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Krzysztof Wnuk
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Gammelt indlæg #1 Skrevet Aug 24 2018, 16:53:30 Citat 
Maybe it can be nice idea for make game more intresting

For example if manager will got 3 hattrick in one seasson can got extra bonus money for this

Rookie - 10 mln
Amateur - 25 mln
Pro - 45 mln
Master - 60 mln
Elite - 75 mln

my value this bonuses is for discuss ,,,
lets talk about this idea it is nice idea for managers which have good seassons especially in promotion seasson
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Gammelt indlæg #2 Skrevet Aug 24 2018, 16:54:48 Citat 
can be fun, but those values are too high
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Gammelt indlæg #3 Skrevet Aug 24 2018, 16:56:08 Citat 
seems like an unnecessary reward for managers that dominate their groups and rake in tons of money already
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Gammelt indlæg #4 Skrevet Aug 24 2018, 16:59:30 (senest redigeret Aug 24 2018, 17:00:17 af Dominik Karda) Citat 
I'd instead throw in a small bonus for a Grand Chelem, if anything.

You already get some decent cash for getting a pole and FL.
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Gammelt indlæg #5 Skrevet Aug 24 2018, 17:00:14 Citat 
Quote ( António Pereira @ August 24th 2018,16:54:48 )

can be fun, but those values are too high


Yeah, needs a decimal point in the middle.
But, I still think it is unnecessary and tend to agree with Miel.
Maybe for 3 Grand Chelem's in a season, yes
But
Hattricks are too easy if you are well prepared for a Promo run.
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Gammelt indlæg #6 Skrevet Aug 24 2018, 17:01:11 Citat 
So take my rookie season where i won 16 races and got 14 poles and 17 fastest laps, i'd have gotten about 40mil. Maybe if it was 1,2,3,4,5 or like 1,3,5,7,10 maybe, even the 2nd one is too high
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Gammelt indlæg #7 Skrevet Aug 24 2018, 17:05:26 Citat 
I would say that it would be better to reward the achievements with small amount of supporter credits (i.e.0,10).
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Gammelt indlæg #8 Skrevet Aug 24 2018, 17:08:10 Citat 
I'd rather have "2nd best in a season" money award for managers who finishes 2nd in standings and finished 10 times 2nd place in races. Worth of.. 2mil. Same could be for every top ten or 20 places. 1mil for 10 times finishing first and position 1st and so on. But only for managers who retain. So if manager manages to finish 20th in season and finishes 10 times in 20th position in a race, then manager would get 20 mil. It would need quite a lot of luck to do it below podium positions but at least there could be some "target" for guys who are racing for middle positions.
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Gammelt indlæg #9 Skrevet Aug 24 2018, 17:12:05 Citat 
profound idea
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Gammelt indlæg #10 Skrevet Aug 24 2018, 17:27:48 Citat 
Quote ( Tomek Kiełpiński @ August 24th 2018,17:05:26 )

I would say that it would be better to reward the achievements with small amount of supporter credits (i.e.0,10).

I think completing blocks of achievements could be worthy of SC, though that could lock players into playing a certain way. Eg, completing the rookie/ama/pro etc blocks, or sections in the general block.

But let's face it, 99% of managers can't ever win the national hero achievement so no one's ever completing the general block.
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Gammelt indlæg #11 Skrevet Aug 24 2018, 17:52:05 Citat 
Not in rookie. We already have seen that rookie penalty don't slow very much these "super-rookies", so we really don't wanna give them even more money.
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Gammelt indlæg #12 Skrevet Aug 24 2018, 18:10:08 Citat 
What about an extra bonus from sponsors to good results?
Not all sponsors will give bonus and depending on the sponsors atributes what is a good result that deserves a bonus could be different. In addition, it could be other factors that affect bonuses amount like how much money you have and/or cost of salaries, etc. Thus, It will be something that can not be easily predict or that contributes to fatten the wallet of rich managers. Instead, it could contribute to rebuild economy for managers with ruined economy but good results.
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Gammelt indlæg #13 Skrevet Aug 24 2018, 18:18:27 Citat 
Quote ( Krzysztof Wnuk @ August 24th 2018,16:53:30 )

Maybe it can be nice idea for make game more intresting



How would this make the game more interesting?.

IMHO it would make it worse since it will give more money to those already winning everything.

It is also too much money.
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Gammelt indlæg #14 Skrevet Aug 24 2018, 18:19:01 Citat 
Quote ( Vesa Ritvanen @ August 24th 2018,17:52:05 )

Not in rookie. We already have seen that rookie penalty don't slow very much these "super-rookies", so we really don't wanna give them even more money.

I you mean my thought about this, then good point and I agree. Just Ama and above.
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Gammelt indlæg #15 Skrevet Aug 24 2018, 18:30:51 Citat 
Quote ( Pete Lohvansuu @ August 24th 2018,18:19:01 )

Quote ( Vesa Ritvanen @ August 24th 2018,17:52:05 )

Not in rookie. We already have seen that rookie penalty don't slow very much these "super-rookies", so we really don't wanna give them even more money.
I you mean my thought about this, then good point and I agree. Just Ama and above.


In no way would this effect Super Rookies, as any bonus is deleted in the reset.
They will start with either $30 million or $35 million ( for doing 17 races) less any penalty for getting more than 50 points and going negative.
So really it is not applicable to them.

Only Rookies who could benifit are genuine promoters. So if implemented then Rookie should be included IMHO.
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Gammelt indlæg #16 Skrevet Aug 24 2018, 18:37:57 Citat 
Quote ( Andrew Wilden @ August 24th 2018,18:30:51 )

In no way would this effect Super Rookies, as any bonus is deleted in the reset.


I thought that with this plan you get that bonus money right after 3rd hattrick, and in that case it will be effect those.
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Gammelt indlæg #17 Skrevet Aug 24 2018, 18:45:54 (senest redigeret Aug 24 2018, 18:48:50 af Andrew Wilden) Citat 
Quote ( Vesa Ritvanen @ August 24th 2018,18:37:57 )

Quote ( Andrew Wilden @ August 24th 2018,18:30:51 )

In no way would this effect Super Rookies, as any bonus is deleted in the reset.

I thought that with this plan you get that bonus money right after 3rd hattrick, and in that case it will be effect those.


You could be correct on that. It hasn't been detailed enough as yet. I thought it would be paid as a bonus at the end of the season/reset similar to the 17 race bonus.
But anyway regardless of how it is done, it will give no long term benefit to Super Rookies, so I see it as neither here nor there.
Why penalize the genuine promoters because of a few Super Rookies?
That was my point.

I still disagree with the concept anyway, as it is far too easy.
As I said above, maybe for 3 Grand Chelem's, then yes.
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Gammelt indlæg #18 Skrevet Aug 24 2018, 18:57:10 Citat 
Quote ( Gastón Paris @ August 24th 2018,18:10:08 )

What about an extra bonus from sponsors to good results?


I would consider it a bonus if sponsors would behave more business wise and less like the diva's they are... So negotiate quick(er), actually spend some money and don't bitch at you all the time before they leave eventually ;)
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Gammelt indlæg #19 Skrevet Aug 24 2018, 20:59:25 Citat 
I still disagree with the concept anyway, as it is far too easy.

Good points you and Vesa did. Rookies wouldn't get any unless they will promote.. So perhaps they would deserve it too. Depending on what stage the bonuses will be added. If it's before the taxes, then it would be even more fair, money for the poor managers.
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Gammelt indlæg #20 Skrevet Aug 24 2018, 21:25:38 Citat 
There is no need for more money to be injected into managers balances.


Giving a small supporter credit bonus for completing an achievement w ouldnt be bad (it would favor paying bonuses to newer managers), but any kind of in game money is overkill.

We already have discussions about it being too easy to make money in ama.
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Gammelt indlæg #21 Skrevet Aug 24 2018, 21:56:21 Citat 
Quote ( Daniel Douglas @ August 24th 2018,21:25:38 )

Giving a small supporter credit bonus for completing an achievement w ouldnt be bad


I don't know if this was already proposed somewhere, but I quite like this idea. I guess it must be nontransferable supporter credits (which I guess is technically doable given I'm almost sure newcomer free credits are nontransferable as well). I suppose some balance is required, given as far as I know the proportion of supporters is rather small, so giving them free credits as well won't be good for the economic sustainability of the game. I thought about some options:

- Bonus only for non-supporters: this might actually backfire because supporters might feel kicked in the balls. Wouldn't be my case, but still possible.
- Bonus for some achievements for everybody but a bit higher if the manager is a supporter in the first place: I guess this might work because it encourages being a supporter

In any case, naturally it should be rather infrequent cases and small bonuses nonetheless.
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Gammelt indlæg #22 Skrevet Aug 24 2018, 22:06:00 Citat 
Quote ( Krzysztof Wnuk @ August 24th 2018,16:53:30 )

Maybe it can be nice idea (...)

The computer sez no.
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Gammelt indlæg #23 Skrevet Aug 24 2018, 22:14:27 Citat 
At 0.05 credits per achievement ... it is only 17 supporter credits... not a huge cost to game but could be something which adds a tiny bit of interest
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