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Tema: Double Accounts & Fake Names |
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Quote ( Mark Witney @ April 21st 2024,18:42:49 ) Shouldn't we accept that changed have been made that for now should stop the DA's? It maybe long overdue but it's been done. There is a much easier way to fix it but that would go against the ideals of the game, make it pay to play, I doubt anyone is desperate enough to have 5 accounts if they have to pay for them all. That would probably lose more than it would gain, wouldn't it be a good idea to see where we are at the end of next season, see if it's still an issue
Problem is pay to play becomes pay to win and those with swanky, high paying jobs will use multiple accounts since they have money to burn.
If there is a perfect solution I'm not seeing it yet though.
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Quote ( André de Carvalho @ April 22nd 2024,03:12:01 )
You did?
Off course not. There is no several times at all. He's bluffing !!! Lollll
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Quote ( Orlando Parro @ April 22nd 2024,14:37:45 )
Off course not. There is no several times at all. He's bluffing !!! Lollll
The last podium for Pipi's in Elite was S.94, R.5 @ Bremgarten. The OP of that statement might not have done that, but it has happened before.
In fact, a teammate of mine won a race in Master 2 last season using Pipi's.
I belive the point of the post was that, given the proper set of circumstances any tire brand can win a race.
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It interested me, so I thought I'd look into points scored by Pipi's in Elite. It's happened 6 times since the introduction of tyre supplier stats in S17:
S98R09 - Jasper Coosemans (P7)
S94R14 - Bruno Caseiro (P7)
S94R05 - Bruno Caseiro (P3)
S93R02 - Jasper Coosemans (P6)
S79R11 - Robert Laszlo (P2)
S75R07 - Dmitry Nechitailo (P7)
So, only 2 podiums, although there were 51 podiums per season with pipi's before other suppliers were introduced! ;)
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Quote ( Mark Pinnick @ April 22nd 2024,16:17:47 ) It interested me, so I thought I'd look into points scored by Pipi's in Elite. It's happened 6 times since the introduction of tyre supplier stats in S17:
S98R09 - Jasper Coosemans (P7)
S94R14 - Bruno Caseiro (P7)
S94R05 - Bruno Caseiro (P3)
S93R02 - Jasper Coosemans (P6)
S79R11 - Robert Laszlo (P2)
S75R07 - Dmitry Nechitailo (P7)
So, only 2 podiums, although there were 51 podiums per season with pipi's before other suppliers were introduced! ;)
Nice work Mark ;)
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Quote ( Alan Horsley @ April 22nd 2024,14:02:26 ) Problem is pay to play becomes pay to win and those with swanky, high paying jobs will use multiple accounts since they have money to burn.
If there is a perfect solution I'm not seeing it yet though.
Pay to play doesn't always have to become pay to win. And a large majority of players would not spend money on making multiple accounts when they could achieve the same (if not better) results by joining an actually reputable team. The bigger issue with going P2P would be a rapid decline of player numbers.
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Quote ( Richard Robin Paukson @ April 23rd 2024,08:14:21 ) Pay to play doesn't always have to become pay to win
Exactly this. Keep everything as is, but make it so that you cannot make any actions unless you have a positive supporter credits balance, and suddenly you are pay to play. Definitely not pay to win.
Quote ( Richard Robin Paukson @ April 23rd 2024,08:14:21 ) The bigger issue with going P2P would be a rapid decline of player numbers.
This then becomes a huge issue for the game, and probably one which it would be hard to recover from.
Interestingly, if the game was pay to play, the issue of DA's becomes a non-thing. If you can afford to pay for 1000 accounts, I'm sure Vlad would happily take your money; but that cannot happen where you can play for free.
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The problem, in fact, is when the game administration itself ignores the rules created by themselves... but anyway, I won't touch on the subject anymore...
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Quote ( Leonardo Heitor Miranda @ April 23rd 2024,14:29:36 ) The problem, in fact, is when the game administration itself ignores the rules created by themselves... but anyway, I won't touch on the subject anymore...
Jesus h christ please stop whinging.
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Quote ( Leonardo Heitor Miranda @ April 23rd 2024,14:29:36 ) but anyway, I won't touch on the subject anymore...
no point reading your earlier 9 forum contributions then..
clearly action has been implemented,, otherwise you wouldn't even be stating facts in reply here...
decent contradiction there though.
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Am I right in thinking the red and yellow flags on profiles are not visible on the app?
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Quote ( Mark Pinnick @ April 23rd 2024,17:28:39 ) Am I right in thinking the red and yellow flags on profiles are not visible on the app?
Yes. I use 90% the mobile app and never saw a flag or similar.
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Was there figured out who was managing these accounts?
I guess that manager don't need to use VPN and never had, so he still plays
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Quote ( Raimonds Urtāns @ April 24th 2024,00:10:09 ) Was there figured out who was managing these accounts?
I guess that manager don't need to use VPN and never had, so he still plays
I don't think we know. But lets speculate. Seems to know what he is doing, so most likely in elite and first name André, 100 %.
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André can't even manage one account properly, let alone 10. :D
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Quote ( Marius Ruţa @ April 24th 2024,07:27:00 ) André can't even manage one account properly I guess every team has one of that guy :D
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Quote ( Martin Granö @ April 24th 2024,05:23:14 ) Seems to know what he is doing Quote ( Martin Granö @ April 24th 2024,05:23:14 ) André
First time I see these two things being connected
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Quote ( Raimonds Urtāns @ April 24th 2024,00:10:09 ) Was there figured out who was managing these accounts?
I guess that manager don't need to use VPN and never had, so he still plays
It Was............ Rebekah Vardy's account
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Quote ( Raimonds Urtāns @ April 24th 2024,00:10:09 )
Was there figured out who was managing these accounts?
One of them is not hard to figure out considering his country has like 4 players only.
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I have a question.
PRO - 13
Third in the standings is Amelia Bosco (who is banned), if she were to finish the championship in third place what would happen?
Would she be promoted to MASTER?
Would the fourth place finisher be promoted?
Other possible solutions?
Thank you
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Quote ( Giovanni Farina @ April 24th 2024,14:58:04 ) I have a question.
PRO - 13
Third in the standings is Amelia Bosco (who is banned), if she were to finish the championship in third place what would happen?
Would she be promoted to MASTER?
Would the fourth place finisher be promoted?
Other possible solutions?
Thank you
It is a fair question as a lot groups now have managers who probably won't race anymore in promoting spots, but according to rules:
''At the end of the season managers in Amateur who didn't race in any of the last 6 races of the season, managers in Pro who didn't race in any of the last 9 races of the season, managers in Master who didn't race in any of the last 12 races of the season and managers in Elite who didn't race in any of the last 15 races of the season will be removed from the game before the next season starts.''
That mean that they all will be promoted if they didn't missed the listed races. Exept if their is no additional changes from admins. And it will be good if we are informed now and not in mid season.
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Agree that would be nice to know in advance what's going to happen to redflagged DAs
in additions there's rule 8.4 regarding Multiple accounts
...then we reserve our right to restrict one or both accounts from further racing without prior warning and apply further punishments including but not limited to a ban from racing, forced Rookie reset, in-game financial penalty, or in extreme cases account closure.
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Quote ( Giovanni Farina @ April 24th 2024,14:58:04 ) I have a question.
PRO - 13
Third in the standings is Amelia Bosco (who is banned), if she were to finish the championship in third place what would happen?
Would she be promoted to MASTER?
Would the fourth place finisher be promoted?
Other possible solutions?
Thank you
Glad someone asked. We have a constantly increasing amount of players that are deliberately not scoring points to avoid possible promotion.
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Quote ( Krasen Belev @ April 24th 2024,15:04:27 ) ''At the end of the season managers in Amateur who didn't race in any of the last 6 races of the season, managers in Pro who didn't race in any of the last 9 races of the season, managers in Master who didn't race in any of the last 12 races of the season and managers in Elite who didn't race in any of the last 15 races of the season will be removed from the game before the next season starts.''
I'm sure the admins will make the right decision. It seems to me though, that under the circumstances, anyone who had been flagged - and subsequently hasn't raced since the VPN changes were put in place - should be treated as though they fall into the parameters you have quoted above?
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Quote ( Craig Templeman @ April 24th 2024,15:32:02 ) Quote ( Giovanni Farina @ April 24th 2024,14:58:04 ) I have a question.
PRO - 13
Third in the standings is Amelia Bosco (who is banned), if she were to finish the championship in third place what would happen?
Would she be promoted to MASTER?
Would the fourth place finisher be promoted?
Other possible solutions?
Thank you
Glad someone asked. We have a constantly increasing amount of players that are deliberately not scoring points to avoid possible promotion.
That's how dead groups are made. ;)
Good luck guys for the next season! :)
(Sometimes is better to promotion 1 season earlier as we planned to avoid the big fights :) )
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Quote ( Mike Kreisz @ April 24th 2024,16:09:03 ) Quote ( Craig Templeman @ April 24th 2024,15:32:02 ) Quote ( Giovanni Farina @ April 24th 2024,14:58:04 ) I have a question.
PRO - 13
Third in the standings is Amelia Bosco (who is banned), if she were to finish the championship in third place what would happen?
Would she be promoted to MASTER?
Would the fourth place finisher be promoted?
Other possible solutions?
Thank you
Glad someone asked. We have a constantly increasing amount of players that are deliberately not scoring points to avoid possible promotion.
That's how dead groups are made. ;)
Good luck guys for the next season! :)
(Sometimes is better to promotion 1 season earlier as we planned to avoid the big fights :) )
There are also many reasons why promoting unprepared is a bad idea.
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Quote ( Fabio Zambetta @ April 24th 2024,15:22:10 ) Agree that would be nice to know in advance what's going to happen to redflagged DAs
in additions there's rule 8.4 regarding Multiple accounts
...<span style=" font-style: italic;">then we reserve our right to restrict one or both accounts from further racing without prior warning and apply further punishments including but not limited to a ban from racing, forced Rookie reset, in-game financial penalty, or in extreme cases account closure.</span>
These FLAGGED accounts aren't coming back, so why wait for a drop down the ranks or even a rookie reset. End of this season remove those accounts, why we want this deadweight hanging around in our groups?
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While I agree that they should be removed and section 8.1 of the rules accelerated for these accounts, Vlad's message is very clear:
Quote ( Vladimir Alexandrov @ April 21st 2024,08:11:51 ) I really can't understand why everyone is talking about cheaters and cheating and demanding additional special, manipulative (and unfair!) actions to be taken. While the playstyle of the accounts who stopped racing from Race 13 was questionable, they were in no way cheating according to the game rules. From what I see they were under investigation and cleared of any wrongdoing. With the latest change they were given a choice, and by the looks of it they simply didn't agree to the latest change, so stopped racing. From here on the normal rules of the game apply to their account standing. They may still change their mind anytime and decide to play under the new terms, only time will tell.
TLDR No further action.
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