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Old post #2490 posted Nov 18th 2014, 10:29:59 Quote 
Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ November 18th 2014,10:27:36 )

I still think you're scum.

You think I am scum?
Only since Eduardos flip?
So...if Eduardo flipped town it would make me scummy? If Vlad flips scum it would make me scummy? anyone else? just so you have all angles covered? Anything that would have made me town?

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Old post #2491 posted Nov 18th 2014, 10:35:32 Quote 
Yes, since Eduardo's flip. And what do you mean "all angles covered"? It's the same thing and I've explained it. What's your problem? And why are you ignoring my other question?
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Old post #2492 posted Nov 18th 2014, 10:37:50 Quote 
I'm not.
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Old post #2493 posted Nov 18th 2014, 10:40:39 Quote 
Aplogies. Missed your previous post.

My point is you seem to totally rule out the possibility that he's TP and not mafia. Even your answer doesn't consider that possibility.

I'm confident he is lying and is scum, but could easily be SK. You seem much more confident he is mafia, which would make sense if my theory about you is correct.
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Old post #2494 posted Nov 18th 2014, 10:40:58 Quote 
Three times you ask or remind me to reply to why I think Vlad has buddies. Everyone here can predict I will say because he is scum. You have an answer prepared for that or you wouldnt keep pushing. You are becoming predictable Kevin ;)
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Old post #2495 posted Nov 18th 2014, 10:42:03 Quote 
LOL and there it is ;)
Yes, you are right, I hadn't considered TP.
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Old post #2496 posted Nov 18th 2014, 11:00:41 Quote 
Strange thing not to consider when the basis of the major suspicion is about a 2nd kill attempt on night 2.
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Old post #2497 posted Nov 18th 2014, 11:04:24 Quote 
Quote ( Mikko Harju @ November 18th 2014,10:17:39 )

Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ November 18th 2014,10:04:52 )

But it goes back to the massive coincidence presented by Andi's claim. Are we to believe it was just as lucky guess from Vlad? It's as pretty far out guess and I struggle to believe that.

I'm not so convinced on this part. As far as I know, killing roles never get any feedback from their action. At most, Vladimir would have known that a kill attempt on Andi had failed. This doesn't seem any more incriminating than Finn's assertion that there were still multiple killing roles left in the game.


You are correct about the killing role part. However, I don't see Finn's assertion on a similar level. It is normal to expect more killing roles in a game of this size and Finn, being Finn, just takes the norm and assumes it to be true.
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Old post #2498 posted Nov 18th 2014, 11:06:10 Quote 
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Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ November 18th 2014,10:04:52 )


But it goes back to the massive coincidence presented by Andi's claim. Are we to believe it was just as lucky guess from Vlad? It's as pretty far out guess and I struggle to believe that.
Bulletproofing was also one of the speculations that I had in my head from the flavour, so for me it wasn't such an inconceivable guess. The bit that i didn't like about it was the fishing about the bulletproofing wearing off.


Interesting to hear that from someone other than Vlad. I didn't consider it, even after he mentioned it.

Janne, should I be quacking?
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Old post #2499 posted Nov 18th 2014, 11:16:34 Quote 
You have spent a lot of time defending Finn this game, Kevin.
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Old post #2500 posted Nov 18th 2014, 11:35:49 Quote 
Defending Finn? When?
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Old post #2501 posted Nov 18th 2014, 11:55:26 Quote 
LOL

Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ November 3rd 2014,09:27:01 )

If you have a point to make with the Finn voting Tim stuff, then make it. If you don't, then why waste time making more quote and single line posts to fill up the thread with nothing. Even our newbie got you spot on so far..


Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ November 6th 2014,14:26:42 )

Daniel, it's clear that's what Finn means so why being so pointlessly pedantic over it?


Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ November 6th 2014,14:42:00 )

As such, your questioning of Finn is pointless and pedantic at best, or role fishing if you genuinely thought he had knowledge that he wasn't TP.



Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ November 6th 2014,15:14:15 )

So you're argument is that you think Finn is TP in your scenario.

What a lot of dragon poop.


Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ November 6th 2014,15:48:12 )

As such, I call total bullshit on all of this. I question your motives for pushing Finn like you did.


Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ November 6th 2014,22:48:55 )

Mafia 101 - If someone says something that may have scummy motivation, like Daniel's badgering of Finn for questionable reasons, you question them on it.


Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ November 13th 2014,15:08:17 )

I very much doubt the following of my vote is on purpose.


Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ November 14th 2014,11:32:07 )

But why would you have expected him to react differently? How would you have expected him to react? Isn't Finn sarcastic and dry a lot of the time so why does this occasion stand out?


Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ November 14th 2014,19:56:20 )


If Finn and Eduardo are buddies (it's certainly a possibility) then that still means Eduardo is mafia so vote him. Finn won't be getting lynched today


Quote ( Vladimir Tsuverkalov @ November 14th 2014,20:43:23 )

I don't know, but I think he wasn't.

#vote Finn


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Vladimir, if you're caught up, any chance of explaining why you are now voting someone who has no chance of being lynched?


Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ November 17th 2014,00:05:05 )

Vlad, Finn never confirmed he was responsible for the blocking.


You have had a few disagreements with him, but once he is directly challenged by others, you step in.
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Old post #2502 posted Nov 18th 2014, 12:35:18 Quote 
I am not gonna confirm anything, but I would certainly not advise to use the existence of a dead quicktopic as a proof against certain roles. The good thing about a quicktopic is, that I can control it and it's in content in the same fashion as I can control this game :)
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Old post #2503 posted Nov 18th 2014, 12:39:43 Quote 
I'm not going to waste my time commenting on every single quote (unless you want me to), but people can go and look at them for themselves.

I see posts that are either nothing to do with defending Finn at all, they just happen to mention his name but are directed at, or about, someone else. I see partial quotes that don't give the full story. I see posts questioning voting someone with no chance of being lynched (couple of votes, at best) within hours of deadline.

What's really funny about one of them is it's trying to push an Eduardo lynch, as he was a realistic lynch, over a Finn lynch - that's pushing the lynch that you were so insistent on pushing, if you remember - and now you try and use that against me? I laughed out loud at that one.

I don't see a single post in anything you've listed that is "defending Finn" or "stepping in when he's directly challenged". Hell, most of the posts you just made didn't even have Finn involved in the conversation.

Do you have a point though, Kirsty, or you just trying to throw some shit about with no basis. Did you just search for mentions of Finn's name in my posts? And then ignore all the ones were I'm suspicious of him (love how you belittle all the suspicions I've expressed to "a few disagreements" by the way).

Are you trying to say I'm buddies with so I'm defending him? Or I know he's town and I'm buddying up to him? Or is it just a pointless, baseless attack?

Have you searched my posts for other people's names too or are you just focussing on Finn? He has been active in the thread, and he's claimed to have information that was a massive part of day 2, so why shouldn't he be mentioned a lot?
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Old post #2504 posted Nov 18th 2014, 12:42:17 Quote 
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I am not gonna confirm anything, but I would certainly not advise to use the existence of a dead quicktopic as a proof against certain roles. The good thing about a quicktopic is, that I can control it and it's in content in the same fashion as I can control this game :)


"I am not gonna confirm anything" but you pretty much have.

There's a reason mods shouldn't post in game threads. Very tempted to unvote Vlad off the back of this.
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Old post #2505 posted Nov 18th 2014, 12:50:53 Quote 
In fact, as he's potentially on L-1 due to the "unknown" vote...

##Unvote Vladimir

Would be nice to hear from everyone before a lynch happens.
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Old post #2506 posted Nov 18th 2014, 12:51:43 Quote 
Unofficial Vote Count (up to Post #2505)

Andi - 0 ()
Chew - 0 ()
Daniel - 0 ()
Daryl - 0 ()
Finn - 1 (Jimmy)
Francois - 0 ()
Jack - 0 ()
Janne - 0 ()
Jimmy - 0 ()
Kevin - 1 (Krasimir)
Kirsty - 1 (Unknown)
Krasimir - 1 (Vladimir)
Marvin - 0 ()
Michał - 0 ()
Mike - 0 ()
Mikko - 0 ()
Noel - 0 ()
Shoaib - 0 ()
Vladimir - 7 (Jack, Andi, Noel, Finn, Janne, Marvin, Chew)
No Lynch - 0 ()

Still to vote - Daniel, Daryl, Francois, Michał, Mike, Mikko, Shoaib, Kevin

With 19 Players alive, it will normally take 10 votes to reach Instalynch. You must have a vote in place at the deadline if Instalynch is not reached.

The current deadline is Friday, 21st of November 2014 at 22:00:00 CET
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Old post #2507 posted Nov 18th 2014, 12:53:33 Quote 
That's Daniel (I know he's posted, but not actually said anything), Francois and Shoaib, if I'm not mistaken, that we're waiting for.
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Old post #2508 posted Nov 18th 2014, 12:55:03 Quote 
Finn, when asked who you targeted last night, you only said "guess". Will you be answering that question or do you have a reason to withhold it?
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Old post #2509 posted Nov 18th 2014, 13:13:55 Quote 
Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ November 18th 2014,12:42:17 )

Quote ( Tim-Oliver Wagner @ November 18th 2014,12:35:18 )

I am not gonna confirm anything, but I would certainly not advise to use the existence of a dead quicktopic as a proof against certain roles. The good thing about a quicktopic is, that I can control it and it's in content in the same fashion as I can control this game :)


"I am not gonna confirm anything" but you pretty much have.

There's a reason mods shouldn't post in game threads. Very tempted to unvote Vlad off the back of this.


Aside of the existence of a dead quicktopic, I haven't confirmed anything, and only questioned what I considered to be reasoning that goes against the game spirit. If you think I did confirm something else, this is your own bidding and your own assumptions.

Next proper vote count at 16 GPRO time.
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Old post #2510 posted Nov 18th 2014, 13:43:31 Quote 
Has Shoaib actually posted in this thread yet after replacing Nick? I don't seem to remember a single post from him yet...
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Old post #2511 posted Nov 18th 2014, 13:45:20 Quote 
Quote ( Chew Kai Wen @ November 18th 2014,13:43:31 )

Has Shoaib actually posted in this thread yet after replacing Nick? I don't seem to remember a single post from him yet...


No, as I said only 3 posts ago. You not notice that when catching up to see who'd posted? And it isn't really that hard to check by clicking on his profile and view posts.

Why the dumb question instead of just checking (if you really weren't sure) and stating it as fact?
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Old post #2512 posted Nov 18th 2014, 13:47:09 Quote 
Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ November 18th 2014,13:45:20 )

Why the dumb question instead of just checking (if you really weren't sure) and stating it as fact?


It was a rhetorical question...
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Old post #2513 posted Nov 18th 2014, 13:52:22 Quote 
Quote ( Chew Kai Wen @ November 18th 2014,13:47:09 )

It was a rhetorical question...


So what was this?

Quote ( Chew Kai Wen @ November 18th 2014,13:43:31 )

I don't seem to remember a single post from him yet...
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Old post #2514 posted Nov 18th 2014, 13:54:15 Quote 
Jack, what would you say if I told you I saw you visiting someone last night?
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Old post #2515 posted Nov 18th 2014, 13:58:11 Quote 
A bit of skimming (i will not have time to catch up until later today).... but.....



Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ November 18th 2014,09:16:48 )

I'm safe from a night kill anyway, but mafia will already know why.



I will throw you a line.

If Mafia know why ... why would you not share?
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Old post #2516 posted Nov 18th 2014, 14:08:10 Quote 
Quote ( Daniel Douglas @ November 18th 2014,13:58:11 )

If Mafia know why ... why would you not share?


I have considered that.

There is a possibility of a SK in play though. And there is a chance (although I don't think it's likely at all) that I'm wrong, and mafia were not responsible for what happened to me.
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Old post #2517 posted Nov 18th 2014, 14:19:23 Quote 
Quote ( Finn Shaw-McIver @ November 18th 2014,13:54:15 )

Jack, what would you say if I told you I saw you visiting someone last night?

You're a man of many talents, eh Finn?
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Old post #2518 posted Nov 18th 2014, 14:23:29 Quote 
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Old post #2519 posted Nov 18th 2014, 14:26:19 Quote 
Krasimir claims fisherman?

Finn, are you aware that I asked you a question? (Given your question to Jack, I've no issue with you not answering yet)
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