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Старо мнение #1320 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 12:51:50 Цитат 
If you guys want a catfight create a catfight topic and do it there, keep this topic for what it is opened for please.
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Старо мнение #1321 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 12:58:37 (редактирано 30 Мар 2016 г. 12:59:16 от Kevin Parkinson) Цитат 
Quote ( Jimmy De Roy @ March 30th 2016,12:51:50 )

If you guys want a catfight create a catfight topic and do it there go elsewhere
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Старо мнение #1322 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 13:01:05 (редактирано 30 Мар 2016 г. 13:03:31 от Kevin Parkinson) Цитат 
Quote ( Jimmy De Roy @ March 30th 2016,12:51:50 )

If you guys want a catfight create a catfight topic and do it there, keep this topic for what it is opened for please.
Let me just defend myself

***poof***

That would be a no. Stop it, everyone.
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Старо мнение #1323 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 13:09:20 (редактирано 30 Мар 2016 г. 13:09:33 от Kevin Buis) Цитат 
nvm, not allowed :P
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Старо мнение #1324 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 13:11:30 Цитат 
5 races kind of devalues the game. Season 54 this da will be in elite. Season 56-57 he could be on his way to becoming elite champ of this game.
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Старо мнение #1325 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 13:14:28 (редактирано 30 Мар 2016 г. 13:15:29 от Jimmy De Roy) Цитат 
Quote ( David Jones-Winkley @ March 30th 2016,13:11:30 )

5 races kind of devalues the game. Season 54 this da will be in elite. Season 56-57 he could be on his way to becoming elite champ of this game.


5 races is little, but even with a reset, he could win his rookie group. season 54-55 promote in amateur. 56-57 promote in pro -58-59 in master and compete for championship in 60
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Старо мнение #1326 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 13:15:21 Цитат 
Not likely competing in 1st season of elite
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Старо мнение #1327 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 13:20:25 Цитат 
I would have thought it would be nice to hear from Admins on why the punishment was so little that they might as well just let him continue as though nothing happened.

I wish I hadnt thrown my old laptop away 3 weeks ago ,I"m sure my wife would enjoy this game especially when paypal account is in her name.
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Старо мнение #1328 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 13:26:37 Цитат 
Quote ( Michael Jones @ March 30th 2016,13:20:25 )

I would have thought it would be nice to hear from Admins on why the punishment was so little that they might as well just let him continue as though nothing happened.

I wish I hadnt thrown my old laptop away 3 weeks ago ,I"m sure my wife would enjoy this game especially when paypal account is in her name.


And who against? Good luck to your wife
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Старо мнение #1329 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 13:27:22 Цитат 
The more players, the it is more interesting to play
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Старо мнение #1330 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 13:32:18 Цитат 
Quote ( Igor Pererva @ March 30th 2016,13:27:22 )

The more players, the it is more interesting to play

This comment wins the DA argument I reckon.
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Старо мнение #1331 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 13:35:38 Цитат 
Shocking responses from Midland, not even an ounce of remorse.
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Старо мнение #1332 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 13:38:10 Цитат 
Quote ( Robin Goodey @ March 30th 2016,12:49:23 )

Kuba - after your disgusting comment about people with Downs Syndrome a couple of days ago, you have ZERO right to try and take any moral high ground yourself.....


He didn't do that at all! He was having banter with Keeney, not directly insulting downs syndrome people.
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Старо мнение #1333 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 13:50:04 (редактирано 30 Мар 2016 г. 13:51:23 от Jimmy De Roy) Цитат 
Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ March 30th 2016,12:58:37 )

Quote ( Jimmy De Roy @ March 30th 2016,12:51:50 )If you guys want a catfight create a catfight topic and do it there go elsewhere


On topic, I think you guys would be shocked if you would know how many DA's there are and who runs them. This said no, i don't have a clue myself, merely pointing out that there is probably shitloads who haven't even been caught yet. It is a disease for which the cure hasn't been found yet, no matter how hard admins try to sort them out.
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Старо мнение #1334 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 13:55:03 Цитат 
I ask to be responsible everyone for myself, it is impossible to draw a conclusion about all, about team, about the country
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Старо мнение #1335 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 13:57:47 Цитат 
Quote ( Jimmy De Roy @ March 30th 2016,13:50:04 )

It is a disease for which the cure hasn't been found yet, no matter how hard admins try to sort them out.


The punishment doesn't really help preventing DA's, does it? It doesn't really look like the admins try it THAT hard to sort them out.
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Старо мнение #1336 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 14:11:30 Цитат 
Quote ( Kevin Buis @ March 30th 2016,13:57:47 )

The punishment doesn't really help preventing DA's, does it? It doesn't really look like the admins try it THAT hard to sort them out.


So if you were admin what would be your punishment?
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Старо мнение #1337 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 14:14:14 Цитат 
Quote ( Jimmy De Roy @ March 30th 2016,14:11:30 )

So if you were admin what would be your punishment?

simple to close accounts which they consider suspicious. Also it is necessary to think over what arguments are necessary for saving the account
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Старо мнение #1338 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 14:15:30 Цитат 
Quote ( Igor Pererva @ March 30th 2016,14:14:14 )

simple to close accounts which they consider suspicious. Also it is necessary to think over what arguments are necessary for saving the account


So just kick the player from the game?
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Старо мнение #1339 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 14:15:42 (редактирано 30 Мар 2016 г. 14:16:38 от Stanislav Frolov) Цитат 
Brake!
Let's stop the mutual insults. It's just a game, don't forget about it. I think that many will be ashamed written above - it relates to any.

Good luck to everyone :)

P.S. Sorry for my English
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Старо мнение #1340 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 14:16:41 Цитат 
Quote ( Jimmy De Roy @ March 30th 2016,14:11:30 )

So if you were admin what would be your punishment?


You'll never prevent it, but a 5 race ban isn't really scaring people.. is it?

I'd AT LEAST rookie reset the "main" account, close the second account and possibly have additional punishment in terms of half the regular income for 3 seasons or so. You'd need to feel a punishment, not piss your pants from laughing and play on when you're done with that.
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Старо мнение #1341 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 14:21:00 (редактирано 30 Мар 2016 г. 14:23:46 от Jimmy De Roy) Цитат 
Quote ( Stanislav Frolov @ March 30th 2016,14:15:42 )

Brake!Let's stop the mutual insults. It's just a game, don't forget about it. I think that many will be ashamed written above - it relates to any.Good luck to everyone :)P.S. Sorry for my English


Your english is ok ;)

At least i tried to calm things down this time, weird feeling :P

Quote ( Kevin Buis @ March 30th 2016,14:16:41 )

You'll never prevent it, but a 5 race ban isn't really scaring people.. is it?


It seems like it.

Quote ( Kevin Buis @ March 30th 2016,14:16:41 )

I'd AT LEAST rookie reset the "main" account, close the second account and possibly have additional punishment in terms of half the regular income for 3 seasons or so. You'd need to feel a punishment, not piss your pants from laughing and play on when you're done with that.


Even when you reset the account to rookie, they would still have all the data they gathered while using that DA Unless they would have been some stupid not to save the data elsewhere.

And unless you put them all together in one rookie group it would be harsh on the newbie players to have a punished DA (with loads of data) in their group
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Старо мнение #1342 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 14:23:13 Цитат 
Quote ( Jimmy De Roy @ March 30th 2016,14:21:00 )

Even when you reset the account to rookie, they would still have all the data they gathered while using that DA Unless they would have been some stupid not to save the data elsewhere.


So, because the damage is already done they don't need to be punished harshly?
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Старо мнение #1343 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 14:25:15 Цитат 
Quote ( Kevin Buis @ March 30th 2016,14:23:13 )

So, because the damage is already done they don't need to be punished harshly?


I am not saying they should not be punished but read what i edited. I would even consider putting people who reset their accounts themselves in the same group as i believe it is not funny for a newbie to be in a group with people with data.
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Старо мнение #1344 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 14:29:15 Цитат 
Quote ( Jimmy De Roy @ March 30th 2016,14:21:00 )

At least i tried to calm things down this time, weird feeling :P


Yes, I see, thanks Jimmy :)
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Старо мнение #1345 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 14:29:29 Цитат 
Quote ( Jimmy De Roy @ March 30th 2016,14:25:15 )

I am not saying they should not be punished but read what i edited. I would even consider putting people who reset their accounts themselves in the same group as i believe it is not funny for a newbie to be in a group with people with data.


There is never the perfect solution. And yes, people who reset (or are resetted) shouldn't be placed with new players.. but that's a different suggestion (I think it's been suggested quite a few times already)
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Старо мнение #1346 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 14:34:02 (редактирано 30 Мар 2016 г. 14:34:33 от Stanislav Frolov) Цитат 
Quote ( Jimmy De Roy @ March 30th 2016,14:21:00 )

Even when you reset the account to rookie, they would still have all the data they gathered while using that DA Unless they would have been some stupid not to save the data elsewhere.

And unless you put them all together in one rookie group it would be harsh on the newbie players to have a punished DA (with loads of data) in their group


Managers with DA not searching for information - they were just having fun.
I'm not advocate anyone, but trust me - it's true.
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Старо мнение #1347 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 14:34:27 Цитат 
Quote ( Kevin Buis @ March 30th 2016,14:29:29 )

There is never the perfect solution. And yes, people who reset (or are resetted) shouldn't be placed with new players.. but that's a different suggestion (I think it's been suggested quite a few times already)


Well that is exactly the point i try to make.

5 races ban -> definetly not enough.
kick them out of the game -> income loss for the the game.
reset their account -> harsh on newbies.

This said the ones caught are mostlikely the stupid ones or the ones who slipped up, as there are possibly plenty left who are clever enough not to get caught

Quote ( Stanislav Frolov @ March 30th 2016,14:29:15 )

Yes, I see, thanks Jimmy :)


You're welcome, i have my good moments but they don't last long :P
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Старо мнение #1348 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 14:43:05 Цитат 
Quote ( Keri Lovell @ March 30th 2016,10:41:16 )

Quote ( Daneks Britāls @ March 30th 2016,10:38:50 )

Punishments will not fix the problem.

Completely disagree with that. If you know your account will be completely reset, years of work down the drain you will definitely be less likely to cheat.

Permanent bans just result in the cheating going underground for a while. The punishment has got to somehow involve making the cheats not want to play at all. We need them to quit by choice.
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Старо мнение #1349 публикувано 30 Мар 2016 г. 14:48:56 Цитат 
Quote ( Stanislav Frolov @ March 30th 2016,14:34:02 )

Managers with DA not searching for information - they were just having fun.


Ah that's ok then, let's all get one.

5 race ban and main account completely intact doesn't seem too harsh, considering it was just a bit of fun :-)
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