easier game, we like challenges
why use 'we'? Sounded to me like you are talking about this superior group of people who are better than the guy making the suggestion
and I read it as "You want an easier game, you're scared of challenges."
That said, signing up a driver a race late is far from challenging
Quote ( Fran Betancort @ March 7th 2014,12:46:47 ) On the contrary than you Harsh, I give opinions with arguments, not just plain attacks ;P
umm okay :/
Quote ( David Andrewartha @ March 7th 2014,14:08:24 ) I don't always agree with Fran but I don't think he was belittling anyone.
Was just how I saw it, and I most certainly dont think he did anything intentionally, its just how he says stuff sometimes, all preachy and reeking of superiority
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Quote ( Harsh Sheth @ March 7th 2014,14:34:09 )
Quote ( Fran Betancort @ March 7th 2014,11:51:49 )
make the game fits him instead trying to learn how to manage it???
Easy enough to say this.....
When I quote you, I use a whole sentence not just half to misinterpret it on purpose, if you want to talk about proper use of a language, ok lets go ;)
Quote ( Harsh Sheth @ March 7th 2014,14:34:09 ) why use 'we'? Sounded to me like you are talking about this superior group of people who are better than the guy making the suggestion
I´m sorry buy English is not my mother language, never tried to sound like part of superior group, if you interpret it, I can do nothing about it.
Quote ( Harsh Sheth @ March 7th 2014,14:34:09 ) and I read it as "You want an easier game, you're scared of challenges."
I never said something who can get you to think me saying or thinking someone is scared, you are to far from what I said. If you want to misinterpret it, OK, but don´t put in my mouth words I didn´t say.
Quote ( Harsh Sheth @ March 7th 2014,14:34:09 ) That said, signing up a driver a race late is far from challenging
Why? Depends on the challenge, I want to keep my driver season after season and get as high as I can, isn´t that a challenge?
What´s a challenge for you? Losing a driver every two seasons and get involved into the market madness because you are lazy enough to simply do any planning?
Quote ( Harsh Sheth @ March 7th 2014,14:34:09 ) Was just how I saw it, and I most certainly dont think he did anything intentionally, its just how he says stuff sometimes, all preachy and reeking of superiority
Maybe is just how you interpret it. No intonation can be read, and everyone interprets what he/she wants ;)
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Have to agree with Fran here, "we" or not i can't see how
Quote ( Fran Betancort @ March 7th 2014,11:51:49 ) Changes that makes the game easier are never implemented, we don´t want an easier game, we like challenges
can be read like that:
Quote ( Harsh Sheth @ March 7th 2014,14:34:09 ) and I read it as "You want an easier game, you're scared of challenges."
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Fran, you sound arrogant in that last post of yours. He is trying to explain how he perceived your post. Instead, it seems you feel he is still attacking you, which explains the sense of arrogance. I feel both parties have given satisfactory explanations and it can be safely concluded that it was merely a misunderstanding. Now kiss and make up! :D
to #26
Actually it can. When you state that 'We don't want an easier game' you make it sound like the third party is requesting an easier game. Whether Scarliga meant that or not is a different story.
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Quote ( Yug Desai @ March 7th 2014,16:37:20 ) Fran, you sound arrogant in that last post of yours. He is trying to explain how he perceived your post. Instead, it seems you feel he is still attacking you, which explains the sense of arrogance.
LOL So, I gave an opinion related to the thread, he instead of doing same judged me and interpreted what he wanted from my post, and I´m the arrogant? ROFLOL
I don´t see anyone else so freaking hurt by my words but him ;)
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I was just passing by, saw the Contract thing in the thread title and decided to pull a Winkley: 12.5% higher salary is way too much!
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Quote ( Fran Betancort @ March 7th 2014,16:43:51 )
Quote ( Yug Desai @ March 7th 2014,16:37:20 )
Fran, you sound arrogant in that last post of yours. He is trying to explain how he perceived your post. Instead, it seems you feel he is still attacking you, which explains the sense of arrogance.
Quote ( Fran Betancort @ March 7th 2014,15:04:56 )
When I quote you, I use a whole sentence not just half to misinterpret it on purpose, if you want to talk about proper use of a language, ok lets go ;)
Quote ( Yug Desai @ March 7th 2014,16:37:20 ) Fran, you sound arrogant in that last post of yours. He is trying to explain how he perceived your post. Instead, it seems you feel he is still attacking you, which explains the sense of arrogance. I feel both parties have given satisfactory explanations and it can be safely concluded that it was merely a misunderstanding. Now kiss and make up! :D
Fran you missed part of it 8-)
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