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Старо мнение #1290 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 11:33:55 Цитат 
On top of the fact he just had a 5 race ban, he could still do anything else (not sure about testing)

Quote ( Daneks Britāls @ March 30th 2016,10:45:58 )

Fix the reason not outcome.


How, by banning Russia from the game? :P That's not fair and not possible. How do you want to prevent DA's?
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Старо мнение #1291 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 11:35:19 Цитат 
Yeah I realised and edited before you posted. I was actually tipped off by an admin it was a bloke, with some evidence (Can't name the admin lol)
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Старо мнение #1292 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 11:36:49 Цитат 
Quote ( Jimmy De Roy @ March 30th 2016,11:30:38 )

Seems like your memory doesn't serve you well, you were 3 latvians, 2 americans, 2 spanish people and 3 other countries at that time.


Yes maybe, i don't remember that precise. But now we are talking about 30 people from one country, one language, both caught accounts in one team and other team members defending the caught one.

If you don't see the difference then sorry.
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Старо мнение #1293 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 11:38:45 Цитат 
Quote ( Keri Lovell @ March 30th 2016,11:35:19 )

Yeah I realised and edited before you posted. I was actually tipped off by an admin it was a bloke, with some evidence (Can't name the admin lol)


I guess we both were tipped off by the same one alas for us (as whiskey) she/he already left us by that time. :D

Afterwards she/he wrote me a pm to tell me that she/he was closing the sara account and would continue with the other one dunno if he is still in the game
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Старо мнение #1294 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 11:39:03 (редактирано 30 Мар 2016 г. 11:41:50 от Daneks Britāls) Цитат 
Quote ( Kevin Buis @ March 30th 2016,11:33:55 )

How, by banning Russia from the game?


From where you got this name starting with R again?

Quote ( Kevin Buis @ March 30th 2016,11:33:55 )

That's not fair and not possible.


Well.....North Korea is banned, no? :D To be precize, they banned themselves :D Just saying.

But if you want my oppinion not just a joke then here it is - IAAF.
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Старо мнение #1295 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 11:40:13 Цитат 
Quote ( Kevin Buis @ March 30th 2016,11:33:55 )

How, by banning Russia from the game?


Sanctions?
The European Union - a puppet Barack Obama!)
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Старо мнение #1296 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 11:40:37 (редактирано 30 Мар 2016 г. 11:40:50 от Keri Lovell) Цитат 
Although a slight difference, we still have the same outcome, cheating.

We also still have the same dilemma, what to do about it when caught. (I can assure you it will never stop completely)

But the fact remains admin make the decision and a 5 race ban, to me, is a very lenient one and will cause a lot of problems with the community. There was a post about the forums being all negative, shit like this won't help that one bit.
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Старо мнение #1297 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 11:41:34 Цитат 
Quote ( Keri Lovell @ March 30th 2016,10:50:02 )

The main reason people don't is that they do not want to face the wall of shame if they get caught.


I would say and hope that the main reason would be that "people" are not interested in cheating A, because it is wrong B, because it devalues any achievements.

Maybe people that are considering the consequences are already lost? :P
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Старо мнение #1298 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 11:42:40 Цитат 
In all fairness you will always have cheaters no matter what game you play online.

Even if you do like in hattrick and give people the opportunity of having 2 accounts (someone suggested this before), for some even this won't be enough and they will want a 3rd-4th etc.
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Старо мнение #1299 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 11:43:24 Цитат 
Quote ( Keri Lovell @ March 30th 2016,11:40:37 )

But the fact remains admin make the decision and a 5 race ban, to me, is a very lenient one and will cause a lot of problems with the community. There was a post about the forums being all negative, shit like this won't help that one bit.


While in case with Centellas admins decision was much more harsh.
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Старо мнение #1300 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 11:43:58 Цитат 
Quote ( Daneks Britāls @ March 30th 2016,11:39:03 )

Well.....North Korea is banned, no? :D To be precize, they banned themselves :D Just saying.


Don't think any of us have a line to Putin to cut off Russian access to GPRO :P

But how would you solve the problem? Ban all members in the team?
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Старо мнение #1301 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 11:44:03 (редактирано 30 Мар 2016 г. 11:44:20 от Keri Lovell) Цитат 
Quote ( James Berriman @ March 30th 2016,11:41:34 )

I would say and hope that the main reason would be that "people" are not interested in cheating A, because it is wrong B, because it devalues any achievements.


Exactly my point. And for those that don't care, there needs to be a penalty.
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Старо мнение #1302 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 11:47:19 Цитат 
Quote ( Ivan Bahinov @ March 30th 2016,11:40:13 )

Sanctions?


You call this sancions? lol

Quote ( Kevin Buis @ March 30th 2016,11:43:58 )

But how would you solve the problem? Ban all members in the team?


Multiple teams is disallowed. Caught - banned. In case with multiple teams i would act much more harsh than with just random sole cheater (in this case 5 race ban indeed can be enough).
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Старо мнение #1303 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 11:52:23 Цитат 
Quote ( Daneks Britāls @ March 30th 2016,11:36:49 )

Quote ( Jimmy De Roy @ March 30th 2016,11:30:38 )

Seems like your memory doesn't serve you well, you were 3 latvians, 2 americans, 2 spanish people and 3 other countries at that time.


Yes maybe, i don't remember that precise. But now we are talking about 30 people from one country, one language, both caught accounts in one team and other team members defending the caught one.

If you don't see the difference then sorry.


And these 30 people from Russia. Latvians have always hated Russian. This is racism.
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Старо мнение #1304 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 11:54:48 (редактирано 30 Мар 2016 г. 11:55:10 от Andrey Baydin) Цитат 
Quote ( Kevin Buis @ March 30th 2016,11:43:58 )

Don't think any of us have a line to Putin to cut off Russian access to GPRO :P
Quote ( Ivan Bahinov @ March 30th 2016,11:43:58 )

And these 30 people from Russia. Latvians have always hated Russian. This is racism.

I think these two are a perfect pair.
What we should do is make a forum for political and racist bullshit and then those who post there lose access to the main forum. Bang, problem solved, to each his own.



As for the 5 race ban - it is a joke. I cant believe it.
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Старо мнение #1305 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 11:55:27 Цитат 
Quote ( Ivan Bahinov @ March 30th 2016,11:52:23 )

This is racism.


Read more books. Then you will find what this word means.
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Старо мнение #1306 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 11:58:14 Цитат 
Quote ( Ivan Bahinov @ March 30th 2016,11:52:23 )

And these 30 people from Russia. Latvians have always hated Russian. This is racism.


Ivan i think this works both ways for some people but i also think getting into politics is not something we should have in this topic.
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Старо мнение #1307 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 11:59:50 Цитат 
Quote ( Daneks Britāls @ March 30th 2016,11:55:27 )

Quote ( Ivan Bahinov @ March 30th 2016,11:52:23 )

This is racism.

Read more books. Then you will find what this word means.


see you have a lot of books on this theme read. I wonder what the authors?)
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Старо мнение #1308 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 12:01:38 (редактирано 30 Мар 2016 г. 12:05:11 от Victor Kamennov) Цитат 
Quote ( Ivan Bahinov @ March 30th 2016,11:52:23 )

Quote ( Daneks Britāls @ March 30th 2016,11:36:49 )

Quote ( Jimmy De Roy @ March 30th 2016,11:30:38 )

Seems like your memory doesn't serve you well, you were 3 latvians, 2 americans, 2 spanish people and 3 other countries at that time.


Yes maybe, i don't remember that precise. But now we are talking about 30 people from one country, one language, both caught accounts in one team and other team members defending the caught one.

If you don't see the difference then sorry.

And these 30 people from Russia. Latvians have always hated Russian. This is racism.

Perhaps for these reasons someone has developed an inferiority complex
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Старо мнение #1309 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 12:05:14 Цитат 
Quote ( Jimmy De Roy @ March 30th 2016,11:58:14 )

Ivan i think this works both ways for some people but i also think getting into politics is not something we should have in this topic.


Sorry, Jimmy. You're right.
DA can be from any country. I just wanted to show how stupid name all Russian DA.
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Старо мнение #1310 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 12:10:12 Цитат 
Look how many lawyers certain cheaters got. I don't remember poor Centellas got any when he was banned and not only reseted but also kicked out of the site for some time.

And all what lawyers can is point of of country and call opponent racist :D While i don't remember pointing on any country but on multiple teams as such. Good luck dear lawyers, you are poor :D
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Старо мнение #1311 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 12:22:51 Цитат 
Quote ( Daneks Britāls @ March 30th 2016,12:10:12 )

And all what lawyers can is point of of country and call opponent racist :D


Can you blame them? You are the naming all russians to be cheaters. Believe me if you would say all belgian players are cheaters i would do the same thing as Viktor and Ivan.

This is the last thing i say on the subject as this is going off topic.
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Старо мнение #1312 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 12:24:20 Цитат 
Рi Laila, I think the fake names need to reset the account. What do you think?
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Старо мнение #1313 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 12:30:28 Цитат 
Quote ( Andrey Baydin @ March 30th 2016,11:54:48 )

I think these two are a perfect pair.
What we should do is make a forum for political and racist bullshit and then those who post there lose access to the main forum. Bang, problem solved, to each his own.


Selective reading. 1 post earlier I made this statement;

Quote ( Kevin Buis @ March 30th 2016,11:33:55 )

How, by banning Russia from the game? :P That's not fair and not possible.


But hey, if you choose to hate me for my personal view, be my guest.
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Старо мнение #1314 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 12:32:35 Цитат 
Quote ( Jimmy De Roy @ March 30th 2016,12:22:51 )

Quote ( Daneks Britāls @ March 30th 2016,12:10:12 )

And all what lawyers can is point of of country and call opponent racist :D

Can you blame them? You are the naming all russians to be cheaters. Believe me if you would say all belgian players are cheaters i would do the same thing as Viktor and Ivan.

This is the last thing i say on the subject as this is going off topic.


Respect to my dear friend )))
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Старо мнение #1315 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 12:37:55 Цитат 
Quote ( Konstantin Sobolev @ March 30th 2016,12:24:20 )

Рi Laila, I think the fake names need to reset the account. What do you think?
IMHO it's more than certain that Daneks should have his account reseted once it was proven (or he confessed - I don't really remember) he's another person that he claimed to be. I can't really see any good reason why it was decided otherwise, as he still benefits from other person work
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Старо мнение #1316 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 12:40:35 Цитат 
So you have 2 accounts .

Get found out .

Lose 1 account.

Main account misses 5 races .

Well its not April 1st already is it ?

Seems that keeping players is more important than anything else.
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Старо мнение #1317 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 12:46:56 Цитат 
Quote ( Kevin Buis @ March 30th 2016,12:30:28 )

But hey, if you choose to hate me for my personal view, be my guest.
how does it work with that comment about Eastern Europe from two days ago? Does this one qualifiy as disrespectful towards other countries or you had something else in mind?
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Старо мнение #1318 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 12:49:23 Цитат 
Kuba - after your disgusting comment about people with Downs Syndrome a couple of days ago, you have ZERO right to try and take any moral high ground yourself.....
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Старо мнение #1319 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 12:50:28 Цитат 
Quote ( Kuba Szajbel @ March 30th 2016,12:46:56 )

how does it work with that comment about Eastern Europe from two days ago? Does this one qualifiy as disrespectful towards other countries or you had something else in mind?


You sound butthurt, need a cushion?
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