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Old post #2491 posted Mar 29th 2020, 16:47:54 Quote 
tp = 3rd party
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Old post #2492 posted Mar 29th 2020, 16:51:36 Quote 
Quote ( Lyee Chong @ March 29th 2020,15:58:52 )

But before that, Lech raised the possibility of Seb maybe killed Kirsty, because Seb's oddly suggest to lynch Kirsty in D1.


Say, what? Gimme the quote, no idea what you are referring to.
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Old post #2493 posted Mar 29th 2020, 16:54:23 Quote 
3rd party - not town and not mafia. the most common TP is serial killer who wants everyone to die but there are some more (lyncher who wins when the town lynches a player that the lyncher is given at the beginning of the game), jester (?) who wins if he is lynched.
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Old post #2494 posted Mar 29th 2020, 17:56:55 Quote 
Whilst out on my permitted exercise today I had a thought that wanted to put out there.

It's been stated that people do not see Ahmet as mafia because it would be too risky for him to make such a play iro Martin on D1 as he did. Fair enough, but what if the two of them were actually buddies?

Martin (now Jimmy) has the weaker or no role (mafia goon for Seb in case he wants to look it up) & Ahmet has the stronger role.

Ahmet makes the play early on in D1 as he did thinking that more often than not the first case made on D1 is not usually the one that end's up getting lynched. In that instance, Ahmet looks town like due to the risk of putting himself on firing line & Martin/Jimmy may remain under suspicion but would be able to get out of a flaky D1 case if brought up again.

However if it didn't go as above & Martin/Jimmy gets lynched, flips mafia & Ahmet gets plenty of town credits to keep him away from suspicion for at least a couple of game days unless he makes any slips.


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Old post #2495 posted Mar 29th 2020, 19:16:27 Quote 
Quote ( Lyee Chong @ March 29th 2020,16:47:54 )

tp = 3rd party


Quote ( Lech Witarczyk @ March 29th 2020,16:54:23 )

3rd party - not town and not mafia. the most common TP is serial killer who wants everyone to die but there are some more (lyncher who wins when the town lynches a player that the lyncher is given at the beginning of the game), jester (?) who wins if he is lynched.


Thanks guys :)
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Old post #2496 posted Mar 29th 2020, 19:43:21 Quote 
Quote ( Lyee Chong @ March 29th 2020,16:47:36 )

Sorry, I don't know why I type 'suggest Kirsty lynch', when I actually want to mean 'suggest Kirsty to be valuable' for both 2484 and 2485


Also, I don't want to be rude but how can you type wrongly in two different posts? It's either intentional, or misread of what we were saying I think...
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Old post #2497 posted Mar 29th 2020, 22:00:18 Quote 
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Quote ( Lyee Chong @ March 26th 2020,04:49:01 )

Just to highlight, Riley and Ahmet are the only 2 players interested with the mechanism of how loudmouth shout his visitors' name thus far.


Please quote the post where I have indicated this. I don't recall saying this


In response you then said post #1850

But Post #1850 says:

Quote ( Riley Dunlop @ March 20th 2020,09:16:05 )

Quote ( Lyee Chong @ March 20th 2020,08:13:01 )

Yes, I know how desperate scum want to lynch me now when they know they cant kill me.

As Andre would say, if you have something to say, spit it out

And if what you are hinting at is true, what makes you think scum tried?


That has nothing to do with mechanism of how Loudmouth shouts outs his visitors names. I was questioning you about your softclaim that you had been attacked by scum. At that time I| didn't think that you were claiming to be Loudmouth.

So to say that I was interested in the Loudmouth mechanism is completely incorrect.




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Old post #2498 posted Mar 29th 2020, 22:00:53 Quote 
Quote ( Lyee Chong @ March 29th 2020,15:29:32 )

As oppose to D2, you were quite lay bay in D1. Even Sudeep mentioned you did not seems even try to look for scum


What makes you say that I was "laid back" (I assume that is what you meant) on D1? If I was laid back how come I got into lengthy arguments with the likes of Andre and Lech?

And what do you mean by "Even Sudeep mentioned..."?


Quote ( Lyee Chong @ March 29th 2020,15:29:32 )

You are 'not original' in D2


Sorry I really don't know what you mean by this. Please explain



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Old post #2499 posted Mar 29th 2020, 22:01:29 Quote 
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Quote ( Riley Dunlop @ March 23rd 2020,15:56:09 )

I was wondering who would come out with this one... Don't you think another doctor would have counterclaimed by now?

And you think that this "other doctor" will die before me?

How are these question relevant to my take on your weird suggestion of there is more doctors around.


You said that I was laying the groundwork for 1) if there was a doc counterclaim or 2) if there was another doctor flip.

So both my questions are very relevant. So why don't you answer them instead of ignoring them? I don't understand why you would bother to answer the post but actually not answer it!

And why is my suggestion of another doc "weird"? As I have explained, my doc role is quite weak so I would not be surprised if there was another doctor out there. What is weird about that?




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Old post #2500 posted Mar 29th 2020, 22:03:53 Quote 
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Quote ( Riley Dunlop @ March 22nd 2020,17:01:22 )

why would I feel the need to set out how poison works on D1?

You talk like you are absolutely sure that you wont be killed in N2 here


What? What are you talking about? What what I said got to do with being killed on N2 or any night? My point was that I am not going to sit in the thread and explain how poison works just because I have a poison doctor shot. Why would I do that - either before or after I told people about my shot?

And you didn't address this:

Quote ( Riley Dunlop @ March 22nd 2020,17:01:22 )

And what are you talking about me not giving the information out on D2? When you said about it in your post #1805, I had not even come in to the thread on D2 yet! So how was I meant to have spoken about it on D2 before you mentioned it?


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Old post #2501 posted Mar 29th 2020, 22:04:29 Quote 
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I just don't see why you even felt the need to say anything about this subject.

This is what you said in #2069, but what you did thereafter seems contradicting it.


Sorry again you have me confused. What is it that I said in #2069 and what did I do after that which contradicted it?

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Old post #2502 posted Mar 29th 2020, 22:04:50 Quote 

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Quote ( Riley Dunlop @ March 22nd 2020,15:37:04 )

What is the relavance of this?
Those are some of the examples I see how you used it as an excuse.
What? Just... what?

I don't know which is more frustrating - you not answering questions or you answering questions!!



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Old post #2503 posted Mar 29th 2020, 22:05:34 Quote 
Quote ( Lyee Chong @ March 29th 2020,15:45:25 )

What I found weird regarding Seb (and George) was his interaction with George in D1, where they accused each other, and their accusations/cases were almost the same: fishing pr, lowish activity level, suggested Kirsty's lynch out of blue.

Yes, both used almost the same points on each other.


Ok so what is your conclusion? Or your theories about why they may have done this?

(Taking into account your later correction which, as Seb mentioned, is a bit odd)



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Old post #2504 posted Mar 29th 2020, 22:06:02 (last edited Mar 29th 2020, 22:06:51 by Ivelin Dobrev) Quote 
VOTE COUNT 2.4

Andre de Carvalho (0) -
Riley Dunlop (1) - Lyee
Tim Wagner (0) -
Lech Witarczyk (0) -
Jimmy De Roy (0) -
Tom Byrne (0) -
Lyee Chong (0) -
Mike Baston (2) - Jasper, Ahmet
Jasper Coosemans (0) -
George Slater (3) - Tim, Tom, Sebastian
Sebastian Jóźwiak (2) - George, Andre
Ahmet Sonverdi (0) -

Not voting: Riley, Lech, Jimmy, Mike

With 12 players alive, it will require 7 votes to achieve a lynch decision. Day 2 Lynch deadline is Friday, April 3rd, 20:00:00 CET
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Old post #2505 posted Mar 29th 2020, 22:06:42 Quote 

Quote ( Lyee Chong @ March 29th 2020,15:58:52 )

ok, now Riley claimed he killed Kisrty.

But before that, Lech raised the possibility of Seb maybe killed Kirsty, because Seb's oddly suggest to lynch Kirsty in D1.

This gave me the feeling that Lech is incriminating Seb.

I don't think scum-Seb would pull a bold play like this. As such, I think maybe Lech prepared to use this theory to incriminate Seb, and killed Kirsty.

So, maybe Lech is Riley's buddy, or Lech is TP (multiple kills on Kirsty then).


So answer me this: If Lech was trying to incrimate Seb with killing Kirsty and Lech is my scumbuddy, why did I then claim that I had killed Kirsty. It would sorta ruin our "frame Seb" play wouldn't it?



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Old post #2506 posted Mar 29th 2020, 22:07:24 Quote 

Quote ( Lyee Chong @ March 29th 2020,16:02:37 )

I am pretty sure you guys already covered why Riley want to claim he killed Kirsty.

Can anyone let me know the reason of why, or point me to the post that had covered this, please?


This post is just bizarre. Have you considered that the reason why I would want to claim that I killed Kirsty is because I did?

Why do you automatically assume that everything that I say is untrue?

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Old post #2507 posted Mar 29th 2020, 22:09:45 Quote 
Starting on Monday, I expect everybody to start posting regularly. I have been lenient for the past few days, but now that the weekend is (almost) behind us, corona is still here, baby is born (Congrats Riley), computer is fixed, Martin is replaced, we should try to get back to normal pace.
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Old post #2508 posted Mar 29th 2020, 22:27:24 Quote 
Sir, yes Sir.

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Old post #2509 posted Mar 30th 2020, 02:26:56 Quote 
Quote ( Sebastian Jóźwiak @ March 29th 2020,19:43:21 )

Also, I don't want to be rude but how can you type wrongly in two different posts? It's either intentional, or misread of what we were saying I think...
To be precise, it is because when I typed this, I based it on my note. I said I don't know the reason, because I cant be certain why my note was wrongly jotted in this way, not sure it is a misread or a mis typed.

So you really want to suggest that I intentionally mis rep this to built a case so that I can lynch you?
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Old post #2510 posted Mar 30th 2020, 02:33:44 Quote 
Quote ( Riley Dunlop @ March 29th 2020,22:07:24 )

This post is just bizarre. Have you considered that the reason why I would want to claim that I killed Kirsty is because I did?

Why do you automatically assume that everything that I say is untrue?
So, your fluff apart, what is the reason then?
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Old post #2511 posted Mar 30th 2020, 02:42:53 Quote 
Quote ( Riley Dunlop @ March 29th 2020,22:06:42 )

So answer me this: If Lech was trying to incrimate Seb with killing Kirsty and Lech is my scumbuddy, why did I then claim that I had killed Kirsty. It would sorta ruin our "frame Seb" play wouldn't it?
What about the Lech is tp in this situation? Why only discredible the impposible and silent about the possible part? Want to label me as unicorn theorist because you know you cant lynch/kill me, while I am the only person still see you as scum?

And if you and Lech are buddy, yes that ruins the 'frame Seb' play, but save you from being lynch as Andre and I already raise some reasonable suspicions about you. Without fake claiming the cpr doc, you already be lynched.

Your doctor fake claim is nice play, but lack of creativity because you copy Ivelin's Office idea. Even if the 'poison' thing is relevant in this game, you might be the poisoner and that's why you have the idea to claim poison doctor.

And you also claim received cake, after someone else claim he got cake. So so fake-ish.
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Old post #2512 posted Mar 30th 2020, 03:02:33 Quote 
Sorry Lyee, but you are not making much sense there. I see no possibility of Riley and Lech being buddies, and even if Lech is TP, he didn't kill Kirsty, Riley did. I do think Riley has lied in this game multiple times, but not about killing Kirsty. That would go beyond dumb. And they never tried to frame Seb. I never understood that part of your reasoning. Maybe when you build a case you should provide the quotes.

Seriously, i would love to lynch Riley with you today, and if anything new happens, we can try again, but at this point we should seriously start looking around.
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Old post #2513 posted Mar 30th 2020, 04:10:29 Quote 
Right I'm reading up now, have had a busy weekend.
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Old post #2514 posted Mar 30th 2020, 04:39:13 Quote 
Quote ( Lyee Chong @ March 30th 2020,02:42:53 )

Even if the 'poison' thing is relevant in this game, you might be the poisoner and that's why you have the idea to claim poison doctor.


Suppose he was the poisoner or knew there was poison in the game as a buddy has that role, in that case wouldn't it be really risky to fake-claim poison doctor as there is a good chance that somebody else will actually have that role and counter-claim?
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Old post #2515 posted Mar 30th 2020, 04:40:32 Quote 
Quote ( George Slater @ March 27th 2020,23:07:11 )

Mike, what do you think about my case on Sebastian?


Would love an answer to this, thanks.
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Old post #2516 posted Mar 30th 2020, 05:52:57 Quote 
George, cc of poison doc is not their risk, it is their opportunity.
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Old post #2517 posted Mar 30th 2020, 05:55:23 Quote 
Just a wild idea to ponder. What if the poisoner can has the ability to poison 3 players, while the poison doc also have the ability to protect 8 players to balance the game? Just wild idea.
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Old post #2518 posted Mar 30th 2020, 07:23:57 Quote 
Quote ( George Slater @ March 30th 2020,04:39:13 )

Suppose he was the poisoner or knew there was poison in the game as a buddy has that role, in that case wouldn't it be really risky to fake-claim poison doctor as there is a good chance that somebody else will actually have that role and counter-claim?


He is not claiming poison doc anymore, George. He's claiming doc-of-all-trades. Various one shot abilities, and Riley he himself already claimed to think we may have another doctor. Hell, we don't even know if there is poison in this game at all. Though i think we will find out sooner or later.

Quote ( Lyee Chong @ March 30th 2020,05:55:23 )

Just a wild idea to ponder. What if the poisoner can has the ability to poison 3 players, while the poison doc also have the ability to protect 8 players to balance the game? Just wild idea.


Is this why you are known for blue unicorns? Seriously Lyee, i thought you were getting better. Will you ever learn?
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Old post #2519 posted Mar 30th 2020, 07:59:26 Quote 
Quote ( Lyee Chong @ March 30th 2020,02:26:56 )

To be precise, it is because when I typed this, I based it on my note. I said I don't know the reason, because I cant be certain why my note was wrongly jotted in this way, not sure it is a misread or a mis typed.



So you really want to suggest that I intentionally mis rep this to built a case so that I can lynch you?


I'll repeat myself what I said about other things - honestly I think it's a misread/mistype kind of thing, BUT as nothing is certain in this game so I don't dismiss that it may be intentional.
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Old post #2520 posted Mar 30th 2020, 08:00:34 Quote 
Quote ( Sebastian Jóźwiak @ March 28th 2020,09:27:57 )

So that +1 was for what, the need to re-read?!?!?! And the comment below obviously doesn't AT ALL suggest you meant that trio?!?!?!



Andre, don't make fool of yourself, how can you deny what you've clearly said? No how that's helpful to town?


Andre I'd love for you to address this...
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