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Temë: Nico Rosberg retires from Formula One |
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#91 Postuar 3 Dhjetor 2016, 19:14:42
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Quote ( James Berriman @ December 3rd 2016,14:15:56 ) Good times Dave:) we earned a fair amount of cash for talking GPRO and F1 =)
I do remember one day we did some work mate, I think GPRO and F1 were both between seasons at the time though...
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#92 Postuar 3 Dhjetor 2016, 22:10:23
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Quote ( Jack Wemyss @ December 3rd 2016,14:48:24 ) Nobody in history has been handed FOUR world championships more fortuitously than Sebastian Vettel.
watching Hamilton destroy that spoilt brat at Mercedes next year would be nice :)
Quote ( David Andrewartha @ December 3rd 2016,19:14:42 ) I do remember one day we did some work mate, I think GPRO and F1 were both between seasons at the time though...
Yeah between seasons maybe and during the Vettel era with splashes of GPRO rage here and there :) or when we had a FLOC or a LOS XD
Quote ( Michael Jones @ December 3rd 2016,18:42:05 ) But not still win with an economy mode in force.
I think you can easily in a merc when you're 30 seconds in the lead and your teammate is down in 5th, giving it full beans because "he" lashed up his start again :D
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#93 Postuar 3 Dhjetor 2016, 22:12:32
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Felipe Nasr, Your chance guy.
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#94 Postuar 4 Dhjetor 2016, 00:49:55
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Quote ( James Berriman @ December 3rd 2016,17:30:48 ) Like when they stopped Hamilton overcooking that pit entry and beaching his car in the gravel years ago ? or that time he thought it was wise to play chicken with Maldonado ?
I mean... I was pretty sure this conversation was about this year. So, no. Like none of those times.
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#95 Postuar 4 Dhjetor 2016, 06:18:12 (Së fundi edituar 4 Dhjetor 2016, 06:19:15 nga Luke Frost)
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Quote ( Robert Kearney @ December 3rd 2016,14:33:43 ) Good bye Rosberg, the worst driver ever to win a championship IMO.
The nationalism is so strong with some people. Rosberg was supremely talented and IMO he's the only driver to really give Hamilton problems. I rate Hamilton highly - he was clearly a few levels above Rosberg under equal circumstances - but that is such a sad and bitter statement and you don't even mean it.
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#96 Postuar 4 Dhjetor 2016, 08:57:32
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Quote ( Luke Frost @ December 4th 2016,06:18:12 ) The nationalism is so strong with some people. Rosberg was supremely talented and IMO he's the only driver to really give Hamilton problems. I rate Hamilton highly - he was clearly a few levels above Rosberg under equal circumstances - but that is such a sad and bitter statement and you don't even mean it.
People have opinions and you are free to agree or disagree with them, of course, but I don't see why you bring nationality in to it. A quick scan of this very thread shows people of different nationalities sharing the kind of opinion Robert has expressed.
Any chance of a grown up discussion without making unfounded accusations of prejudice or discrimination?
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#97 Postuar 4 Dhjetor 2016, 09:27:16
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Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ December 4th 2016,08:57:32 ) Any chance of a grown up discussion without making unfounded accusations of prejudice or discrimination?
NO!!
How dare you make founded accusations against those making unfounded accusations.
Nico Rosberg retires from Formula One
Quite frankly I do not believe Nico is a great driver. He is a good, consistent driver for sure, but he is not one that can get the most out of a car. He needs a lot of luck to really excell.
I think his retirement has more to do with him understanding that he is likely to fade into the shadow of Hamilton over the next few years. This is regardless of whether Mercedes come out on top with the new rule changes.
Nico cannot adapt to changes as well as can many other drivers, he is not a guy that can step into a car and really push it. With a new car next year he would be soundly beaten by Hamilton.
When you look at it from his point of view: Why take the risk of fading away into the shadow of a teammate when you can go out on top. There is also a chance that Mercedes will not be the dominant car it has been, what with the new rules coming online. He can now forever claim that he beat Hamilton in equal cars.
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#98 Postuar 4 Dhjetor 2016, 09:37:18
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Yeah I think it is a great decision by Rosberg Btw is this the 1st time he has beat a team mate ?
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Quote ( Cale Murray @ December 4th 2016,09:37:18 ) Yeah I think it is a great decision by Rosberg Btw is this the 1st time he has beat a team mate ?
2006 he was beat by webber (7 to 4)
2007 he beat combined(alexander wurz and nakajima) (20 to 13)
2008 he beat nakajima (17 to 9)
2009 he beat nakajima (34.5 to 0)
2010 he beat schumacher (142 to 72)
2011 he beat schumacher (89 to 76)
2012 he beat schumacher (93 to 49)
2013 beaten by hamilton (189 to 171)
2014 beaten by hamilton (384 to 317)
2015 beaten by hamilton (381 to 322)
2016 he beat hamilton (385 to 380)
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Quote ( Cale Murray @ December 4th 2016,09:37:18 ) Yeah I think it is a great decision by Rosberg Btw is this the 1st time he has beat a team mate ?
Definiately not. His last 7 season in F1 he scored 4. 3 season with M. Schumacher, whoose was over his peak, but Nico beat him 3/3. Against Hamilton he had 4 seasons, and only once triumphed. Overall from 4 times beat your team mate is impressive, seeing the names whoose was those team mates.
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Hes probably sick of being in the team as that tool Hamilton.
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Quote ( Luke Frost @ December 4th 2016,06:18:12 ) Quote ( Robert Kearney @ December 3rd 2016,14:33:43 )
Good bye Rosberg, the worst driver ever to win a championship IMO.
The nationalism is so strong with some people. Rosberg was supremely talented and IMO he's the only driver to really give Hamilton problems. I rate Hamilton highly - he was clearly a few levels above Rosberg under equal circumstances - but that is such a sad and bitter statement and you don't even mean it.
You haven't got a clue Luke. Nationalism ? I hate Hamilton ( as I said on previous posts) and I wanted Rosberg to win this championship. At the end of the day the title was between two guys, whoever raced for Mercedes. Hamilton is a spoilt brat and I don't personally support him whether he is supposedly British or not. So I stand by my statement that Rosberg is the worst world champion I can ever remember. Hamilton is a better driver than Rosberg though, no matter the outcome of the title, I agree with you on that.
So why is it sad ? Why is it bitter ? And why would I state it if I didn't mean it ?
Go on then, if you disagree why don't you state a world champion less talented than Rosberg mate ?
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Quote ( Daniel Douglas @ December 4th 2016,09:50:09 ) 2007 he beat combined(alexander wurz and nakajima) (20 to 13)
2008 he beat nakajima (17 to 9)
2009 he beat nakajima (34.5 to 0)
2010 he beat schumacher (142 to 72)
2011 he beat schumacher (89 to 76)
2012 he beat schumacher (93 to 49)
Ok cool I didn't think he beat Schumacher so convincingly I thought they were closer then that and Sorry about Nakajima wasn't really remembering him that will not be in Rosberg greatest achievments :) .
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Quote ( Robert Kearney @ December 4th 2016,11:55:19 ) Hamilton is a spoilt brat and I don't personally support him whether he is supposedly British or not.
So, Rosberg was not spoiled ? And he is suppose to be genuine German? (father Finn and living nearly all his life in Monaco)
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Wasn't the point that nationality is irrelevant to the discussion? It certainly shouldn't have any relevance.
And maybe best to not have any opinion on "how German" someone is, if history is anything to go by
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Quote ( Alin Costrasuc @ December 4th 2016,17:00:43 ) Quote ( Robert Kearney @ December 4th 2016,11:55:19 )
Hamilton is a spoilt brat and I don't personally support him whether he is supposedly British or not.
So, Rosberg was not spoiled ? And he is suppose to be genuine German? (father Finn and living nearly all his life in Monaco)
I don't like Rosberg either and his nationality is nothing to do with that opinion. But, it's rather like a choice between two guys I personally don't like. Overall Hamilton is far more talented than Rosberg whatever the nationality though. Making me choose between the two was pretty unfair though, a bit like that USA election recently where the choice was between dumb and dumber.
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#108 Postuar 4 Dhjetor 2016, 23:09:17 (Së fundi edituar 4 Dhjetor 2016, 23:12:38 nga Cale Murray)
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I don't like Rosberg or Hamilton either and I am neither Nationalities BUT I couldn't say Hamilton is Heaps more talented yes overall I think he is a little bit as history will show 4 years they are team mates the score is 3-1 and Rosberg
overall in Qualifing Over 4 years hamilton leads 42-36 that is pretty close in the races abit easier 45-33.
Interestingly Mark Webber out qualified him 13-5 :)
This is also the 1st time Hamilton has been Beaten by a team mate the question is would anyone do better then Rosberg did we will have to wait , that is what will make next year good :)
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I'm not sure they can afford to put a junior in, Ves and Ric are going to be ultra consistent next season assuming they have the same relative pace as now, and chances are Ferrari will do slightly better as well. So if they only have Hamilton scoring on a regular basis they won't get enough points to win constructors.
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Quote ( Brendan Evans @ December 4th 2016,23:11:32 ) I'm not sure they can afford to put a junior in
They won't put a bad Junior we have seen with both Verstappen and Sainz that you can get guys from outside and be quick they know how Quick these guys are compared to Hamilton and Rosberg.
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#111 Postuar 4 Dhjetor 2016, 23:38:37 (Së fundi edituar 4 Dhjetor 2016, 23:38:49 nga Tim Wagner)
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Quote ( Robert Kearney @ December 4th 2016,11:55:19 ) Go on then, if you disagree why don't you state a world champion less talented than Rosberg mate ?
Jacques Villeneuve.
Didn't had anything of the stuff his father had.
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Quote ( Cale Murray @ December 4th 2016,23:15:03 ) They won't put a bad Junior we have seen with both Verstappen and Sainz that you can get guys from outside and be quick they know how Quick these guys are compared to Hamilton and Rosberg.
I know they won't put a bad junior in, but for example the juniors they already have contracted aren't exactly screaming future champions at the moment. I just can't see Ocon or Wherlin being as useful as they require. I can't wait to see what they decide.
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Quote ( Cale Murray @ December 4th 2016,23:09:17 ) This is also the 1st time Hamilton has been Beaten by a team mate
You sure Button didn't beat him in 2011?
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Quote ( Stuart Foster @ December 5th 2016,00:00:28 ) You sure Button didn't beat him in 2011?
Oh yes in points he beat him 270-227 in qualifying Hamilton12-7 and in the races button 10-9 I was looking more at quali My mistake :)
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Perhaps Toto can chuck his Mrs in the car. That'll definitely keep all sponsors & media focussed on them :)
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