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Old post #1711 posted Nov 13th 2014, 08:49:16 Quote 
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I guess eduardo is in a tunnel

Daniel, sorry I have a life and some teamwork to do, and some e-mails to answer, if I can't answer as expeditiously as you want then go sulk in a corner.


I prefer not to move atm.

Rain/sleet mix started, and im on a golf course. So i am hiding from the sleet and cold in the bathroom.


Fair warning: if it doesnt stop soon and i get soaking wet driving back to the club, i will be really pissed off and much more aggressive.
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Old post #1712 posted Nov 13th 2014, 08:49:31 Quote 
Kirsty...
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Old post #1713 posted Nov 13th 2014, 08:52:56 Quote 
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Interesting that you dont mention the two of them being scum buddies. I don't mention the two of them being town either, so? My entire post is from Finn's view and doesn't mention Kevin's alignment at all.


The two of them being scum buddies and finn just following scum agenda is a much more plausible scenerio than finn having a role that requires him to vote the same as kevin.

But you mention the most unlikely of the two.

As if you know something about kevins alignment. (Yay stretchy slip time again)
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Old post #1714 posted Nov 13th 2014, 08:57:29 Quote 
you know you saw me in thread! I am gonna start avoiding the thread for two hours every time that happens :P Too early to post, still putting pony tails in hair and sorting school bags. Going shopping from school run, but will post when home.
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Old post #1715 posted Nov 13th 2014, 08:58:30 Quote 
Kirsty admits lurking.
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Old post #1716 posted Nov 13th 2014, 09:03:21 Quote 
Quote ( Daniel Douglas @ November 13th 2014,08:52:56 )

The two of them being scum buddies and finn just following scum agenda is a much more plausible scenerio than finn having a role that requires him to vote the same as kevin.
I thought it was more than obvious the third option was a joke, but I guess I'll have to spell it out for you next time I make one.
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Old post #1717 posted Nov 13th 2014, 09:03:23 Quote 
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When did i ever say anything about janne in asking you questions?

Janne had been mentioned, and with the little votes still can be one, you didn't mention him but he has been mentioned and voted (although I'm not sure if he has votes now).

And yes you are right, I don't have the exact vote count up to now.


I did not say jannes name at all since you started posting, i also have not mentioned janne as a lynch candidate in quite a while.

You accuse me of contradicting my statements that we should be narrowing the candidate list down, you do this by saying that i am including janne on the list of candidates.


Just because janne was mentioned in a previous conversation does not mean i am pushing him as a lynch candidate.



And what about the rest of my questions you are conveinently skipping over? Picking and choosing what to answer?
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Old post #1718 posted Nov 13th 2014, 09:12:59 Quote 
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The two of them being scum buddies and finn just following scum agenda is a much more plausible scenerio than finn having a role that requires him to vote the same as kevin. I thought it was more than obvious the third option was a joke, but I guess I'll have to spell it out for you next time I make one.


Fact is... finn following a scum agenda set forth by kevin is a very plausible scenerio...

Your joking about the third option, and your previous "wasnt commenting on kevins alignment" speaks nothing as to your exclusion of such an option. This sounds a lot like you already have a mind towards kevins alignment...
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Old post #1719 posted Nov 13th 2014, 09:25:14 Quote 
Just because it's not literally spelled out for you doesn't mean it's excluded. It's part of option 2.
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Old post #1720 posted Nov 13th 2014, 10:09:19 Quote 
I'm really lacking time sorry guys.

Have read/skimmed the last few pages in an attempt to know whats happening. Plus looking further back to try and see what the Krasimir Case is.

If someone could give me a bullet point post about Krasimir that would be very helpful

Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ November 11th 2014,16:57:04 )

So Krasimir is deciding how I mean my posts, skewing them to fit in with his "Kevin's scum" bullshit, and not actually looking at them either for what they are, or with the assumption that I'm town to compare if I would have acted differently. Poor play, as usual, from Krasimir.


Sorry Kevin, but how are we meant to know how your posts are meant? Take your word for it? Should I then just take your word for it that you are town?

Thats a poor defense IMO.

For the record I don't agree with Krasimir's point that you were actually asking for protection in a serious way, but that's not to say I don't believe its possible that you tried to pass it off as a joke to avoid suspicion.

Also interesting that the 2 people I know of that brought up the Kevin asking for protection are seen as scummy.
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Marvin has become a good candidate in y eyes after reading Daryl's post about him.
I find myself doing that a fair bit as scum so I think its a good tell.

So to start with

##vote Marvin

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FYI I have asked to be replaced as well. But said to Tim I would try keep up as best I can while he is looking.
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Old post #1721 posted Nov 13th 2014, 10:20:54 (last edited Nov 13th 2014, 10:42:01 by Kevin Parkinson) Quote 
Kras was being voted for first being a hypocrite (telling people to contribute more when he was doing <DON'T SWEAR> all).

Then kras and kevin had a spout over how kras felt kevin was trying to line up lynches with the janne slip thing. Then how kras felt he has a scum meta read on kevin based off of how kevin is supposedly playing different.

Case on kras was that he was spouting bull, and twisting kevins (funny change of pace btw) words.

Marvin and chew were just following a wagon.
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Old post #1722 posted Nov 13th 2014, 10:40:59 Quote 
#1720 "How are we meant to know how your posts are meant?"

Nicholas, through the discussion, I quite clearly say that people are free to not believe me or question the motivation for what I'm saying as, as you say, most people won't know if my posts are genuinely townie motivated. What I criticised Krasimir for was only looking at them from one angle and not the other. Anyone should consider both. If you then come to the conclusion that they are more likely scummy than townie, then so be it, but not considering the town motivation and starting with an assumption of guilt is wrong.
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Old post #1723 posted Nov 13th 2014, 10:43:12 Quote 
Mod hat on: Normal forum rules apply here too. No swearing please.
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Old post #1724 posted Nov 13th 2014, 10:58:12 Quote 
Bloody mods.


Kevin is obviously scum, because he retained his community silencing abilities after the bot took over.


This is of course a joke, apologies for before.
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Old post #1725 posted Nov 13th 2014, 11:23:05 Quote 
Quote ( Daniel Douglas @ November 13th 2014,10:20:54 )

Kras was being voted for first being a hypocrite (telling people to contribute more when he was doing &lt;DON'T SWEAR&gt; all).

Then kras and kevin had a spout over how kras felt kevin was trying to line up lynches with the janne slip thing. Then how kras felt he has a scum meta read on kevin based off of how kevin is supposedly playing different.

Case on kras was that he was spouting bull, and twisting kevins (funny change of pace btw) words.

Marvin and chew were just following a wagon.


Sweet so I did get all of it from your vote post and Kevins then.

In whixh case I don't have a problem with Krasimir.
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Old post #1726 posted Nov 13th 2014, 11:24:49 Quote 
You mention marvin, you mention kras.


There are others.....
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Old post #1727 posted Nov 13th 2014, 11:25:43 Quote 
What do you mean "get all of it from your vote post"?
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Old post #1728 posted Nov 13th 2014, 11:48:24 Quote 
Unofficial Vote Count (up to Post #1728)

Alan - 0 ()
Andi - 0 ()
Chew - 1 (Francois)
Daniel - 0 ()
Daryl - 0 ()
Eduardo - 0 ()
Finn - 1 (Stuart)
Francois - 1 (Jimmy)
Jack - 0 ()
Janne - 0 ()
Jimmy - 0 ()
Kevin - 0 ()
Kirsty - 1 (Unknown) ????
Krasimir - 2 (Marvin, Chew)
Marvin - 5 (Daryl, Kevin, Finn, michal, nicholas)
Michał - 0 ()
Mike - 0 ()
Nicholas - 0 ()
Noel - 0 ()
Stuart - 3 (Daniel, Janne, Mike)
Vladimir - 4 (Noel, Andi, Jack, eduardo)
No Lynch - 0 ()

Still to vote - Alan, Krasimir, Vladimir

With 21 Players alive, it will normally take 11 votes to reach Instalynch. You must have a vote in place at the deadline if Instalynch is not reached.

The current deadline is Friday, 14th of November 2014 at 22:00:00 CET
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Old post #1729 posted Nov 13th 2014, 11:50:32 Quote 
So,

Kras, stuart, jimmy, francois and vlad

you plan on getting involved?


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Old post #1730 posted Nov 13th 2014, 12:25:37 Quote 
Yes.

Problem is I want to vote too many people and I can't decide who.

Finn for always doing what Kevin is doing.
Stuart for the awful lot of nonsense oneliners.
Marvin for hopping on the bandwagon train, trying to get an easy excuse for placing his vote.

And all of the people who are supposed to play but do not. Sadly, that's like half of the players.

Finn only has 1 vote atm, so doesn't look like a real contender.
That leaves me torn between Stuart and Marvin. I'll vote Marvin but I'm perfectly fine to switch on any of the other 2 if there's any need.

I'm not considering Vladimir as a lynch candidate, since he basically vented my own sentiment about Kevin asking for doctor protection on day 1.

##vote Marvin
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Old post #1731 posted Nov 13th 2014, 12:29:10 Quote 
Quote ( Krasimir Ivanov @ November 13th 2014,12:25:37 )

I'm not considering Vladimir as a lynch candidate, since he basically vented my own sentiment about Kevin asking for doctor protection on day 1.


If I asked for it on day 1, then I've asked for it tonight too. I'll maybe do it again tomorrow, if I'm still around. :)
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Old post #1732 posted Nov 13th 2014, 12:34:42 Quote 
##unvote stuart
##vote vladimir


Think ive covered why on more than one occassion.
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Old post #1733 posted Nov 13th 2014, 12:37:08 Quote 
And for the record... i still strongly believe that stuart is intentionally playing dumb and avoiding any sort of real participation.
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Old post #1734 posted Nov 13th 2014, 13:06:54 Quote 
Quote ( Finn Shaw-McIver @ November 13th 2014,02:03:40 )

the simple fact is Marvin, you're scared to attack him incase he gets you lynched. You obviously feel there is something you want to say but you aren't, town would never be scared of saying what they think to anybody. you are scum. it's good Daryl pointed out your posts because I had completely forgotten you were playing


Quote ( Daniel Douglas @ November 13th 2014,05:41:47 )

If you like the idea of something.... but you will not do it yourself..... you beg the question of:

Why.... why would you not attack kevin if you feel it is a good thing?


So you seriously think that I was dead serious there? I wasn't. I just find it interesting to see someone with a 'flawless' reputation being under attack. But his play is still without any obvious mistakes, so there is nothing to attack him for.

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Old post #1735 posted Nov 13th 2014, 13:08:59 Quote 
Quote ( Eduardo Sanchez Carenzo @ November 13th 2014,07:59:30 )

IIRC it was the same he showed in a previous big game he asked to be replaced.


Don't remember that


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I would not like to make a case on any of them, just makes everything diffuse and many candidates for the lynch.


I don't think you making a case on me will create one more lynch candidate. I had the most votes on me before you placed your vote. So you won't discuss the case on the leading lynch candidate and are happy with describing my general play. I actually think that I play a bit different from my other games.
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Old post #1736 posted Nov 13th 2014, 13:09:41 Quote 
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Marvin for hopping on the bandwagon train, trying to get an easy excuse for placing his vote.


Aren't you doing exactly what you're voting me for?
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Old post #1737 posted Nov 13th 2014, 13:15:50 Quote 
Quote ( Krasimir Ivanov @ November 13th 2014,08:23:59 )

So which one is it?

I'm voting the right people
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Old post #1738 posted Nov 13th 2014, 13:17:03 Quote 
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Finn, the forum doesn't allow me to search for "##vote", but I'm almost certain you've mirrored 100% Kevin's voting so far in the game. Possible explanations:

1. You're totally clueless, so you just do what the big names do
2. You're scum, so you do what Kevin does hoping that if he gets away with it, so will you
3. You have a role that forces you to vote the same person as Kevin ( yeah, right! )

So which one is it?


That's an interesting point you make here. To me option 2 is the likeliest and I don't consider Kevin and Finn being buddies as too likely. I don't believe Kevin would be too happy with his buddy copying him every time

Also interesting that Kevin voted me almost instantly after Daryl's case. Then Finn reacts to the case, but waits a few hours to put his vote down like he doesn't want it to look staged..
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Old post #1739 posted Nov 13th 2014, 13:17:31 Quote 
Quote ( Marvin Mackenberg @ November 13th 2014,13:06:54 )

I just find it interesting to see someone with a 'flawless' reputation being under attack.


Not even close.
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Old post #1740 posted Nov 13th 2014, 13:19:23 Quote 
Quote ( Marvin Mackenberg @ November 13th 2014,13:17:03 )

Also interesting that Kevin voted me almost instantly after Daryl's case. Then Finn reacts to the case, but waits a few hours to put his vote down like he doesn't want it to look staged..

I changed my vote because Kevin asked people voting Krasimir to explain why they had their vote on him.
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