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Vana postitus #121 postitatud 17 Juun 2017, 16:59:07 Tsiteeri 
Stefan has caved in that didn't take long. Should have changed it to spa.
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Vana postitus #122 postitatud 17 Juun 2017, 17:05:23 Tsiteeri 
Quote ( David Jones-Winkley @ June 17th 2017,16:59:07 )

Should have changed it to spa.
+Sauna.
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Vana postitus #123 postitatud 17 Juun 2017, 17:22:43 Tsiteeri 
How did Stefan cave in? he made a mistake and corrected it, thank heavens for that
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Vana postitus #124 postitatud 17 Juun 2017, 18:18:42 Tsiteeri 
Quote ( Tibor Szuromi @ June 17th 2017,16:45:49 )

Andrei!

Test track no lotto. Stefan decision.


Are you absolutely sure about that? :)
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Vana postitus #125 postitatud 18 Juun 2017, 00:16:25 Tsiteeri 
How many people did it take to cry and whine about the test track to get it changed? Bunch of frickin pansies...
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Vana postitus #126 postitatud 18 Juun 2017, 02:04:31 Tsiteeri 
Quote ( Stefan Voggenreither @ June 17th 2017,13:24:25 )

Hmmm... sounds revolutionary. But it is just an admin admitting a small mistake... sorry ;-)


Thank´s for after all this time you are still the same :)
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Vana postitus #127 postitatud 18 Juun 2017, 08:12:35 (Viimati muutis Ioannis Kalogirou 18 Juun 2017, 08:14:43) Tsiteeri 
Season 60
Expensive (scale IBK) = 33,4
testing Track Serres = 1,4

..1....2....3.....4....5....6.....7.....8....9....10...11...12...13...14...15...16...17
3,8+1,4+0,0+2,2+2,5+0,8+2,2+2,4+2,7+0,6+2,5+1,7+3,5+1,5+1,4+2,3+1,8=33,4

- If go out Races 1 & 13 ...It's Very Very Cheep Season.!!!
...and meybe the 1,4 of Serres look big but is Not so Expensive (Serres have 80 Laps).!!!

- Good Sunday from Beautiful Sithonia/Chalkidiki/Greece.!!!
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Vana postitus #128 postitatud 18 Juun 2017, 14:11:39 Tsiteeri 
When can we race at Bathurst???
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Vana postitus #129 postitatud 18 Juun 2017, 14:43:19 Tsiteeri 
Quote ( Gary Greenwood @ June 18th 2017,14:11:39 )

When can we race at Bathurst???

Oh if only!
6.2 km lap, (so about a 50 lap race)
1.9 km straight and 1.1 km straight
23 corners
high speed and low speed sections
elevation change 174 metres

Stuff that a GPRO dream track is made of :)
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Vana postitus #130 postitatud 18 Juun 2017, 18:55:03 Tsiteeri 
I wonder Stefan why you really changed the test track, I haven't seen that clearly from any of your earlier statements? I know a lot of managers are whining about an expensive test track, but really, that's the same for all of us.

I thought this game was about best managing your complete package (including the testing and cash) no matter what the conditions are. I just hope this isn't a step towards simplifying the game, and removing complexity just because some managers cry out here.
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Vana postitus #131 postitatud 18 Juun 2017, 22:43:23 (Viimati muutis Jeff Pumphrey 18 Juun 2017, 22:43:53) Tsiteeri 
The tradeoff for a cheaper test track is that all 17 races will have 50% rain probability for all 4 sessions.
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Vana postitus #132 postitatud 19 Juun 2017, 00:05:33 Tsiteeri 
Quote ( Klas Britse @ June 18th 2017,18:55:03 )

I wonder Stefan why you really changed the test track, I haven't seen that clearly from any of your earlier statements? I know a lot of managers are whining about an expensive test track, but really, that's the same for all of us.

I thought this game was about best managing your complete package (including the testing and cash) no matter what the conditions are. I just hope this isn't a step towards simplifying the game, and removing complexity just because some managers cry out here.


I don't see any steps towards anything. For umpteen seasons the test track has been selected from rather cheap tracks, so if anything, Bremgarten would have been a step towards something. I have nothing against moving testing towards a bit more expensive tracks, but after a long history of cheap test tracks people have learned to plan their seasons around a cheap test track. Having them vary more would add variation and unpredictability, but might also put people at different stages of their plans at different positions. Though I'd rather have that than race ending randoms. And as said, I wouldn't mind if the top 10 cheapest tracks were taken their test track gradings away.
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Vana postitus #133 postitatud 19 Juun 2017, 00:34:56 Tsiteeri 
If I calculated right, GPRO has now 60 tracks. Why not have shortest (or cheapest) part of tracks as a possibility to be a test track? Like 40 cheapest tracks as of now? Perhaps even announce it? Then managers could plan by it, Hoping for the best or worst. Or it could be 60% of most expensive tracks? If there would be some range where managers planning there future could trust in future, I think it would help. Test track going from 0 -> 100 doesn't help many. Personally I don't care, but some may.

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Vana postitus #134 postitatud 19 Juun 2017, 06:00:48 (Viimati muutis Ioannis Kalogirou 19 Juun 2017, 06:12:56) Tsiteeri 
- This Theme must solve Ones for Ever.!!!
...the Extra Points Character must produce from the Total Testing Kilometers.!!!
...Not the testing Laps.!!! ...one Track has 3,0 Kilometers other 5,0 other 7,0.!!! ...So this Method is Mathematically Unorthodox.!!!
- If the GPRO do that, We Can Use Any Track to Testing.!!! ...even with one Lap of 305 Km.-
...so Simple.-

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Vana postitus #135 postitatud 19 Juun 2017, 07:24:26 Tsiteeri 
I don´t see where were the problem with Bremgarten. If it is too expensive than make 50 laps testing and not 100. It is important that the testing points are distributed on kilometers and not on number of laps. On the other side if it´s expensive, it´s expensive for everyone.
Another idea is to make an home track for every manager parallel to the test track, so everyone can choose if he wants to test on the home base track or go to the official test track.
Let´s say that every manager choose once a home track that remains for him, like Fiorano is for Ferrari.
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Vana postitus #136 postitatud 19 Juun 2017, 07:52:47 (Viimati muutis Ioannis Kalogirou 19 Juun 2017, 07:56:04) Tsiteeri 
...Yes Mato.!!!
- We cant do 50 laps 30 laps, but the Cost of each EXTRA POINT to Win, will Be ...1,0 million from 0,25 million.!!!

- The Main Argument that Everybody Say here all the Day: "...it's Equal for ALL, it's Equal for ALL", ...it's WRONG.!!!
- NO, it's Not Equal For ALL.!!!
... the Reach managers Can Do testing and will be Stronger.!!!
... the Other Managers (90% of) can NOT.!!!
- And the Gap between them ...Increase.!!! (Like the Poor & Reach in Real)

...so Simple and That.-
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Vana postitus #137 postitatud 19 Juun 2017, 08:19:10 Tsiteeri 
Quote ( Ioannis Kalogirou @ June 19th 2017,07:52:47 )


- NO, it's Not Equal For ALL.!!!
... the Reach managers Can Do testing and will be Stronger.!!!
... the Other Managers (90% of) can NOT.!!!
...so Simple and That.-


That was the proper answer to that bs "it's same price for everyone".
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Vana postitus #138 postitatud 19 Juun 2017, 08:19:10 Tsiteeri 
You are right Ioannis, that the rich manager could do more testing than the poor one.
But it should be ok, thay have managed in long periods of good planing to earn all this money.
And therefor a home track that dont cost 1Mio for every testing could be a solution. So if you have the money go to the official one, if not, stay at home and do the testing there.
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Vana postitus #139 postitatud 19 Juun 2017, 09:31:55 Tsiteeri 
Everybody have same opportunities to earn money, so yes it is really equal for all.
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Vana postitus #140 postitatud 19 Juun 2017, 10:01:49 Tsiteeri 
Quote ( Ioannis Kalogirou @ June 19th 2017,07:52:47 )

- The Main Argument that Everybody Say here all the Day: "...it's Equal for ALL, it's Equal for ALL", ...it's WRONG.!!!
- NO, it's Not Equal For ALL.!!!
... the Reach managers Can Do testing and will be Stronger.!!!
... the Other Managers (90% of) can NOT.!!!
- And the Gap between them ...Increase.!!! (Like the Poor & Reach in Real)


We all started from 30M in rookie. It's not the rich's fault they did better than the poor at managing money. We've all had equal opportunity here.
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Vana postitus #141 postitatud 19 Juun 2017, 10:17:02 (Viimati muutis Ioannis Kalogirou 19 Juun 2017, 10:19:41) Tsiteeri 
- That's Exactly say Tramp and the millionaires.!!!
...maybe Here we have a Managing Game, But the Tittle not take the Richer.!!!

...respect a little more the Try & Experiment and the Fight and not the stupidity to collect Money with thousand burning laps.!!!

- Its the Only Way to don't stay alone here the 200-300 Managers who Love the Current system...

...I am sure cum soon the time when the GPRO, prefer to give a Game For More People to Enjoy every Day.!!!

...with all my Respect from Beautiful Sithonia/Chalkidiki/Greece.!!!
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Vana postitus #142 postitatud 19 Juun 2017, 11:12:02 Tsiteeri 
Quote ( Ioannis Kalogirou @ June 19th 2017,10:17:02 )

- That's Exactly say Tramp and the millionaires.!!!
...maybe Here we have a Managing Game, But the Tittle not take the Richer.!!!

...respect a little more the Try & Experiment and the Fight and not the stupidity to collect Money with thousand burning laps.!!!


It is managing game and the economic is very important part of managing games too. There are lot of possibilities to earn money, not only burning laps. I finish races without burning and know to save money too. So I think system of game is good.

If you try, experiment and fight you have different experiences and advantages, than managers who aim to collect money. Nobody can have everything. There is many way to play this game.

So more enjoying of game and less complainig please, there are really equal rules and possibilities for everybody.

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Vana postitus #143 postitatud 19 Juun 2017, 11:43:47 Tsiteeri 
- I am not Complaining.!!! ...and of Course NOT for Personal Profits.!!!
...I just shaw you, my Thoughts, ...the MOON and the Future.!!!
....So stop seeing my ugly and aging finger.!!!! ...Please.!!!

...With out Thoughts and Vision, There is no evolution and we will become fossils.-

- As about me and my Team don't worry.!!! ...the Experiment seasons are gone and now collect money very Easy,
...I am the last one on This of course, because I sacrifice to many season to find the Informations to Promote my Greek Dogs, and soon you Understand that for Good.!!!

:)
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Vana postitus #144 postitatud 19 Juun 2017, 12:12:56 Tsiteeri 
You moan about the test track however it's the same for everyone. Everyone is in the same boat with the test track however bad the wear is and some people can handle it better and plan it better than others, that is what a management game is about. So what if the track was really bad wear, everyone has the same track and you have to deal with it in the best possible way
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Vana postitus #145 postitatud 19 Juun 2017, 12:26:37 (Viimati muutis Graham Mercer 19 Juun 2017, 12:27:43) Tsiteeri 
We might as well have the same argument about the season calendar.
It is not fair that people get an 'easy' season for promotion while others get a 'hard' season, every season should be the same so that everyone has the same planning possibilities.

Obviously I don't believe this, I am just extending the current (silly) test track argument. 😛

Test tracks come and go, but the whining goes on forever.
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Vana postitus #146 postitatud 20 Juun 2017, 17:56:58 Tsiteeri 
TKS
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Vana postitus #147 postitatud 20 Juun 2017, 17:57:35 Tsiteeri 
hi
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Vana postitus #148 postitatud 20 Juun 2017, 18:01:29 Tsiteeri 
Quote ( Sas Sas @ June 20th 2017,17:57:35 )

hi

Welcome :)
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Vana postitus #149 postitatud 27 Juun 2017, 15:59:06 Tsiteeri 
Because I'm in Rookie next season, No testing to me... :-)

Quote ( Ioannis Kalogirou @ June 18th 2017,08:12:35 )


Expensive (scale IBK) = 33,4
testing Track Serres = 1,4


Can Somebody explain scale IBK for me? What is it meaning?
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Vana postitus #150 postitatud 27 Juun 2017, 16:03:33 Tsiteeri 
If Buenos Aires was on August 4 or 8, it coincided with a special race that will be the 6th in that circuit
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