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Worst F1 driver ever?
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I don't know who Alex Young is, but I know Alex Yoong is the poor guy who was put into a Minardi seat because his backers had the money but he didn't want to make the jump to F1 that early, he thought he wasn't ready for it and he sure was. For that, I won't vote him.
Susie Wolff never took part in an F1 race yet so why the heck is she there? :P
Baoder was Ferrari's test driver and was only there because Schumacher was injured too so he was the back-up to the back-up. And to be fair, he's not as bad as people make him out to be. I'd prefer to remember him from his Minardi days.
As for the other two clowns, heads it's Maldonado, tails it's Ide. :P
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His win in Barcelona was good, but there is a saying in F1 that you are only ever as good as your last race. And at the next race in Monaco he swerved his car into someone on purpose during practice like some sort of psychopath
(giving himself a 10 place grid penalty at a track where you have to get pole if you want to win)
How he didn't just get banned for that I still don't know because he did it again at Spa later that season.
There's 2 things I've never seen in modern F1 until Pastor came in. First thing is using your car as a weapon (not talking about crashing on purpose for world championship reasons I'm talking about just out of pure petulance in non-race sessions)
and the other thing is a jump start (maybe I did see that happen before but I really can't remember)
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Quote ( Phil Maunder @ October 2nd 2015,14:22:12 ) His win in Barcelona was good, but there is a saying in F1 that you are only ever as good as your last race. And at the next race in Monaco he swerved his car into someone on purpose during practice like some sort of psychopath
Was it the one with Hamilton? I remember people were blaming Hamilton initially when it looked more like Maldonado's fault.
Quote ( Phil Maunder @ October 2nd 2015,14:22:12 ) and the other thing is a jump start (maybe I did see that happen before but I really can't remember)
I remember that one, Spa that same year too. Good job Pastor. :P
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Quote ( Phil Maunder @ October 2nd 2015,14:22:12 ) and the other thing is a jump start (maybe I did see that happen before but I really can't remember)
He jump started Belgium 2012, then got hit off at the first corner when Grosjean thought it would be clever to try Gymnastics. He got banned for that crash, yet Maldonado has had more penalty points than anyone (Same as Grosjean ironically) yet not been banned yet.
If he didn't have PDVSA backing he'd have been gone after 2011. 5 years in F1 is a complete joke xD
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Quote ( Kashvinder Mann @ October 2nd 2015,14:19:16 ) Baoder was Ferrari's test driver and was only there because Schumacher was injured too so he was the back-up to the back-up. And to be fair, he's not as bad as people make him out to be. I'd prefer to remember him from his Minardi days.
I don't remember if Giancarlo Fiscihella replaced before or after Badoer but I know that he was basically just as off the pace switching into the Ferrari as Badoer was.
Fissi is experienced driver, race winner etc... and in fact almost won at Spa for Force India a few races before so he's a good yard stick I think
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Quote ( Phil Maunder @ October 2nd 2015,14:25:51 ) I don't remember if Giancarlo Fiscihella replaced before or after Badoer but I know that he was basically just as off the pace switching into the Ferrari as Badoer was.
He replaced him after the Spa race, which yeah he nearly won for Force India. Switched to Ferrari the next race and nothing!
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Quote ( Kashvinder Mann @ October 2nd 2015,14:23:39 ) Was it the one with Hamilton? I remember people were blaming Hamilton initially when it looked more like Maldonado's fault.
They did crash in the final chicane during qualifying but that is separate incident to the one I remember (at least I think it is)
Hamilton overtook Maldonado in the last chicane (either to start a flying lap or overtook Paster as he was finishing his flying lap... can't remember) but then on the run up to eau rouge Pastor just swerved in Hamilton on purpose to get him back for blocking him
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Quote ( Kashvinder Mann @ October 2nd 2015,14:26:36 ) He replaced him after the Spa race, which yeah he nearly won for Force India. Switched to Ferrari the next race and nothing!
Kimi only won that race because the Ferrari had KERS & the Force India didn't :|
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get your definitions right. i personally thinking about talentless drivers when the topic is on bad drivers. late de cesaris finished only a handfull percentage of his races, but he was a good driver
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if Pastor is the worst I'd love to know how people rate Bruno Senna
always gotta love these "worst/best/handsomest EVERR" topics which then only concentrate on last 10 years' events :)
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it would be Pastor or our Indian driver from whom we had so much hopes Narayan Kartikeyan .
lewis Hamilton is most overrated
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Why is Maldonado in this discussion? He won the GP2 title over drivers such as Sergio Perez, Jules Bianchi (RIP😔), Sam Bird, Charles Pic, Marcus Erricson and numerous other successful drivers, most of which made F1 and aren't in this discussion.
He had a pole and win in Spain, people say it was a fluke but how come he also got a front row start in Singapore and nearly got a podium in Valencia (that accident was 50/50 IMO)? He regularly beat Bruno Senna too and he's not even in this discussion. Sure he may crash a lot but so have a lot of other drivers (Andrea de Cesaris, Takuma Sato etc.), he may not be in the sport without money either but again you could also say that about several drivers.
He defiantly isn't the worst, heck speed wise I'd say he's above average most of the time.
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Quote ( Alin Costrasuc @ October 2nd 2015,14:18:05 ) Hamilton is fluke as well. He won all those races as fluke. Over and over and over and over...
So is also Rosberg then.
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Alex yoong was 2002 so youre void Janne
EDIT - 2001 actually so that's 14 years :/ goodnight mate
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Quote ( Ben Chime @ October 2nd 2015,15:01:25 ) Why is Maldonado in this discussion? He won the GP2 title over drivers such as Sergio Perez, Jules Bianchi (RIP😔), Sam Bird, Charles Pic, Marcus Erricson and numerous other successful drivers, most of which made F1 and aren't in this discussion.
his money ensured he was with the best team etc throught his career. I could join the best teams if I had enough money.
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Quote ( James Keeble @ October 2nd 2015,15:01:57 ) Alex yoong was 2002 so youre void Janne
ok that defeats my point then :)
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Maldonado won a race, should not be on this list...
my vote goes to Pedro Paulo Diniz
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Quote ( Ben Chime @ October 2nd 2015,15:01:25 ) Why is Maldonado in this discussion?
cos he has the face of a bulldog chewing a wasp and drives like he's sat in a bulldozer :)
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Quote ( James Keeble @ October 2nd 2015,15:03:46 ) Quote ( Ben Chime @ October 2nd 2015,15:01:25 )
Why is Maldonado in this discussion? He won the GP2 title over drivers such as Sergio Perez, Jules Bianchi (RIP😔), Sam Bird, Charles Pic, Marcus Erricson and numerous other successful drivers, most of which made F1 and aren't in this discussion.
his money ensured he was with the best team etc throught his career. I could join the best teams if I had enough money.
All GP2 cars are the same
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cars are the same I did not state that, the teams are not all the same.
Read before typing Mr Chime
Quote ( Ben Chime @ October 2nd 2015,15:11:15 ) All GP2 cars are the same
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In what is this post? damaging the image of some current pilot knowing that there are worse drivers than indicated above
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Quote ( Luca Bertani @ October 2nd 2015,15:01:43 ) So is also Rosberg then.
That was a joke. Hamilton is very good.
Quote ( Phil Maunder @ October 2nd 2015,14:22:12 ) you are only ever as good as your last race.
In this case, Hamilton should have been poorly rated after Hungary this year.
Quote ( Phil Maunder @ October 2nd 2015,14:22:12 ) How he didn't just get banned for that I still don't know because he did it again at Spa later that season.
Schumacher also rammed people with his car (Hill, Villeneuve, etc.)
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Any driver who can't get on the podium of a 6 car race should be considered the worst.
NARAIN
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if we talk about best all time driver o think most of you would agree on ayrton Seena and young talent future world champion the great Max Verstappen .
for current best driver it would have lot of arguements lol .
in reality we can not determine the best and worst driver there are several examples and different to each other in many ways .
everyone can have different opinions .
so pastor may be the worst but we can't say that but let the argument happen
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Quote ( Fabricio Ramos @ October 2nd 2015,15:10:24 ) Pedro Paulo Diniz
Pedro Diniz was ok tbh. He was only in F1 because of his money (I think his dad owned Parmalat iirc?) so he was fighting that reputation all the while. He came up through single seaters though so he was a legit driver.
He matched Damon Hill in a lot of races in their season at Arrows & that was only the season after Hill was world champ. Also iirc he finished 5th at Spa in the arrows that year as well which is a true drivers circuit.
I can't remember any specific incidents with Diniz and in terms of speed I don't think it's fair to call him a worst ever.... just that he was a paying driver is all.
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