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Old post #3031 posted Apr 3rd 2020, 16:05:20 Quote 
Quote ( Jimmy De Roy @ April 3rd 2020,15:24:07 )

##unvote Tom
##vote Jimmy

You are the most suitable candidate as Martin's replacement, you know?
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Old post #3032 posted Apr 3rd 2020, 16:09:12 Quote 
Quote ( Lyee Chong @ April 3rd 2020,02:10:19 )

The uncertainty that provided by the bastard game and close setup is massive enough to discourage the real role from cc.
Even if there is cc, that doesnt rule out the genuinety of the 1st claim, and that further discourage the real role from cc. That's exactly what Riley, Kirsty and many other used to discourage to cc some time ago.


And I have pointed out several times, that even in a Bastard game, there won't be two standard Docs.

And yes, meanwhile Riley has claimed to be Non-Standard, but I still disbelieve there to be a second, full-fledged Doctor alongside a "Protector-of-all-Kinds". Maybe, as I also mentioned, a Faith Healer or some other lesser protection role, but thats it.

So if someone is a full-fledged Doctor, that person should have long claimed. That didn't happen, so I believe Riley.

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Quote ( Lyee Chong @ April 3rd 2020,02:11:46 )

I am perfectly ok with Ahmet's lynch, but prefer Tom at this moment


I agree with Andre, it's pretty funny that you moan at me for pressuring George and Tom and go on about easy lynches, yet vote Tom yourself. So what do you make of Tom now? He has most certainly disappeared for the rest of the game day and didn't really react on you.
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Old post #3033 posted Apr 3rd 2020, 16:11:50 Quote 
Quote ( Ahmet Sonverdi @ April 3rd 2020,02:26:11 )

He can't just blatantly try to leave Seb as an option after Seb's claim, that would only make Mike more suspicious. He might be taking the risk of having a narrowed-down lynch pool but certainly with more town credits.


This is a possibility that I had wondered on why Jasper didn't consider it. It's perfectly possible, and currently there are people that have managed to put the spotlight on Ahmet (yes, me included) and Jimmy-Martin, which caused people to happily move away from Mike.

Funnily enough, the one I considered most likely to be Mike's buddy and who I expected would use this chance to switch to Ahmet or Jimmy, has instead ended up voting him. So much for that bluff.

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Quote ( Jimmy De Roy @ April 3rd 2020,08:26:02 )

Ahmet, Mike, George you putting me on your scum list is that based on my play or Martin's?

All others feel free to answer it too.


Yes. I wanted to lynch Martin on D1, and he did nothing on D2 to change that. Infact, Kirsty's flip enforced thoughts of her being buddies with him. You couldn't do anything to change that so far. Which is why I am wondering if you should be kept around for D3, maybe you can change something given some time.

Then again, voting yourself only makes me want to join in because I distinctly remember you pulled that off as Scum (and also as Town) before.
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Old post #3034 posted Apr 3rd 2020, 16:15:41 Quote 
Quote ( Jasper Coosemans @ April 3rd 2020,15:55:53 )

Why not? Because Lyee might be scum and he would lie about it? If he would come out in thread and say "hey guys, Ivelin just told me Jasper is scum" then I would be lynched, I'd flip town and you'd lynch Lyee the next day. If he didn't mention anything at all, I would come down hard on Lyee and probably get him lynched.
Yes, you explained why it makes sense to reveal your role to your target, but you dare not adress here how your role will make more sense if you can lie and when you are scum.
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Old post #3035 posted Apr 3rd 2020, 16:17:50 Quote 
Quote ( Tim Wagner @ April 3rd 2020,16:09:12 )

I agree with Andre, it's pretty funny that you moan at me for pressuring George and Tom and go on about easy lynches, yet vote Tom yourself. So what do you make of Tom now? He has most certainly disappeared for the rest of the game day and didn't really react on you.
When you read further, you will know you are wrong here
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Old post #3036 posted Apr 3rd 2020, 16:26:07 Quote 
Quote ( Jimmy De Roy @ April 3rd 2020,14:22:21 )

You serious??? have you checked the vote count? i have no reason to drive the lynch away from QT, as it is you and Mike who are in the line of fire.


What? You put Tom on L-2. Talk about driving the vote away from the QT.

I just hoped he would bother reappearing and do more than such a lazy-arse "I'm putting my vote on Ahmet, cya" vote (which, by the way, makes me certainly not going to vote Ahmet now).

Anyway, I'll be off for a bit but I am currently intend on voting you or Mike, more likely you for flip value (Wagons on D1 with stuff like Andre's coin flip for example). When are you leaving since you mentioned you won't be around at the deadline?
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Old post #3037 posted Apr 3rd 2020, 16:27:10 Quote 
Quote ( Lyee Chong @ April 3rd 2020,16:17:50 )

When you read further, you will know you are wrong here


This is the only line he gave you

Quote ( Tom Byrne @ April 3rd 2020,13:11:30 )

I’ve answered you on this. I don’t want any further discussion between you and Riley (assuming it to be as useless as before), I wanted to know your conclusion.


What exactly do you make of that? As I said, he wont be reappearing probably
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Old post #3038 posted Apr 3rd 2020, 16:34:59 Quote 
Trying to catch up while working so I have a good feel for things before the lynch

If anyone has and outstanding questions for me, if you wanna give me post numbers (and links preferably) I will tackle them first
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Old post #3039 posted Apr 3rd 2020, 16:35:33 Quote 

Quote ( Riley Dunlop @ April 3rd 2020,16:34:59 )

If anyone has any outstanding questions for me, if you wanna give me post numbers (and links preferably) I will tackle them first


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Old post #3040 posted Apr 3rd 2020, 16:36:32 Quote 
Quote ( Lyee Chong @ April 1st 2020,16:07:22 )

the idea is good, but the flaw of this explanation is how do you think I can get to know you are the one picked my call if not because my loudmouth role?

I would have crumbed it. I would have found a way to mention the words "phone call" in a way that would have been meaningless to everyone except for the person who called me.
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Old post #3041 posted Apr 3rd 2020, 16:36:58 Quote 
Quote ( Tim Wagner @ April 3rd 2020,16:27:10 )

What exactly do you make of that? As I said, he wont be reappearing probably
He cant explained his behavior, likely scum.
I don't see how town can behave this way, where he is as if rarely play D1 and D2. What I can only remember about Tom is he tracked ppl activity D1, and busy with uni things D2.
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Old post #3042 posted Apr 3rd 2020, 16:40:43 Quote 
Quote ( Lyee Chong @ April 1st 2020,05:42:17 )

Dont ask me clarify anything with the mod, as I dont want to be modkilled. He already warned once when I try clarified things with him.


Why would he warn you for seeking clarification? He would either say he could clarify or not. I find this really odd
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Old post #3043 posted Apr 3rd 2020, 16:53:43 Quote 
Quote ( Riley Dunlop @ April 3rd 2020,16:40:43 )

Why would he warn you for seeking clarification? He would either say he could clarify or not. I find this really odd
Fishing is not allowed during covid lockdown, Riley
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Old post #3044 posted Apr 3rd 2020, 16:54:32 Quote 
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Quote ( Riley Dunlop @ April 3rd 2020,16:40:43 )

Why would he warn you for seeking clarification? He would either say he could clarify or not. I find this really odd

Fishing is not allowed during covid lockdown, Riley


What???? In what way is that fishing?!!
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Old post #3045 posted Apr 3rd 2020, 16:58:27 Quote 
Note to self dont join games that are already underway. No mather hoe you play, you''lel be judged for actions you didnt do happened to me before.

Goodbye all
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Old post #3046 posted Apr 3rd 2020, 16:59:07 Quote 
Stay Jimmy. I still love you
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Old post #3047 posted Apr 3rd 2020, 17:00:09 Quote 
Quote ( Lech Witarczyk @ April 1st 2020,09:13:54 )

As soon as I typed I'm half/half on Seb's claim I started to believe him more. He was not really under much pressure, there was no real necessity to claim. He would not come up with the miller on his own (I think) and a buddy would probably advise him to relax. There was real danger that a real miller would counterclaim.


I pretty much agree with this
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Old post #3048 posted Apr 3rd 2020, 17:02:14 Quote 
Quote ( Ahmet Sonverdi @ April 3rd 2020,02:27:36 )

Mike I see you're 3rd on my train :D


I have no qualms about where I sit on anybody's vote train at any time regardless of alignment. I don't have the luxury of being able to follow thread & pop a vote in when it's considered 'safe'.
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Old post #3049 posted Apr 3rd 2020, 17:04:11 Quote 
That quick Tom wagon put things in a different perspective doesn't it?

Now i don't get people that play this 'lynch me i don't care' card. Both Ahmet and Jimmy done this. Ahmet came to saying we could afford a D2 myslynch, which makes no sense at all to me, sounds like bluff. And Jimmy voted himself off. That's bluff to the square.

So many bluffers... hell, i might just flip a coin again. Whatever may do.
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Old post #3050 posted Apr 3rd 2020, 17:10:43 Quote 
Quote ( Lyee Chong @ April 2nd 2020,05:16:16 )

Right, nothing solid on him as scum, but I doesnt read him as solid town as well as most of the ppl do here. That's my problem here. Nvm, you will see.


Do you have anything solid on me as scum?
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Old post #3051 posted Apr 3rd 2020, 17:10:44 Quote 
VOTE COUNT 2.7

Andre de Carvalho (0) -
Riley Dunlop (0) -
Tim Wagner (0) -
Lech Witarczyk (0) -
Jimmy De Roy (2) - Lech, Jimmy
Tom Byrne (2) - Riley, Lyee
Lyee Chong (0) -
Mike Baston (3) - Jasper, Ahmet, George
Jasper Coosemans (0) -
George Slater (1) - Sebastian
Sebastian Jóźwiak (0) -
Ahmet Sonverdi (3) - Andre, Mike, Tom

Not voting: Tim

With 12 players alive, it will require 7 votes to achieve a lynch decision. Day 2 Lynch deadline is TODAY, Friday, April 3rd, 20:00:00 CET
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Old post #3052 posted Apr 3rd 2020, 17:11:30 Quote 
Quote ( Jimmy De Roy @ April 3rd 2020,08:26:02 )

Ahmet, Mike, George you putting me on your scum list is that based on my play or Martin's?


Based on events that happened prior to you joining so yes Martin's play but also the voting at end of D1 once Kirsty's alignment showed.

You have played exactly as I remember you playing up to now.
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Old post #3053 posted Apr 3rd 2020, 17:15:22 Quote 
Quote ( Lech Witarczyk @ April 2nd 2020,11:49:14 )

Riley, and how many total scum do you think there were at the beginning of the game? 3? 4? Rather not 5, right?

Then why throughout the game you are concentrated on people outside the QT? On D1 you put Tom and Sudeep on top. Today you are voting Tom. If your best guess is 2 scum in the QT then you should have 50% chance hitting scum when voting for someone from the QT. With Kirsty dead there should be at most one scum alive outside it. Why are you not following your gut feeling?


I am concentrating on finding scum, whether they are in the QT or not. My top pick for scum in the QT is Mike as I have said previously

Outside of the QT my pick would be Tom or George. But George is s hard to get a read on because his contribution is so low - it is that low contribution that I don't like
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Old post #3054 posted Apr 3rd 2020, 17:19:08 Quote 


Quote ( Mike Baston @ April 3rd 2020,00:27:45 )

Riley just did a read back of the QT & something in there has just prompted me.

What do you think of Andre's play now after your initial view that he was 'being better this time'.

If your opinion has changed, has your reasoning as well?
If you opinion has not changed, has your reasoning for it changed?

If you're unsure it's #46 in QT & also if you want to confirm your initial reasoning in your post great otherwise I will once you've answered.


I think he was trying to be different from last time initially - he even said as much - due to the criticism

Yes I think he changed back to his old ways - but that is probably his natural place to be

Was he being different early on to stay out of the limelight? Possibly but that is not necessarily AI IMO

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Old post #3055 posted Apr 3rd 2020, 17:20:42 Quote 
Quote ( Lyee Chong @ April 3rd 2020,02:11:46 )

I am perfectly ok with Ahmet's lynch, but prefer Tom at this moment


So you would lynch either of them but leave the "fake claiming doc" alive???
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Old post #3056 posted Apr 3rd 2020, 17:23:10 Quote 

Quote ( Ahmet Sonverdi @ April 3rd 2020,02:38:09 )

and hope he loses the game regardless of alignment.


Even if he is on the same side as you?
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Old post #3057 posted Apr 3rd 2020, 17:25:34 Quote 
Quote ( Ahmet Sonverdi @ April 3rd 2020,02:26:11 )

He can't just blatantly try to leave Seb as an option after Seb's claim, that would only make Mike more suspicious. He might be taking the risk of having a narrowed-down lynch pool but certainly with more town credits.

Well, George left it on the table (after spinning around for god knows how long, but he ended up saying he still thinks Seb is scum). So evidently, one could play that way.
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Old post #3058 posted Apr 3rd 2020, 17:27:04 Quote 

Quote ( Riley Dunlop @ April 3rd 2020,17:10:43 )

Do you have anything solid on me as scum?


Quote ( Riley Dunlop @ April 3rd 2020,17:20:42 )

So you would lynch either of them but leave the "fake claiming doc" alive???

Riley, I'm sorry but I have to let you know you are very annoying.

On 1 hand you said my accusation on you are pointless, which I tried to be open minded, and let it cools down, while I also started looking around for other possibility; but on the other hand, you keep provoke me again and again for what you claimed to to be pointless.

What are you on?
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Old post #3059 posted Apr 3rd 2020, 17:27:12 Quote 

Quote ( George Slater @ April 3rd 2020,08:58:51 )

I will say this: I am not a part of a community QT (or any QT for that matter). Don't know about the others.


Pointless statement of the week
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Old post #3060 posted Apr 3rd 2020, 17:27:37 Quote 
I'll be on after the close of qualifying until the deadline.
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