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Worst F1 driver ever?
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Quote ( Sam Wainwright @ November 30th 2015,17:04:04 ) Perry Mccarthy
You do know that Andrea Moda's team owner Andrea Sassetti purposely minimized McCarthy's chances to qualify in order to make him leave the team so he could install other drivers(Bertaggia&Caffi, who had more money) or use the 2nd car as spare car for #1 driver Roberto Moreno?
Probably not.
Quote ( Hector Santiago @ November 30th 2015,17:48:57 ) Al Pease, why? 1969 Canadian Grand Prix
I think the main reason for his disqualification was that he was putting other drivers at risk when being lapped, that's why Ken Tyrrell went to see the race officials as Jackie Stewart nearly collided with Pease. So the reason was probably labelled as "too slow" rather than "dangerous behaviour while being lapped".
If the speed had been an issue, they'd have disqualified him much earlier, as he had completed 22 laps when the leader already had been on his 46th lap.
But that doesn't really change the fact he wasn't a very fast driver in F1...
Although his efforts to race without having a chance in his Eagle are quite outstanding. In 1967, he spun in torrential rain and couldn't restart as his battery went flat. So he went back to the pits(by foot) and got a spare one. Even though he wasn't classified as he was too far back, he still drove until the end.
In 1968, the reason he didn't start to the race was that he took his engine apart and couldn't put it back together in time for the start. He suspected something was wrong with it.
It's strange to hear that he's been inducted the the Canadian Motorsport Hall of Fame in 1998 if you hear about his F1 adventures. But maybe F1 was just a tad too different for him.
He died in 2014 btw.
Some people here don't know what bad really is. Maldonado&Co. look like aces compared to them.
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I'll go with good old Paolo Barilla
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How come Maldonado wins this poll ?
Crazy yes, but Slow come on...that's not true
Imo, he is one of the fastest driver...only problem he achieves that only once every 10 laps. And also once every 10 laps, he makes a mistake.
He has one of the worse consistency for a F1 driver, and worst luck. But regarding pace, he is far from bad.
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I will change the question slightly
Who is the worst F1 champion ? Who would be last if all F1 champs raced in the same car ?
IMO Jacques Villeneuve
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Quote ( Farcy Génel @ November 30th 2015,19:13:12 ) Who is the worst F1 champion ? Who would be last if all F1 champs raced in the same car ?
IMO Jacques Villeneuve
Farina wasn't particularly special, he just had the best car (actually discounting the indy 500 where f1 cars werent used, the Alfas took all poles, fastest laps and wins in 1950 - eat that mercedes) luck in the form of Fangio suffering from unreliability
Pretty much all other champs deserve to be champions imo, even Villeneuve - he actually was really good in his twenties. His reputation just got tarnished later because he was, erm, less good in his 30's
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Quote ( David Jundt @ November 30th 2015,18:54:20 ) You do know that Andrea Moda's team owner Andrea Sassetti purposely minimized McCarthy's chances to qualify in order to make him leave the team so he could install other drivers(Bertaggia&Caffi, who had more money) or use the 2nd car as spare car for #1 driver Roberto Moreno?
Probably not.
I just said it as a joke cause he was The Stig tbh. I have nowhere near enough knowledge of F1 history to give a serious answer to this question, and I'd say not many here do. I know enough to say it isn't Maldonado though, that's for sure.
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Sorry, I missed the sarcasm/joke as there wasn't a smiley face :P
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Quote ( Sam Wainwright @ November 30th 2015,17:04:04 ) Perry Mccarthy :D :P xD
Fixed :)
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Quote ( Sam Wainwright @ November 30th 2015,17:04:04 ) Perry Mccarthy
I have Perry McCarthy in my Gpro Drivers history (season 48, race 4), and I confirm : he was a terrible driver !
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Quote ( Javier Caceres @ October 2nd 2015,13:54:43 ) maldonado is not so bad, is simply an idiot with no brain.
if pastor think a little. maybe he will be good
This is the whole shame of Maldonado. He's fully capable of being a good driver, but it's the long list of bonehead moments that ruins him. Drivers make mistakes and drivers crash, including great ones. Hamilton's had some bonehead moments where I just wanted to strangle him, and I'm a Hamilton fan. The problem with Maldonado is it's just too often. If you've got websites devoted to whether or not you've crashed today, you should be ashamed, and that's Maldonado.
http://hasmaldonadocrashedtoday.com/
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#129 Postuar 24 Janar 2016, 23:51:23 (Së fundi edituar 24 Janar 2016, 23:54:51 nga Jorge Jury)
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Probably approaching this from a different angle to most, but I'd put Webber, Irvine, Massa & Barachello on the list. All of them had the opportunity to win championships due to their dominant cars, but none of them did, all overshadowed by their team mates. With this in mind, Barachello is the big loser for me, not only failing to match Schumi but also Button.
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#132 Postuar 27 Janar 2016, 13:13:30 (Së fundi edituar 27 Janar 2016, 13:19:15 nga Jake Clark)
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"Pastor Maldonado 85 (34%)"
Why?, He's the only driver out of the ones in the poll who has won a Grand Prix.
I'll give it to Al Pease. The only driver ever to be disqualified for "driving too slowly"
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but they all won multiple races, but I do see your point Mark.
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Quote ( Mark Barker @ January 27th 2016,13:09:32 ) With this in mind, Barachello is the big loser for me, not only failing to match Schumi
How many times did Schumi win or get the podium because his team mate stoped near the finish and let him overtake?!
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Quote ( Jake Clark @ January 27th 2016,13:13:30 ) "Pastor Maldonado 85 (34%)"Why?, He's the only driver out of the ones in the poll who has won a race.
yes he did win a race, I don't know how but apart from that he is a clown.
maybe a new poll "worst f1 driver to ever win a race"
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Quote ( Xhulio Pema @ January 27th 2016,13:15:58 ) How many times did Schumi win or get the podium because his team mate stoped near the finish and let him overtake?!
the blokes on deaths door, please less of that.
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Pastor Maldonado worst driver ever? WHAAATT??? He won a race and really humiliated Bruno Senna in the 2012 season, then he's paying the orrible performance of Lotus in the last years. Ok, he's making incidents very often but it's ok, it's one of the last funny parts of the races :D
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#138 Postuar 27 Janar 2016, 13:21:33 (Së fundi edituar 27 Janar 2016, 13:21:54 nga Jake Clark)
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Quote ( James Keeble @ January 27th 2016,13:16:04 ) yes he did win a race, I don't know how but apart from that he is a clown.
maybe a new poll "worst f1 driver to ever win a race"
He's just had some bad luck over the last two years (apart from his Chinese GP 2014 practice embarrassment) he hasn't really done anything to give him his usual laughable status.
Pastor Maldonado isn't even the worst driver on the current grid, let alone ever. If you ask me, the worst driver of 2015 was Marcus Ericcson.
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Quote ( Xhulio Pema @ January 27th 2016,13:15:58 ) Quote ( Mark Barker @ January 27th 2016,13:09:32 )
With this in mind, Barachello is the big loser for me, not only failing to match Schumi
How many times did Schumi win or get the podium because his team mate stoped near the finish and let him overtake?! You're right, many times. But the question here is why? As driver the team must've seen something special to allow this to happen. If any of his team mates had been better would the roles not have been reversed?
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Quote ( Mark Barker @ January 27th 2016,13:09:32 ) but I'd put Webber, Irvine, Massa & Barachello on the list. All of them had the opportunity to win championships due to their dominant cars, but none of them did, all overshadowed by their team mates
All of them multiple grand prix winners, all of them came quite damn close of a championship at some stage of their career. Even in the last 25 years we've had guys like Kovalainen, Verstappen, Herbert, Lehto(, Coulthard, Fisico - tho they belong to the category above really) who also had the car to take the title but never even came close (and we can go further back to find - for example - many of Lotus #2 drivers from 60's and 70's who barely even scored points). Thus, even if we discount the drivers who never had a chance to take the title, you're only insulting the drivers you've mentioned
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Quote ( Xhulio Pema @ January 27th 2016,13:15:58 ) Quote ( Mark Barker @ January 27th 2016,13:09:32 )
With this in mind, Barachello is the big loser for me, not only failing to match Schumi
How many times did Schumi win or get the podium because his team mate stoped near the finish and let him overtake?! You must've missed the 2002 USGP.....
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I think there are worst than him. In the 50s and 60s there were plenty of drivers with just a race under their belt.
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Quote ( Mason Somoza @ January 25th 2016,00:44:42 ) Eddie Cheever
Wow. And he's even one of the rather decent Americans that drove in F1.
Quote ( Mark Barker @ January 27th 2016,13:09:32 ) With this in mind, Barachello is the big loser for me
You could at least take your time to try and spell his name correctly.
Quote ( Mark Barker @ January 27th 2016,13:09:32 ) I'll give it to Al Pease. The only driver ever to be disqualified for "driving too slowly"
Please see my post #120 about him. Being too slow wasn't the issue imo, more that he was unsafe/dangerous while being slow.
Quote ( Xhulio Pema @ January 27th 2016,13:15:58 ) How many times did Schumi win or get the podium because his team mate stoped near the finish and let him overtake?!
Austria 2002 then led to the rather amusing finish at the USA GP :D
Quote ( Jake Clark @ January 27th 2016,13:21:33 ) If you ask me, the worst driver of 2015 was Marcus Ericcson.
Which would mean that Felipe Nasr waa partially the worst driver as he lost out in Q and R in the second half of the season. Did you notice that? :P
Quote ( Alin Costrasuc @ January 27th 2016,16:33:31 ) I think there are worst than him. In the 50s and 60s there were plenty of drivers with just a race under their belt.
At least they qualified for one! :P
Although Bernie said Monaco wasn't a serious attempt and he was only a reserve driver for Fairman at the British GP.
Excuses, excuses xD
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