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Topic: 'Finding a driver' guide for new players |
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Quote ( Shane Ferguson @ June 26th 2015,09:29:34 ) Quote ( Guy Adams @ June 26th 2015,09:26:12 )
would there really be anything too bad with limiting salary on those initial drivers to, say, a $750k maximum?
Then half the rookie drivers would all have bids of 750k..not fixing anything with that idea I do not believe
Agreed, not fixing, because not sure it can be 'fixed'. Just trying to lessen the false assumption - e.g. newbie thinking that $750k is a 'normal' salary rather than $1.5m (or whatever it is on his/her first driver currently).
Just a thought, and may well be a bad one ;)
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While this discussion is worthwhile, IMO, best to leave this Newbie thread to its intention and move the suggestion style talk to the suggestion thread, such as this one - /gb/forum/ViewTopic.asp?TopicId=25220#scroll
You're welcome :)
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How long would it take for a Driver to accept your offer? / When does he choose?\
Gr, Milan
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Driver market is mon and thur, between 19.00 and 21.00 gpro time. Decisions are made during that time :)
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Please, someone can tell me how is the system for classifying those without points.
I am in the amateur, and have zero points but I have had better ratings than others who are above me, for the average i would be ahead. Two of them have a lot less races .... I do not understand !!!
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Best result is what determines it i am afraid. he could have a 9th, and you a 10th, and he'll be above you, even if your average is say 17 and his is 26
If he has missed loads he'll be automatically retired anyway if he misses 7 in a row
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They finished 16th once. Your best result is 17th so far. So thats why they are above you
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Quote ( Eduardo Azevedo @ December 19th 2015,01:03:24 ) Please, someone can tell me how is the system for classifying those without points.
FIA regulations (this principle is used widely in motorsport)
7) DEAD HEAT
7.2 If two or more constructors or drivers finish the season with the same number of points, the higher place in the Championship (in either case) shall be awarded to :
a) The holder of the greatest number of first places.
b) If the number of first places is the same, the holder of the greatest number of second places.
c) If the number of second places is the same, the holder of the greatest number of third places and so on until a winner emerges.
d) If this procedure fails to produce a result, the FIA will nominate the winner according to such criteria as it thinks fit.
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Signed a new driver tonight, was looking for him for a while. He was 69 OA when signed, and 70 now after first training. I bought him with the expectation that he would not reach more than 85 OA before the season ends, since I want him for next season after the reset.
He has all the skills I was looking for, even though the OA was 69.
Am I seeing it correctly, that the possibility of him going over 85 OA before the reset is not likely to happen?
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It can go over 85 if motivation grows rapidly. But you can get it down by going below -15M in money.
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Loot at how the Motivation (and son also the OA) increases after the resukts in your next race. Make an estimation of how much it could continue growing, and how his OA could be at the end of the season.
By making some estimations, you could consider if he could go over 85, and then to take some measure to try to avoid it (not training him, or not pursuint the first place, for isntance). Just plan a little ahead. With a 15 points margin, I think he could be 'saved' ^^
But of course, the 'money trick' is always the option if you don't want to care about other measures (but you might also want to start the next season with some Motivation, for instance if you plan to race for promotion since the beginning).
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How do people get drivers over the OA allowed? For example I've stepped up to amateur but some people have drivers 133 and higher? I can't buy anyone over 110? Am I missing something? Is there a trick to buying someone straight up over the allowed OA?
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Wade they would have signed them for 2 seasons while the OA was still 110 or below and developed them from that point.
It is only in rookie that you lose your driver if they exceed the OA limit at season reset. In higher classes you keep your driver until his contract expires (unless you relegate).
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Hey guys,
I just signed up today. I have looked into joining before but didn't so I have read some of the materials.
One concern I have is I have got a new driver who is an 85. He is very high talent and low on everything else. I was thinking of not signing up to any of the last two races, but I was curious how his talent would help him.
My worry now is that the race may increase him to over 85, and then at the end of the season I will lose him.
Can anybody advise me on this please?
Jon.
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Quote ( Andrei Ciuchi @ July 5th 2016,05:05:44 ) Hello Jon, Hello mate. :-)Quote ( Andrei Ciuchi @ July 5th 2016,05:05:44 ) You should give the mentor program a go. They can help you. How dare you! Yes I've had a bad season, but no need to take the piss mate!Quote ( Jon Campbell @ July 4th 2016,22:34:49 ) Can anybody advise me on this please? As Andrei has said, get yourself setup on the mentor programme. :-) I'd also advise joining in on chat (most nights) as you will get more advice on there than you will ever get on the main forums. :-)
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@ Jon C - just don't take driver advice from Jon D - he has shocking choice in drivers ;)
And don't believe a word he will say about me suggesting that driver to him - it's all lies I tell you!!!!
:p
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Hi Jon C,
OK, Jokes aside for the moment, I will answer a couple of things.
Quote ( Jon Campbell @ July 4th 2016,22:34:49 ) My worry now is that the race may increase him to over 85, and then at the end of the season I will lose him.
Possibly, you are correct, depending upon his attributes & the gain in Exp., & T.I from 2 Races.
He will gain motivation, but you can wipe that out before Silverstone by going DEEP negative (at least -$15 million)
As you are going to earn ~$7 million in R17, I would suggest going -$23 million before Silverstone, & you may be able to keep him.
But;
Quote ( Jon Campbell @ July 4th 2016,22:34:49 ) One concern I have is I have got a new driver who is an 85. He is very high talent and low on everything else.
In all seriousness "Why keep him ??"
1; For a Long Term Plan starting in Rookie, 24yo is Old.
2; Fat, needs 2 Seasons Training just to get to acceptable weight.
3; Very Expensive @$1 million salary.
I suggest you stay with your "Gut feeling" that High Talent is Good.
IMO, Look for an 18yo as Cheap as possible, & sign him before Silverstone, ready to train next Season, & go Promo to Amateur in S55.
If you need advice on the Drivers you find, feel Free to PM me with the Link, so I can have a look for you.
Cheers.
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I found mine in the market :)
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Quote ( Andrew Wilden @ July 5th 2016,11:15:59 ) In all seriousness "Why keep him ??"
1; For a Long Term Plan starting in Rookie, 24yo is Old.
2; Fat, needs 2 Seasons Training just to get to acceptable weight.
3; Very Expensive @$1 million salary.
I suggest you stay with your "Gut feeling" that High Talent is Good.
IMO, Look for an 18yo as Cheap as possible, & sign him before Silverstone, ready to train next Season, & go Promo to Amateur in S55.
If you need advice on the Drivers you find, feel Free to PM me with the Link, so I can have a look for you.
I would actually not really advise this. If you're new, trying to train a driver up from scratch on top of learning all the other elements of this rather complex game might be a step too far. Certainly considering there are certain weaknesses a young driver can bring, which might be difficult to overcome without fairly decent knowledge of the game. My advise would be to experiment with drivers, find out which skills are more important and move on from there, with a view to maybe one day train up a driver, but maybe not right away, as you most likely don't even know what to train yet.
And "high talent is good" is not always the case really, it depends on what you want from a driver. In fact high talent can be quite a nuisance.
Quote ( Andrew Wilden @ July 5th 2016,11:15:59 ) 2; Fat, needs 2 Seasons Training just to get to acceptable weight.
I wouldn't worry too much about this particular point either ;)
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Jon D just got relegated.
Jon C, the good news is that you are approaching the game the right way. Read, read some more, keep reading, and if you got bored then read all of my posts in chronological order.
Some of the stuff you'll read is a sack of Jon D, so keep an eye out for those making unsubstantiated claims.
Jon D is a god. That is clearly evidenced by reality.
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Hi guys,
one question:
How can I train and increase the stamina value of my driver?
Thanks
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If you look at the training options,one should stand out.
You also can get stamina by performing a certain expensive action between races.
How have you raced over 50 gp's,and promoted,and not know this?
Good for you dude..lol
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I got driver with 225 Talent and 123 technical insight overall 76 ( with 0 motivation ), everything else is pretty much around 0-30, now developing his concentration since its only 44, is this good option to go for next season from rookie to amateur? ( pilot should not reach 85 by the end ) because ill just go with 0 motivation and next season continue developing his skills same way but going to promote as well and by the end of this season I should have around 100 concentration, and if I continue going just same way just full concentration by the end of next I should have around 180 conc, but that will be neccesary so ill develop some other things into him perhaps stamina, is this a good option?
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I'd say that is a good basis. Technical might be a little on the high side but is manageable.
My personal advice is yeah train conc but only till its 100. Then put it all into stamina. You will yield much better results from stamina training. You should hit 100 by around race 11-12 so after that train stamina and that should be around 50 by the time you should hopefully promote next season. Good luck :)
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I disagree with Kyle. Most of the time, to counter the fact that Yoga training reduces stamina, you want your driver at an optimal amount of concentration before you start training stamina, otherwise it's effectively wasted money. And 100 concentration should definitely not be your finishing point as that is not enough for higher tiers. Then again, although it won't be difficult to retain starting on 0 stamina in Amateur I don't think, I do think it will be difficult to promote from Rookie with that, depending on the group and risks you use.
With what I said above, starting with such low concentration is always a hassle as really you need to train it first. And to go 2 seasons with no stamina training might be a hindrance, and certainly imo a waste of time when most of the time there are drivers on the market similarly priced with much more starting concentration. The more concentration it starts with, the earlier you can start training stamina and get those serious pace gains.
But finding out the best training path for a driver is imo quite a fun thing to do on this game, so try what you like and learn what you would have done differently if it doesn't go to plan :)
I've had a few project drivers and am always learning to do things differently, even after 30 seasons :)
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I would like the talent to be lower, to allow higher other skills. I think for a relatively new manager that would be an easier approach.
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Quote ( Jukka Sireni @ June 8th 2017,14:04:13 ) I would like the talent to be lower, to allow higher other skills. I think for a relatively new manager that would be an easier approach.
I agree, something around 110-150 should be enough for amateur.
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Quote ( Josh Clark @ June 8th 2017,14:01:52 ) But finding out the best training path for a driver is imo quite a fun thing to do on this game, so try what you like and learn what you would have done differently if it doesn't go to plan :)
I've had a few project drivers and am always learning to do things differently, even after 30 seasons :)
That indeed is part of the fun
Furthermore, it could be said that there is no single correct way to proceed.
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