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Brian Ice
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Postim i vjeter #1 Postuar 12 Qershor 2021, 00:00:34 Citim 
Today my first pit wasn't due to weather change, but it happened exactly when the weather changed. It took me about 13-14s more than it should, but the crew changed the tyres to dry, so there was no reason for that extra time.

I think that's a bug that only happens if you are leading the race and enter pit at the exact moment that the weather changes.

So weird, i've been scammed today.
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Postim i vjeter #2 Postuar 12 Qershor 2021, 00:04:03 Citim 
How can you be sure it's because you were leading the race? Maybe you were just unlucky with the timing. I'm sure it has nothing to do with you being in the lead at that exact moment (though I am not certain of course).
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Postim i vjeter #3 Postuar 12 Qershor 2021, 06:43:39 Citim 
If you put a lot of fuel in and had bad luck in the pits then the 34 second time is also possible.
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Postim i vjeter #4 Postuar 12 Qershor 2021, 06:51:50 Citim 
Quote ( Danniel Cao @ June 12th 2021,00:04:03 )

How can you be sure it's because you were leading the race? Maybe you were just unlucky with the timing. I'm sure it has nothing to do with you being in the lead at that exact moment (though I am not certain of course).


I'm unsure as well.

But i'm taking 20-21 seconds in every pit and... suddenly +14s!
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Postim i vjeter #5 Postuar 12 Qershor 2021, 07:48:32 Citim 
20-21 in rookie???

Dude...

You must be so lucky
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Postim i vjeter #6 Postuar 12 Qershor 2021, 08:43:17 Citim 
Quote ( André de Carvalho @ June 12th 2021,07:48:32 )

20-21 in rookie???

Dude...

You must be so lucky


I want his pit crew
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Postim i vjeter #7 Postuar 12 Qershor 2021, 10:29:45 (Së fundi edituar 12 Qershor 2021, 10:35:58 nga Atli Thor Johannesson) Citim 
Quote ( Brian Ice @ June 12th 2021,06:51:50 )

I'm unsure as well.
But i'm taking 20-21 seconds in every pit and... suddenly +14s!

Perhaps think of it this way..

Your inexperienced pit crew was set up and ready with dry tires, for a scheduled stop.
Suddenly there is panic, as it starts to rain after they were ready....
The someone shouts... rain tires, rain tires,, and the tire crew runs around trying to allocate the rain tires.
They succeed and you are back on track, but with a bad delay....

Rookie pitcrews are not coordinated and professional like at the upper levels, but you still see long pitstops there, especially at weather changes.

But, there might be a way to "lessen the pitstop panic hit" and it might just be a matter of figuring it out. :) :)

Then again, there might not be a way. ;þ

The forum in a goldmine of info though, try mining it a bit. ;)
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Postim i vjeter #8 Postuar 12 Qershor 2021, 12:04:52 Citim 
Quote ( Atli Thor Johannesson @ June 12th 2021,10:29:45 )

Your inexperienced pit crew was set up and ready with dry tires, for a scheduled stop.
Suddenly there is panic, as it starts to rain after they were ready....
The someone shouts... rain tires, rain tires,, and the tire crew runs around trying to allocate the rain tires.
They succeed and you are back on track, but with a bad delay....


He came out on dry tyres...

And he pitted on the last dry lap.
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Postim i vjeter #9 Postuar 12 Qershor 2021, 12:25:07 Citim 
Quote ( Richard Robin Paukson @ June 12th 2021,12:04:52 )

He came out on dry tyres...



And he pitted on the last dry lap.


Just after he hits the pitlane, it starts raining.
The panic is on...even more confusion, they even sent him out on the right/wrong tires... idiots..lol
The crew is inexperienced in all aspects,, no efficiency, can´t handle much pressure and just run around like idiots...this is rookie, right? Mistakes are made. :)

But its all fun, even though it´s annoying at times :)



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Postim i vjeter #10 Postuar 12 Qershor 2021, 12:26:25 Citim 
Maybe they were looking for their umbrellas. :)
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Postim i vjeter #11 Postuar 12 Qershor 2021, 12:49:44 Citim 
Quote ( Richard Robin Paukson @ June 12th 2021,12:26:25 )

Maybe they were looking for their umbrellas. :)


This is why i always keep an umbrella with me, besides the fact that i want to yell "Im freaking Mary Poppins yall!"
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Postim i vjeter #12 Postuar 12 Qershor 2021, 13:02:39 Citim 
i only want to say, that i saw in my race a manager with a total of 53 races and his pit was direct in lap 22 as raining starts. Pit time only 21,5 seconds. Tyres have been changed to rain tyres

seems to be elite pit crew as per some explanations....
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Postim i vjeter #13 Postuar 12 Qershor 2021, 13:20:04 (Së fundi edituar 12 Qershor 2021, 13:20:42 nga Atli Thor Johannesson) Citim 
Quote ( Torge Thorsson @ June 12th 2021,13:02:39 )

seems to be elite pit crew as per some explanations....

Even amateurs can occasionally fluke it spot on, right?
But probably not consistently.... :)
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Postim i vjeter #14 Postuar 12 Qershor 2021, 14:47:13 Citim 
Well it does seem unfair to have the first pit take significantly longer AND come out on the wrong tires, only to have to pit again 2 laps later.

Note I do understand why the pits take extra time and what can be done about it.

I think for the situations were the weather changes exactly as you enter the pitlane, it would be more reasonable to suffer twice the standard extra time for the pit crew not being ready, but get to exit on the correct tires.


If the OP could have spent 40-50s in the pits the first time and exited on rain tires, he would have won the race. Instead he came third.
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Postim i vjeter #15 Postuar 12 Qershor 2021, 15:44:43 Citim 
All fun about rookie pitcrews aside, wasn't this reported a few times before?
This being: seemingly getting the stressed weather stop time bonus combined with still coming out on the wrong tyres?
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Postim i vjeter #16 Postuar 12 Qershor 2021, 16:13:19 Citim 
I'm in Master and I had double pit as well last race. But my race was messed up by that time anyway. Still double pits can happen also on higher levels it's not a bug... unfortunately...
You should look in to race analysis there is written the reason for a stop on lap 20
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Postim i vjeter #17 Postuar 13 Qershor 2021, 10:14:43 Citim 
Quote ( Miel Soeterbroek @ June 12th 2021,15:44:43 )

This being: seemingly getting the stressed weather stop time bonus combined with still coming out on the wrong tyres?

Can't have that, it's a "way too realistic" bug? :)
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Postim i vjeter #18 Postuar 13 Qershor 2021, 13:05:35 (Së fundi edituar 13 Qershor 2021, 13:06:33 nga Rui Morais) Citim 
Quote ( Brian Ice @ June 12th 2021,00:00:34 )

pit bug


The closest thing I had was a Pit Bull... not sure if it counts...

Maybe a pit bug from Red Bull ?
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Postim i vjeter #19 Postuar 13 Qershor 2021, 13:16:13 Citim 
Quote ( Atli Thor Johannesson @ June 13th 2021,10:14:43 )

Quote ( Miel Soeterbroek @ June 12th 2021,15:44:43 )

This being: seemingly getting the stressed weather stop time bonus combined with still coming out on the wrong tyres?
Can't have that, it's a "way too realistic" bug? :)

I vaguely recall that it was identified as a bug by one of the admins, and presumed it was fixed. That was the origin of my confusion.

Within the limited parameters of GPRO realism, i'd say a stop that still puts on the regular/expected tyres either shouldn't have the added stress factor - cause the pit is done before the finish line or whatever silly justification there was/is - OR should switch to the other type of tyres, cause the stop happens after the finish line and that's when the weather already changed, or whatever silly reason :)
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Postim i vjeter #20 Postuar 13 Qershor 2021, 14:02:53 (Së fundi edituar 13 Qershor 2021, 14:04:02 nga Ilia Lilov) Citim 
It happened once to me as well to run out of fuel exactly when the weather changed and to come out on the wrong tires... I must say it feels pretty bad. Honestly even if there was an extra long stop (even longer than the current surprise pitstop penalty) but coming out on the appropriate tires for the new weather conditions it would be a lot better.
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Postim i vjeter #21 Postuar 13 Qershor 2021, 19:41:31 Citim 
Quote ( Brian Ice @ June 12th 2021,00:00:34 )

so there was no reason for that extra time.

Well, its' rookie, they don't really need any particular reason for taking a long time

Basically it's the drivers dad changing the tyres while mom fills up the driver with tea and cookies :)

So it's quite understandable if they get disorientated sometimes
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Postim i vjeter #22 Postuar 14 Qershor 2021, 19:12:27 Citim 
Quote ( Brian Ice @ June 12th 2021,00:00:34 )

but it happened exactly when the weather changed


They sure were all very ready with the dry tires. It probably was a weather change pit stop.
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Postim i vjeter #23 Postuar 15 Qershor 2021, 22:01:48 Citim 
i was set "wait to pit if it stops raining " 10 laps - but i boxed on lap 53 only 1 lap after it stopped raining with over 20% fuel / tyres left - anyone else have the same problem ?
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Postim i vjeter #24 Postuar 15 Qershor 2021, 23:16:52 Citim 
Quote ( Terence Webb @ June 15th 2021,22:01:48 )

i was set "wait to pit if it stops raining " 10 laps - but i boxed on lap 53 only 1 lap after it stopped raining with over 20% fuel / tyres left - anyone else have the same problem ?


Check your race analysis, Sir; most likely remainder of your rain tyres burnt out in a lap or two.
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