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Тема: Sponsors - What is wrong? |
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#1 публикувано 29 Юли 2015 г. 15:17:41
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10 races, 10 wins, 7 pole positions, 8 fastest laps...
4 sponsors negotiations, 4 sponsors pull backs from negotiation !!!
Why? I answered question about next season goal - top4 position (2 times)/mid table possition(2 times)...
I have FL instead sponsors money, but I want sponsor too. What am I doing wrong?
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#2 публикувано 29 Юли 2015 г. 15:20:04
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Most important thing to consider when replying to questions is what the sponsor is expecting you to reply... then honesty can help you keep it... but not get it.
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#3 публикувано 29 Юли 2015 г. 15:30:28
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It is hard to believe, that sponsor wants to hear: "I want be loser..."
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#4 публикувано 29 Юли 2015 г. 15:32:03
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Michal, you are an experienced manager and former Master level, surely you know what's wrong.
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Quote ( Alin Costrasuc @ July 29th 2015,15:32:03 ) Michal, you are an experienced manager and former Master level, surely you know what's wrong.
I never had problem with sponsor negotation... I don't know what is wrong, really...
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#6 публикувано 29 Юли 2015 г. 15:41:01
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Quote ( Michal Semrad @ July 29th 2015,15:30:28 ) It is hard to believe, that sponsor wants to hear: "I want be loser..."
I'd rather say that he thinks "He's to good for me, I cannot afford him" :-)
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#7 публикувано 29 Юли 2015 г. 20:55:05
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Quote ( Tomek Kiełpiński @ July 29th 2015,15:41:01 ) Quote ( Michal Semrad @ July 29th 2015,15:30:28 )
It is hard to believe, that sponsor wants to hear: "I want be loser..."
I'd rather say that he thinks "He's to good for me, I cannot afford him" :-)
...which is the same thing. :)
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#8 публикувано 29 Юли 2015 г. 20:58:55
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Quote ( Michal Semrad @ July 29th 2015,15:17:41 ) 10 races, 10 wins, 7 pole positions, 8 fastest laps...
maybe try harder
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#9 публикувано 29 Юли 2015 г. 21:03:17
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Maybe cause too many deals same time, sponsors did get frustrated speed of negotiations.
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Quote ( Kristian Toikkanen @ July 29th 2015,21:03:17 ) Maybe cause too many deals same time, sponsors did get frustrated speed of negotiations.
no
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#11 публикувано 29 Юли 2015 г. 21:25:52
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Quote ( Tomek Kiełpiński @ July 29th 2015,15:41:01 ) Quote ( Michal Semrad @ July 29th 2015,15:30:28 )
It is hard to believe, that sponsor wants to hear: "I want be loser..."
I'd rather say that he thinks "He's to good for me, I cannot afford him" :-)
this is your answer
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#12 публикувано 29 Юли 2015 г. 23:59:07
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Quote ( Michal Semrad @ July 29th 2015,15:17:41 ) 10 races, 10 wins, 7 pole positions, 8 fastest laps...
4 sponsors negotiations, 4 sponsors pull backs from negotiation !!!
Why? I answered question about next season goal - top4 position (2 times)/mid table possition(2 times)...
I have FL instead sponsors money, but I want sponsor too. What am I doing wrong?
Did they pullout or sign another manager?
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#13 публикувано 30 Юли 2015 г. 00:00:55
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Quote ( Kristian Toikkanen @ July 29th 2015,21:03:17 ) Maybe cause too many deals same time, sponsors did get frustrated speed of negotiations.
Not enough deals at the same time. ;)
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Quote ( Shane Ferguson @ July 29th 2015,23:59:07 ) Did they pullout or sign another manager?
No other manager was negotiating with my sponsor... pull out, without bye :-)
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#15 публикувано 30 Юли 2015 г. 08:23:04
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Quote ( Kristian Toikkanen @ July 29th 2015,21:03:17 ) Maybe cause too many deals same time, sponsors did get frustrated speed of negotiations.
I have only one negotiation in same time...
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Can i really throw the cat amongst the pigeons here?!
I have been playing this game for a while now and read all these forum topics but i very seldom get involved except for a chirp here or there. My reasons are exactly for what is going on in this thread.
What is the point of raising a topic for advise if no one can actually help you?
and what is the point in replying by skirting around the bush knowing you cant help the guy who has a question in the first place?
Honestly i really think it is just a waste of everyones time unless you honestly have nothing better to do to occupy your day or evening!
every time i read something its the same people giving "non advise" and sometimes you even argue about it.
I MEAN REALLY?
The scary thing is in that in 2 days time there will be 5 pages of people, mostly the same people just rambling on not helping the guy.
It is the biggest issue i have with this game, honestly just help the guy out! its not going to drastically improve his game to the point where it knocks you down a tier or 2.
From an outside perspective its actually just silly and a waste of everyones time.
If you cant or wont be able to give the guy advice then just leave it and dont bother replying....
Ok i realise i shall ruffle a few feathers with this, but its always the same over and over.
people asking for advice, then 5 pages of non advise by hundreds of people over and over and the guy is actually no better off than before!
So what is the point?
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#17 публикувано 30 Юли 2015 г. 08:56:49
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You didn't answer his question either. :|
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Michal - a lot of people have problems with sponsors, actually no one know how to find the right way to get it for next season goals. Sorry bro, I cannot help.
Edit - I looking into your team - you have got amateur and pro teammates. Have they problems too ?
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#19 публикувано 30 Юли 2015 г. 09:05:10
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Quote ( Michal Semrad @ July 29th 2015,15:30:28 ) It is hard to believe, that sponsor wants to hear: "I want be loser..."
If the sponsor expectations are 1 bar then they want you to tell them that is what expect to achieve. Your answers just need to matchtheir expectations. Nothing out of the ordinary.
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It Shouldn't even take much to realise that your results now have nothing to do with your negotiations, except insofar as the speed of negotiations. They want to know how you'll do once they have an active contract with you.
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#21 публикувано 30 Юли 2015 г. 09:33:56 (редактирано 30 Юли 2015 г. 09:34:20 от Egon Blissi)
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#22 публикувано 30 Юли 2015 г. 12:02:28
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Quote ( Michael Winkley @ July 30th 2015,09:10:01 )
It Shouldn't even take much to realise that your results now have nothing to do with your negotiations, except insofar as the speed of negotiations. They want to know how you'll do once they have an active contract with yo
Spot on - take a careful look at the bars in each area and match your answers... simple as that mate... dont always go for the most finances... nor negotiation speed albeit tempting...
had a great deal recently 28 races at $1.2M per race, coupled with my other 2 sponsors (they have since finished with me... would like to have renegotiated) very happy!
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#23 публикувано 30 Юли 2015 г. 12:23:50
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Quote ( Stephen Cakebread @ July 30th 2015,08:46:36 ) What is the point of raising a topic for advise if no one can actually help you?
and what is the point in replying by skirting around the bush knowing you cant help the guy who has a question in the first place?
Honestly i really think it is just a waste of everyones time unless you honestly have nothing better to do to occupy your day or evening!
every time i read something its the same people giving "non advise" and sometimes you even argue about it.
I MEAN REALLY?
The scary thing is in that in 2 days time there will be 5 pages of people, mostly the same people just rambling on not helping the guy.
It is the biggest issue i have with this game, honestly just help the guy out! its not going to drastically improve his game to the point where it knocks you down a tier or 2.
From an outside perspective its actually just silly and a waste of everyones time.
If you cant or wont be able to give the guy advice then just leave it and dont bother replying....
Ok i realise i shall ruffle a few feathers with this, but its always the same over and over.
people asking for advice, then 5 pages of non advise by hundreds of people over and over and the guy is actually no better off than before!
So what is the point?
He is completly right!
Some kind of data should be sheared, maybe not all but at least so the person knows more in the end then less.
The game is to much about having data that others don't have then how to use the data.
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#24 публикувано 30 Юли 2015 г. 13:22:23
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Pretty surprised that no one has mentioned trying to negotiate with sponsors who's expectations match what you will be trying to achieve for the relevant season. That way your results should provide what they are looking for anyway.
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#25 публикувано 30 Юли 2015 г. 19:36:58
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If the sponsor abandons you during the negotiations and it wasn't because someone else signed them then it is because they didn't like the answer to the question that they just asked you. Look at what the question was, what the answer you gave was, and the sponsor attributes and see if you can't figure out if there was a better answer to give. It's not difficult, at least not that part of it.
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#26 публикувано 30 Юли 2015 г. 19:38:46
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Quote ( Stijn Everaerts @ July 30th 2015,12:23:50 ) Some kind of data should be sheared
Winkley is Welsh he should know about this
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#27 публикувано 30 Юли 2015 г. 19:43:53
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Quote ( Stijn Everaerts @ July 30th 2015,12:23:50 ) He is completly right!
Some kind of data should be sheared, maybe not all but at least so the person knows more in the end then less.
The game is to much about having data that others don't have then how to use the data.
I just did almost 4 entire seasons in ammy with no sponsors as was trying lots of things out with lots of sponsors & recording all the stats / results / progressions to get a better handle on things. It's been tough & has taken a lot of effort.
You can eat shit & die if you think that sponsor data should be shared so that people who can't be assed get the same data as people who can be assed to work things out.
apart from that I think you're ok...
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#28 публикувано 30 Юли 2015 г. 19:50:10
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Quote ( Phil Maunder @ July 30th 2015,19:43:53 ) You can eat shit & die if you think that sponsor data should be shared so that people who can't be assed get the same data as people who can be assed to work things out.
i agree... especially when.
Quote ( Alin Costrasuc @ July 29th 2015,15:32:03 ) Michal, you are an experienced manager and former Master level, surely you know what's wrong.
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#29 публикувано 30 Юли 2015 г. 19:56:37
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Quote ( Stephen Cakebread @ July 30th 2015,08:46:36 ) Can i really throw the cat amongst the pigeons here?!
I have been playing this game for a while now and read all these forum topics but i very seldom get involved except for a chirp here or there. My reasons are exactly for what is going on in this thread.
What is the point of raising a topic for advise if no one can actually help you?
and what is the point in replying by skirting around the bush knowing you cant help the guy who has a question in the first place?
Honestly i really think it is just a waste of everyones time unless you honestly have nothing better to do to occupy your day or evening!
every time i read something its the same people giving "non advise" and sometimes you even argue about it.
I MEAN REALLY?
The scary thing is in that in 2 days time there will be 5 pages of people, mostly the same people just rambling on not helping the guy.
It is the biggest issue i have with this game, honestly just help the guy out! its not going to drastically improve his game to the point where it knocks you down a tier or 2.
From an outside perspective its actually just silly and a waste of everyones time.
If you cant or wont be able to give the guy advice then just leave it and dont bother replying....
Ok i realise i shall ruffle a few feathers with this, but its always the same over and over.
people asking for advice, then 5 pages of non advise by hundreds of people over and over and the guy is actually no better off than before!
So what is the point?
And where exactly is your answer or advice to the OP in this rant? Or should you have followed this advice?
Quote ( Stijn Everaerts @ July 30th 2015,12:23:50 ) If you cant or wont be able to give the guy advice then just leave it and dont bother replying....
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#30 публикувано 30 Юли 2015 г. 20:32:41
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Quote ( Kevin Mcferrin @ July 30th 2015,19:36:58 ) If the sponsor abandons you during the negotiations and it wasn't because someone else signed them then it is because they didn't like the answer to the question that they just asked you.
Look how professional Kevin looks! Dress like him, in a business costume and sponsors will love you! Don't expect to go in trunks and flip-flops and them signing with you.
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