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Oud bericht #1828 geplaatst Okt 17 2016, 19:55:00 (laatst aangepast Okt 17 2016, 20:01:51 door Roger Bergman) Quote 
I like energy. With very good driver and good car, you can win using low CT.

Before DE, with CT 50 was possible win in pro. Now, i can win races with CT0 (achievement Just don't scratch it) and i can win much money (and pay much casual taxes in end of season). Before DE, this achievement was possible only in amateur. Now, its possible in PRO.

The problem of DE has not been announced with 1 or 2 seasons in advance.

I was lucky to have a very good driver, but who has weak driver and low car lvl was impaired, and therefore, is complaining of DE.

I suggest suspend DE, and establish a return in 2-3 seasons.

All managers can train driver, work in car lvl, to stay in a good position when DE return.
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Oud bericht #1829 geplaatst Okt 17 2016, 20:53:52 Quote 
You are selfish moron Roger :D
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Oud bericht #1830 geplaatst Okt 17 2016, 20:57:01 Quote 
I don't think it's possible to "suspend DE and establish a return in 2-3 seasons" but it would be really nice if the invention of driver energy was at least announced earlier so that we would know that there was no need to waste time on training a young driver. Otherwise driver energy is a good idea.
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Oud bericht #1831 geplaatst Okt 17 2016, 21:07:05 Quote 
"Your Driver Had To Make a Pit Stop To Sniff a Gram Of Flake For Me Energy"
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Oud bericht #1832 geplaatst Okt 17 2016, 22:19:11 (laatst aangepast Okt 17 2016, 22:25:33 door Stuart Foster) Quote 
Quote ( Konstantin Kiskinov @ October 17th 2016,20:57:01 )

I don't think it's possible to "suspend DE and establish a return in 2-3 seasons" but it would be really nice if the invention of driver energy was at least announced earlier so that we would know that there was no need to waste time on training a young driver. Otherwise driver energy is a good idea.


You had your driver since S50 though, so even 2/3 season's notice would change nothing for you at this point had you even known 2/3 season's after you started training him instead of 5. And you can't really say you'd have abandoned training him since the first 2 season's of training are where the best gains are :) I don't see how it would be any different for you really.

As for the rest of us, I don't know what anyone else would have done differently if the admins had turned round in the beginning of S53 and said "Hey, there's a major change coming in S55, just to give you a heads up". I dunno...would people midway through a plan, abandon it? I doubt it. I can only imagine it being an advantage to people who don't plan at all, and that's never a worthwhile advantage in the long run.

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Oud bericht #1833 geplaatst Okt 17 2016, 22:26:09 Quote 
It is easy to keep a driver, but if your car is shit what is the point?
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Oud bericht #1834 geplaatst Okt 17 2016, 22:29:40 Quote 
Quote ( Stuart McIntyre @ October 17th 2016,22:26:09 )

It is easy to keep a driver, but if your car is shit what is the point?


He has lower car than me. And i train the driver just bit over a season. Doesn't look to me that he trained him properly. Or he has lvl 2 parts?
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Oud bericht #1835 geplaatst Okt 18 2016, 20:49:43 Quote 
I don't experience the decrease about randoms....
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Oud bericht #1836 geplaatst Okt 18 2016, 20:50:38 Quote 
Quote ( Veres Tamás @ October 18th 2016,20:49:43 )

I don't experience the decrease about randoms....


There was no decrease in general randoms. Technical problems related to high CT were removed - so you haven't experienced one of them. Other randoms were not changed.
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Oud bericht #1837 geplaatst Okt 18 2016, 22:23:10 Quote 
Sure?
No tips?
Just asking.
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Oud bericht #1838 geplaatst Okt 19 2016, 01:32:33 Quote 
Quote ( Daneks Britāls @ October 17th 2016,20:53:52 )

You are selfish moron Roger :D


The DE is here to stay, deal with it Roger. (para de chorar...)
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Oud bericht #1839 geplaatst Okt 19 2016, 09:05:31 Quote 
Driver Energy runs out to fast I had 100% ran 90ct and he was dead for about 15 laps
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Oud bericht #1840 geplaatst Okt 19 2016, 10:39:27 Quote 
Quote ( Roger Bergman @ October 17th 2016,19:55:00 )

I like energy. With very good driver and good car, you can win using low CT.

Before DE, with CT 50 was possible win in pro. Now, i can win races with CT0 (achievement Just don't scratch it) and i can win much money (and pay much casual taxes in end of season). Before DE, this achievement was possible only in amateur. Now, its possible in PRO.

The problem of DE has not been announced with 1 or 2 seasons in advance.

I was lucky to have a very good driver, but who has weak driver and low car lvl was impaired, and therefore, is complaining of DE.

I suggest suspend DE, and establish a return in 2-3 seasons.

All managers can train driver, work in car lvl, to stay in a good position when DE return.



i can't believe
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Oud bericht #1841 geplaatst Okt 19 2016, 15:57:32 Quote 
Quote ( Roger Bergman @ October 17th 2016,19:55:00 )

I like energy. With very good driver and good car, you can win using low CT.


Roger, excuse me for asking these questions. Do you actually have the statistical analysis on this subject? Furthermore, can you prove this is actually true in Dry and Wet track conditions. If you can, I'd love to see the data.

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Oud bericht #1842 geplaatst Okt 19 2016, 16:04:05 Quote 
It's possible to win in amateur with 0ct risks more so now than before.
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Oud bericht #1843 geplaatst Okt 19 2016, 16:16:22 (laatst aangepast Okt 19 2016, 16:17:18 door MG van Rensburg) Quote 
Quote ( Brian Murphy @ October 19th 2016,15:57:32 )

Quote ( Roger Bergman @ October 17th 2016,19:55:00 )

I like energy. With very good driver and good car, you can win using low CT.


Roger, excuse me for asking these questions. Do you actually have the statistical analysis on this subject? Furthermore, can you prove this is actually true in Dry and Wet track conditions. If you can, I'd love to see the data.



What sort of statistical data would he need? If he's managing to do it himself, isn't that evidence enough?

I'm comfortably on track for possible promotion out of amatuer on pretty meagre risks and my driver isn't even that good tbh.

And as for pro. Have a team mate who's been really struggling to do poorly so as to kill driver moti to renew contract since the energy system kicked in. Running 0ct just isn't cutting it, and he just promoted from amateur.
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Oud bericht #1844 geplaatst Okt 19 2016, 17:05:51 Quote 
Quote ( David Jones-Winkley @ October 19th 2016,16:04:05 )


It's possible to win in amateur with 0ct risks more so now than before.


Yes David anything is possible, but the point I am making is how consistently "can" this occur. There is so many variables involved and it is too soon to actually know. That's why I asked those questions earlier. One offs is not adequate if you are a front runner looking to promote. Please don't get me wrong, I support the change for now.
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Oud bericht #1845 geplaatst Okt 19 2016, 17:08:31 Quote 
Quote ( MG van Rensburg @ October 19th 2016,16:16:22 )

What sort of statistical data would he need? If he's managing to do it himself, isn't that evidence enough?


To prove what he said is true, remember he did use the pronoun "you."
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Oud bericht #1846 geplaatst Okt 19 2016, 17:21:49 Quote 
Quote ( MG van Rensburg @ October 19th 2016,16:16:22 )

I'm comfortably on track for possible promotion out of amatuer on pretty meagre risks and my driver isn't even that good tbh.

Possibility: Your group could be weaker than some the others and of course other variables involved. Which brings up my original question without the data and experience you can't make those one off - claims Maybe that's what we should do, run a survey to see how many people Win using low CT and how many consistently. Of course I'm just joking, but wouldn't it be great to know the facts.
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Oud bericht #1847 geplaatst Okt 19 2016, 18:58:22 (laatst aangepast Okt 19 2016, 19:13:24 door Roger Bergman) Quote 
Quote ( Brian Murphy @ October 19th 2016,15:57:32 )

Quote ( Roger Bergman @ October 17th 2016,19:55:00 )

I like energy. With very good driver and good car, you can win using low CT.


Roger, excuse me for asking these questions. Do you actually have the statistical analysis on this subject? Furthermore, can you prove this is actually true in Dry and Wet track conditions. If you can, I'd love to see the data.



I have 2 wins (R6 and R9) and one second place with CT 0 (R10), in dry conditions. Race 6, i had a achiviement "Just don't scratch it" (CT 0 Win).

In Pro 5, Race 9, Egor Pasko wins using CT 0, too.

At least, 17 amateurs, wins with CT0 this season.

/gb/Stats.asp?type=achievers&aid=306

Before energy, maximun 4-5 managers per season were able to get this achievement.

You get this only one time. Many people, can have more than one win using CT 0 and it does not appear in the statistics.

Quote ( Nuno Martins @ October 19th 2016,01:32:33 )

The DE is here to stay, deal with it Roger. (para de chorar...)


To me, DE is good thing, but I understand why many people (with bad drivers/cars probably) complain of this change.

In Portuguese: Pra mim, energia é uma coisa boa. Mas eu entendo porque muitos (carro/piloto fracos) reclamam.
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Oud bericht #1848 geplaatst Okt 19 2016, 20:19:44 Quote 
Quote ( David Jones-Winkley @ October 19th 2016,16:04:05 )


It's possible to win in amateur with 0ct risks more so now than before.


who said this is a good thing?
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Oud bericht #1849 geplaatst Okt 19 2016, 20:45:46 Quote 
Its no different now than before. Then you could be competing against 100ct and your winning with 60ct now it's 40ct and winning 0ct.
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Oud bericht #1850 geplaatst Okt 19 2016, 21:02:48 Quote 
Quote ( Guilherme Di Franco @ October 19th 2016,20:19:44 )

who said this is a good thing?


It is good. Because wise managers now have better opportunities to collect more cash, build car and driver for upper levels. No need to waste all for car parts.

Before it was possible to only collect cash. And then only in amateur. Now gap between levels is shorter......A lot shorter for people who knows what to do with all this money.
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Oud bericht #1851 geplaatst Okt 19 2016, 21:05:25 Quote 
Quote ( Roger Bergman @ October 19th 2016,18:58:22 )

Quote ( Brian Murphy @ October 19th 2016,15:57:32 )

Quote ( Roger Bergman @ October 17th 2016,19:55:00 )

I like energy. With very good driver and good car, you can win using low CT.


Roger, excuse me for asking these questions. Do you actually have the statistical analysis on this subject? Furthermore, can you prove this is actually true in Dry and Wet track conditions. If you can, I'd love to see the data.



I have 2 wins (R6 and R9) and one second place with CT 0 (R10), in dry conditions. Race 6, i had a achiviement "Just don't scratch it" (CT 0 Win).

In Pro 5, Race 9, Egor Pasko wins using CT 0, too.

At least, 17 amateurs, wins with CT0 this season.

/gb/Stats.asp?type=achievers&aid=306

Before energy, maximun 4-5 managers per season were able to get this achievement.

You get this only one time. Many people, can have more than one win using CT 0 and it does not appear in the statistics.

Quote ( Nuno Martins @ October 19th 2016,01:32:33 )

The DE is here to stay, deal with it Roger. (para de chorar...)

To me, DE is good thing, but I understand why many people (with bad drivers/cars probably) complain of this change.

In Portuguese: Pra mim, energia é uma coisa boa. Mas eu entendo porque muitos (carro/piloto fracos) reclamam.


I wish I was in P6, winning with 0 CT in P25 is impossible!!
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Oud bericht #1852 geplaatst Okt 19 2016, 21:08:06 Quote 
Quote ( Andy Goodall @ October 19th 2016,21:05:25 )

I wish I was in P6, winning with 0 CT in P25 is impossible!!


BR sucks anyway :)
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Oud bericht #1853 geplaatst Okt 19 2016, 21:34:28 (laatst aangepast Okt 19 2016, 21:44:36 door Guilherme Di Franco) Quote 
Quote ( David Jones-Winkley @ October 19th 2016,20:45:46 )

Its no different now than before. Then you could be competing against 100ct and your winning with 60ct now it's 40ct and winning 0ct.


so this
Quote ( David Jones-Winkley @ October 19th 2016,16:04:05 )

It's possible to win in amateur with 0ct risks more so now than before.


isnt a benefit



Quote ( Daneks Britāls @ October 19th 2016,21:02:48 )

It is good. Because wise managers now have better opportunities to collect more cash, build car and driver for upper levels. No need to waste all for car parts.


I did not know they had changed the rule of race's prizes,
maybe my game is bugged because this didn't change for me

Quote ( Andy Goodall @ October 19th 2016,21:05:25 )

I wish I was in P6, winning with 0 CT in P25 is impossible!!


it's possible too, just start in front then just block everybody, since no one can overtake this season u prob will win the race :p



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Oud bericht #1854 geplaatst Okt 19 2016, 21:38:44 Quote 
Quote ( Andy Goodall @ October 19th 2016,21:05:25 )

I wish I was in P6, winning with 0 CT in P25 is impossible!!


That's one of my points. I am in a very smart and tough group of managers. I believe with want I have experienced that using 0CT wouldn't cut it in my group if I want to get ahead. So if I use less than xxCT, I get left behind. I understand what Roger is saying and it's true Driver and Car are very important of course, but CT is very important also.
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Oud bericht #1855 geplaatst Okt 19 2016, 21:43:43 Quote 
Quote ( Guilherme Di Franco @ October 19th 2016,21:34:28 )

it's possible too, just start in front then just block everybody, since no one can overtake this season u prob will win the race :p

I'll have to try this, if I ever get up front.
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Oud bericht #1856 geplaatst Okt 19 2016, 21:46:22 Quote 
Quote ( Brian Murphy @ October 19th 2016,21:38:44 )

but CT is very important also

u mean was :v
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Oud bericht #1857 geplaatst Okt 19 2016, 21:54:17 Quote 
Quote ( Guilherme Di Franco @ October 19th 2016,21:46:22 )

u mean was :v


Stand corrected. Your right.
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