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Старо мнение #121 публикувано 17 Юни 2017 г. 16:59:07 Цитат 
Stefan has caved in that didn't take long. Should have changed it to spa.
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Старо мнение #122 публикувано 17 Юни 2017 г. 17:05:23 Цитат 
Quote ( David Jones-Winkley @ June 17th 2017,16:59:07 )

Should have changed it to spa.
+Sauna.
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Старо мнение #123 публикувано 17 Юни 2017 г. 17:22:43 Цитат 
How did Stefan cave in? he made a mistake and corrected it, thank heavens for that
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Старо мнение #124 публикувано 17 Юни 2017 г. 18:18:42 Цитат 
Quote ( Tibor Szuromi @ June 17th 2017,16:45:49 )

Andrei!

Test track no lotto. Stefan decision.


Are you absolutely sure about that? :)
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Старо мнение #125 публикувано 18 Юни 2017 г. 00:16:25 Цитат 
How many people did it take to cry and whine about the test track to get it changed? Bunch of frickin pansies...
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Старо мнение #126 публикувано 18 Юни 2017 г. 02:04:31 Цитат 
Quote ( Stefan Voggenreither @ June 17th 2017,13:24:25 )

Hmmm... sounds revolutionary. But it is just an admin admitting a small mistake... sorry ;-)


Thank´s for after all this time you are still the same :)
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Старо мнение #127 публикувано 18 Юни 2017 г. 08:12:35 (редактирано 18 Юни 2017 г. 08:14:43 от Ioannis Kalogirou) Цитат 
Season 60
Expensive (scale IBK) = 33,4
testing Track Serres = 1,4

..1....2....3.....4....5....6.....7.....8....9....10...11...12...13...14...15...16...17
3,8+1,4+0,0+2,2+2,5+0,8+2,2+2,4+2,7+0,6+2,5+1,7+3,5+1,5+1,4+2,3+1,8=33,4

- If go out Races 1 & 13 ...It's Very Very Cheep Season.!!!
...and meybe the 1,4 of Serres look big but is Not so Expensive (Serres have 80 Laps).!!!

- Good Sunday from Beautiful Sithonia/Chalkidiki/Greece.!!!
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Старо мнение #128 публикувано 18 Юни 2017 г. 14:11:39 Цитат 
When can we race at Bathurst???
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Старо мнение #129 публикувано 18 Юни 2017 г. 14:43:19 Цитат 
Quote ( Gary Greenwood @ June 18th 2017,14:11:39 )

When can we race at Bathurst???

Oh if only!
6.2 km lap, (so about a 50 lap race)
1.9 km straight and 1.1 km straight
23 corners
high speed and low speed sections
elevation change 174 metres

Stuff that a GPRO dream track is made of :)
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Старо мнение #130 публикувано 18 Юни 2017 г. 18:55:03 Цитат 
I wonder Stefan why you really changed the test track, I haven't seen that clearly from any of your earlier statements? I know a lot of managers are whining about an expensive test track, but really, that's the same for all of us.

I thought this game was about best managing your complete package (including the testing and cash) no matter what the conditions are. I just hope this isn't a step towards simplifying the game, and removing complexity just because some managers cry out here.
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Старо мнение #131 публикувано 18 Юни 2017 г. 22:43:23 (редактирано 18 Юни 2017 г. 22:43:53 от Jeff Pumphrey) Цитат 
The tradeoff for a cheaper test track is that all 17 races will have 50% rain probability for all 4 sessions.
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Старо мнение #132 публикувано 19 Юни 2017 г. 00:05:33 Цитат 
Quote ( Klas Britse @ June 18th 2017,18:55:03 )

I wonder Stefan why you really changed the test track, I haven't seen that clearly from any of your earlier statements? I know a lot of managers are whining about an expensive test track, but really, that's the same for all of us.

I thought this game was about best managing your complete package (including the testing and cash) no matter what the conditions are. I just hope this isn't a step towards simplifying the game, and removing complexity just because some managers cry out here.


I don't see any steps towards anything. For umpteen seasons the test track has been selected from rather cheap tracks, so if anything, Bremgarten would have been a step towards something. I have nothing against moving testing towards a bit more expensive tracks, but after a long history of cheap test tracks people have learned to plan their seasons around a cheap test track. Having them vary more would add variation and unpredictability, but might also put people at different stages of their plans at different positions. Though I'd rather have that than race ending randoms. And as said, I wouldn't mind if the top 10 cheapest tracks were taken their test track gradings away.
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Старо мнение #133 публикувано 19 Юни 2017 г. 00:34:56 Цитат 
If I calculated right, GPRO has now 60 tracks. Why not have shortest (or cheapest) part of tracks as a possibility to be a test track? Like 40 cheapest tracks as of now? Perhaps even announce it? Then managers could plan by it, Hoping for the best or worst. Or it could be 60% of most expensive tracks? If there would be some range where managers planning there future could trust in future, I think it would help. Test track going from 0 -> 100 doesn't help many. Personally I don't care, but some may.

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Старо мнение #134 публикувано 19 Юни 2017 г. 06:00:48 (редактирано 19 Юни 2017 г. 06:12:56 от Ioannis Kalogirou) Цитат 
- This Theme must solve Ones for Ever.!!!
...the Extra Points Character must produce from the Total Testing Kilometers.!!!
...Not the testing Laps.!!! ...one Track has 3,0 Kilometers other 5,0 other 7,0.!!! ...So this Method is Mathematically Unorthodox.!!!
- If the GPRO do that, We Can Use Any Track to Testing.!!! ...even with one Lap of 305 Km.-
...so Simple.-

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Старо мнение #135 публикувано 19 Юни 2017 г. 07:24:26 Цитат 
I don´t see where were the problem with Bremgarten. If it is too expensive than make 50 laps testing and not 100. It is important that the testing points are distributed on kilometers and not on number of laps. On the other side if it´s expensive, it´s expensive for everyone.
Another idea is to make an home track for every manager parallel to the test track, so everyone can choose if he wants to test on the home base track or go to the official test track.
Let´s say that every manager choose once a home track that remains for him, like Fiorano is for Ferrari.
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Старо мнение #136 публикувано 19 Юни 2017 г. 07:52:47 (редактирано 19 Юни 2017 г. 07:56:04 от Ioannis Kalogirou) Цитат 
...Yes Mato.!!!
- We cant do 50 laps 30 laps, but the Cost of each EXTRA POINT to Win, will Be ...1,0 million from 0,25 million.!!!

- The Main Argument that Everybody Say here all the Day: "...it's Equal for ALL, it's Equal for ALL", ...it's WRONG.!!!
- NO, it's Not Equal For ALL.!!!
... the Reach managers Can Do testing and will be Stronger.!!!
... the Other Managers (90% of) can NOT.!!!
- And the Gap between them ...Increase.!!! (Like the Poor & Reach in Real)

...so Simple and That.-
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Старо мнение #137 публикувано 19 Юни 2017 г. 08:19:10 Цитат 
Quote ( Ioannis Kalogirou @ June 19th 2017,07:52:47 )


- NO, it's Not Equal For ALL.!!!
... the Reach managers Can Do testing and will be Stronger.!!!
... the Other Managers (90% of) can NOT.!!!
...so Simple and That.-


That was the proper answer to that bs "it's same price for everyone".
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Старо мнение #138 публикувано 19 Юни 2017 г. 08:19:10 Цитат 
You are right Ioannis, that the rich manager could do more testing than the poor one.
But it should be ok, thay have managed in long periods of good planing to earn all this money.
And therefor a home track that dont cost 1Mio for every testing could be a solution. So if you have the money go to the official one, if not, stay at home and do the testing there.
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Старо мнение #139 публикувано 19 Юни 2017 г. 09:31:55 Цитат 
Everybody have same opportunities to earn money, so yes it is really equal for all.
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Старо мнение #140 публикувано 19 Юни 2017 г. 10:01:49 Цитат 
Quote ( Ioannis Kalogirou @ June 19th 2017,07:52:47 )

- The Main Argument that Everybody Say here all the Day: "...it's Equal for ALL, it's Equal for ALL", ...it's WRONG.!!!
- NO, it's Not Equal For ALL.!!!
... the Reach managers Can Do testing and will be Stronger.!!!
... the Other Managers (90% of) can NOT.!!!
- And the Gap between them ...Increase.!!! (Like the Poor & Reach in Real)


We all started from 30M in rookie. It's not the rich's fault they did better than the poor at managing money. We've all had equal opportunity here.
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Старо мнение #141 публикувано 19 Юни 2017 г. 10:17:02 (редактирано 19 Юни 2017 г. 10:19:41 от Ioannis Kalogirou) Цитат 
- That's Exactly say Tramp and the millionaires.!!!
...maybe Here we have a Managing Game, But the Tittle not take the Richer.!!!

...respect a little more the Try & Experiment and the Fight and not the stupidity to collect Money with thousand burning laps.!!!

- Its the Only Way to don't stay alone here the 200-300 Managers who Love the Current system...

...I am sure cum soon the time when the GPRO, prefer to give a Game For More People to Enjoy every Day.!!!

...with all my Respect from Beautiful Sithonia/Chalkidiki/Greece.!!!
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Старо мнение #142 публикувано 19 Юни 2017 г. 11:12:02 Цитат 
Quote ( Ioannis Kalogirou @ June 19th 2017,10:17:02 )

- That's Exactly say Tramp and the millionaires.!!!
...maybe Here we have a Managing Game, But the Tittle not take the Richer.!!!

...respect a little more the Try & Experiment and the Fight and not the stupidity to collect Money with thousand burning laps.!!!


It is managing game and the economic is very important part of managing games too. There are lot of possibilities to earn money, not only burning laps. I finish races without burning and know to save money too. So I think system of game is good.

If you try, experiment and fight you have different experiences and advantages, than managers who aim to collect money. Nobody can have everything. There is many way to play this game.

So more enjoying of game and less complainig please, there are really equal rules and possibilities for everybody.

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Старо мнение #143 публикувано 19 Юни 2017 г. 11:43:47 Цитат 
- I am not Complaining.!!! ...and of Course NOT for Personal Profits.!!!
...I just shaw you, my Thoughts, ...the MOON and the Future.!!!
....So stop seeing my ugly and aging finger.!!!! ...Please.!!!

...With out Thoughts and Vision, There is no evolution and we will become fossils.-

- As about me and my Team don't worry.!!! ...the Experiment seasons are gone and now collect money very Easy,
...I am the last one on This of course, because I sacrifice to many season to find the Informations to Promote my Greek Dogs, and soon you Understand that for Good.!!!

:)
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Старо мнение #144 публикувано 19 Юни 2017 г. 12:12:56 Цитат 
You moan about the test track however it's the same for everyone. Everyone is in the same boat with the test track however bad the wear is and some people can handle it better and plan it better than others, that is what a management game is about. So what if the track was really bad wear, everyone has the same track and you have to deal with it in the best possible way
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Старо мнение #145 публикувано 19 Юни 2017 г. 12:26:37 (редактирано 19 Юни 2017 г. 12:27:43 от Graham Mercer) Цитат 
We might as well have the same argument about the season calendar.
It is not fair that people get an 'easy' season for promotion while others get a 'hard' season, every season should be the same so that everyone has the same planning possibilities.

Obviously I don't believe this, I am just extending the current (silly) test track argument. 😛

Test tracks come and go, but the whining goes on forever.
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Старо мнение #146 публикувано 20 Юни 2017 г. 17:56:58 Цитат 
TKS
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Старо мнение #147 публикувано 20 Юни 2017 г. 17:57:35 Цитат 
hi
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Старо мнение #148 публикувано 20 Юни 2017 г. 18:01:29 Цитат 
Quote ( Sas Sas @ June 20th 2017,17:57:35 )

hi

Welcome :)
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Старо мнение #149 публикувано 27 Юни 2017 г. 15:59:06 Цитат 
Because I'm in Rookie next season, No testing to me... :-)

Quote ( Ioannis Kalogirou @ June 18th 2017,08:12:35 )


Expensive (scale IBK) = 33,4
testing Track Serres = 1,4


Can Somebody explain scale IBK for me? What is it meaning?
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Старо мнение #150 публикувано 27 Юни 2017 г. 16:03:33 Цитат 
If Buenos Aires was on August 4 or 8, it coincided with a special race that will be the 6th in that circuit
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