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Topic: [Mafia] How I Met Your Mother (GAME OVER) |
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Quote ( Sebastian Jóźwiak @ March 21st 2020,09:10:46 ) I may or may not (not sure if I understand one line you said earlier on thus will not quote it) believe you are buddies with Jasper, so either you both have another QT going on where you believe you're both town/scum, or you two with Lyee orchestrated the whole thing.
Sebastian, this was to Andre. I don't quite understand it, what does the "I may or may not belelieve you are buddies with Jasper" mean?
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I think it lovely that Ahmet is asking us whether it will be announced who kills Lyee if someone does so :)
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Tom, what are your thoughts on Riley at this moment?
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Ahmet, why did you make the comment about the appetite for my lynch in the last minutes of D1?
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VOTE COUNT 2.2
Andre de Carvalho (0) - Riley Dunlop (0) - Tim Wagner (0) - Lech Witarczyk (0) - Martin Irla (0) - Tom Byrne (0) - Lyee Chong (0) - Mike Baston (0) - Jasper Coosemans (0) - George Slater (2) - Jasper, Tim Sebastian Jóźwiak (0) - Ahmet Sonverdi (0) -
Not voting: Andre, Riley, Lech, Martin, Tom, Lyee, Mike, George, Sebastian, Ahmet
With 12 players alive, it will require 7 votes to achieve a lynch decision. Day 2 Lynch deadline is Friday, March 27th, 20:00:00 CET
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ACTIVITY NUDGE
@Martin Irla (A28)
The activity nudge is for those who haven't provided an explanation for their absence for more than a whole RL day (CET).
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Quote ( Lech Witarczyk @ March 22nd 2020,17:14:03 ) Sebastian, this was to Andre. I don't quite understand it, what does the "I may or may not belelieve you are buddies with Jasper" mean?
That means that I may or may not believe Andre is buddies with Jasper based on the conveniently ignored text in the brackets...
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So in one post you post that you believe Jasper and then that you may or may not believe Jasper is scum? That's so weird.
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Quote ( Tim Wagner @ March 20th 2020,00:47:53 ) I also find her final vote switch in #1409 peculiar. She switched from Martin (3 -> 2 votes) to Sudeep (1 -> 2 votes) at a time, when Riley was on top, having claimed and despite that sitting on 5 votes. Even though she said herself she was believing Riley before that in #1366
Why switch? I'm re-reading the final 24 hours of Day 1 (I'm up to around #1400 now) and I also thought the Sudeep vote was significant. Note that Sudeep had 0 votes, not 1 as you say. That was an error in the vote count and Kirsty was well aware of that when she voted (#1408).
So she removes her vote off the 2nd biggest wagon and parks it in a spot where it doesn't look like leading to a lynch at that point. Indirectly she increases the pressure on Riley without being involved in the lynch, if it happens. Or she can still move over at the very end "to secure a lynch, not because I want to lynch Riley bla bla bla".
Conclusion: Kirsty and Riley are not buddies and Kirsty believed Riley's claim.
Now, my initial conclusion was: she's unvoting Martin to take pressure off him (i.e. Martin and Kirsty are buddies). And it is still possible, but it doesn't have to be the case. It could be purely a way to increase the pressure on Doctor Riley without being an important contributor to his lynch.
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Don't put words in my mouth I haven't said please... Let me help you with some quoting:
Quote ( Sebastian Jóźwiak @ March 21st 2020,09:10:46 ) I believe what Jasper and Lyee are saying, unless both of them are scums and orchestrated the whole thing but yet to get a prove of that.
I said I believe Jasper and Lyee claims but am aware of the possibility that they both may be scums orchestrating the whole Loudmouth thing but as stated, don't have proof (or prove? not really sure lmao) of that so far. I should have stated in percentage there right? So like 95% believe, 5% not believe...
Quote ( Sebastian Jóźwiak @ March 21st 2020,09:10:46 ) I may or may not (not sure if I understand one line you said earlier on thus will not quote it) believe you are buddies with Jasper
I may or may not believe Andre is buddies with Jasper.
Quote ( Sebastian Jóźwiak @ March 21st 2020,09:10:46 ) so either you both have another QT going on where you believe you're both town/scum, or you two with Lyee orchestrated the whole thing.
The town/scum thing was there only because of the possibility stated under Quote 1, don't want to copy/paste the percentage...
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Another remarkable thing in the D1 re-read is Martin's case on me in #1435, with 4 hours remaining. I was on zero votes, just like Sudeep was before Kirsty voted him. What strategy is this, if Martin is scum? Didn't want to be caught lynching the doc, and too afraid to be third on the Sudeep wagon which had been started by his buddy? Nah, if he's scum he prepares for a Riley vote at this point, surely?
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I'll catch up in a few hours.
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Quote ( Mike Baston @ March 10th 2020,23:16:50 ) Quote ( Kirsty Ridley @ March 10th 2020,22:56:22 )
Seriously!!!! Is this game just about trying to annoy me?
Seriously, why do you get annoyed?
A serious question to an obviously non serious post?
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Whoa, that meant to go to the notepad, clicked post instead. I am rereading the thread now, this looked liked a forced interaction. Not sure if Tim posted this quote earlier.
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Sebastian, could you explain why you posted this in response to George?
Quote ( George Slater @ March 11th 2020,19:54:53 ) Quote ( Kirsty Ridley @ March 10th 2020,22:56:22 )
Seriously!!!! Is this game just about trying to annoy me?
No, it's about finding scum. But you were as good a candidate as anyone and it's more fun to imagine you as scum, mostly because of how annoyed you get by it.
Quote ( Sebastian Jóźwiak @ March 11th 2020,20:13:33 ) I know the joke phases and all, but maybe that wasn't a joke after all? And maybe Kirsty would be valuable to us so suggesting to lynch her would be good for scums?
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Quote ( Andre de Carvalho @ March 12th 2020,02:19:07 ) So, what do you think of....... *spins the roulette* ..... Kirsty!
So, Kirsty is slidey, isn't she?
Same goes to you Andre. Once again an interaction with George. Do you remember why you picked Kirsty?
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Quote ( Riley Dunlop @ March 22nd 2020,10:44:51 ) Quote ( George Slater @ March 22nd 2020,00:37:09 )
Sebastian's vote is a bit concerning. Moving his vote from Andre to Sebastian by trying to draw similarities fails
Mistake here. I think you mean Sudeep
LOL yes that's obviously a mistake. I originally wrote that post and then lost it, so I was just trying to quickly recall what I had previously wrote and that led to this mistake.
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Quote ( Andre de Carvalho @ March 22nd 2020,03:19:29 ) Does anyone know how many games have George played in here?
I think before this game I've played five (including The Office) and hosted one on GPRO. Never played outside anywhere else.
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Quote ( Lech Witarczyk @ March 22nd 2020,22:02:40 ) Sebastian, could you explain why you posted this in response to George?
You're building a case on me lately I guess :D I admit, now that Kirsty turned scum it is unfortunate that I had those doubts isn't it? But I mean like come on, D1 like just started, I was thinking that maybe joke votes wasn't all that jokes after all at that time, but right now tbh forgotten about that case :) Besides let's say I'm buddies with Kirsty do you think I'd be stupid enough to defend her like 27 hours into D1?
Quote ( George Slater @ March 22nd 2020,00:37:09 ) Sebastian's vote is a bit concerning. Moving his vote from Andre to Sebastian by trying to draw similarities fails to convince me much when his vote on Andre was almost by his own admission an OMGUS vote.
That's the post I somehow missed, sorry George. I'm not the first one to do that this game - Sudeep did the same thing. Besides why are you concerned only by my vote in there?
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Quote ( Lech Witarczyk @ March 22nd 2020,17:15:07 ) I think it lovely that Ahmet is asking us whether it will be announced who kills Lyee if someone does so :)
Yeah, that comment from Ahmet seems a bit scummy to me as it's a piece of information that carries more use for scum then for town, as if the loudmouth wouldn't reveal who his killer was then it would make it much more safe for scum to target him for their factional kill.
Anyways, according to Mafia Universe a Loudmouth typically reveals who visited them even after they are killed. This game is bastard though, so who knows.
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Quote ( Sebastian Jóźwiak @ March 22nd 2020,22:51:28 ) That's the post I somehow missed, sorry George. I'm not the first one to do that this game - Sudeep did the same thing. Besides why are you concerned only by my vote in there?
I didn't even expect an answer from you on that post, it wasn't really a question just more my thoughts on your Sudeep vote.
I thought I went through everyone else who voted Sudeep at that time aside from Kirsty and Lyee who were the first couple votes on him (Kirsty we now know as scum and Lyee I'm thinking is town right now with his role). What more specifically do you want?
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Quote ( George Slater @ March 22nd 2020,22:58:02 ) What more specifically do you want?
Nothing I guess, just curious why you left out Andre out of questioning after his 'coin-flipping' :)
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Quote ( Sebastian Jóźwiak @ March 22nd 2020,22:51:28 ) You're building a case on me lately I guess :D I admit, now that Kirsty turned scum it is unfortunate that I had those doubts isn't it? But I mean like come on, D1 like just started, I was thinking that maybe joke votes wasn't all that jokes after all at that time, but right now tbh forgotten about that case :) Besides let's say I'm buddies with Kirsty do you think I'd be stupid enough to defend her like 27 hours into D1?
That's not exactly an answer to my question. Were you suggesting that Kirsty could have a power role?
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Quote ( George Slater @ March 22nd 2020,22:52:50 ) Anyways, according to Mafia Universe a Loudmouth typically reveals who visited them even after they are killed. This game is bastard though, so who knows.
If this info is more of use for scum than for town then why on earth did you just post this?
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Quote ( Sebastian Jóźwiak @ March 22nd 2020,23:10:58 ) Nothing I guess, just curious why you left out Andre out of questioning after his 'coin-flipping' :)
Ah yes, I didn't really include Andre's because he wasn't part of the wagon, rather he was at the end deciding who got lynched.
I can kind of put him down to needing to pick someone at the end, he clearly wanted Riley but that wasn't going anywhere. His *flips coin* thing was a bit weird (however he has said that previously both in this game and in a previous one), but he's since given a bit more insight into what he did in post #1775. "You muppets." is still a little odd I find though.
I think what he did was believable from a town player with his explanation, but it could also easily be scum play. Maybe looking back at Andre-Kirsty interactions would be a worthwhile endeavour.
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Quote ( George Slater @ March 22nd 2020,01:08:39 ) I don't think it has been asked yet, but is the QT still active today or has it been shut down? Why are you curious?
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Quote ( George Slater @ March 22nd 2020,01:35:44 ) But what about the possibility of having a single poison cupcake and a bunch of not poison ones? Riley and Sudeep shared the flavour of the cupcakes near the end of D1. I remember they were identical and this makes me think the other 2 are the same so I don't really think the cupcakes will have different effects.
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Quote ( Riley Dunlop @ March 22nd 2020,10:44:51 ) I don't think there is any harm in revealing that in the QT I was pushing them to find an alternative to me. Those who were there (Ahmet, Martin and Seb) were saying that they generally beleived my claim so I was urging them to find another suspect. I confirm.
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Quote ( Lech Witarczyk @ March 22nd 2020,23:30:15 ) If this info is more of use for scum than for town then why on earth did you just post this?
I think the information would be way more useful for scum than town if it was the opposite way, that is if the loudmouth would not reveal any names. Being that typically a loudmouth does reveal the names even after they are killed that would make it risky to lynch them, and even uncertain of what would happen most cautious scum would probably find it risky due to that possibility anyways.
It's also not game-specific information I put out, but publicly available information that isn't definitively applicable to this game anyways, from a site that has previously been mentioned in this game. It's highly probable that scum would have found it anyways (at least scum with a brain), so I don't find it too much to put out.
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Quote ( Lyee Chong @ March 22nd 2020,14:53:28 ) i agree with Andre that Ahmet case on Martin was seems to be brought up late on purpose I still don't think it was 'late'.
Quote ( Lyee Chong @ March 22nd 2020,15:00:53 ) Martin, why do you agree with Ahmet that Loudmouth has more power? Can you point me out where have I said the Loudmouth has more power because I really don't recall saying anything like that?
Quote ( Lyee Chong @ March 22nd 2020,15:05:33 ) Ahmet is the scummiest for me thus far Why didn't you vote me?
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