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Duncan Steele
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Old post #1 posted Nov 13th 2013, 10:22:36 Quote 
Do you believe that the prize money should be as close as they are.

Example, Amateur, you are only looking about $250,000 between places.

I am suggesting, have it more Normal Motor sport style.

High finish = high points / Money with bigger gaps and with a small amount of difference at the bottom.

Example in Amateur, you could have a difference between 1st and 2nd of 1.5mill, instead of $250,000 and last might be $20,000 between places.

What do you think?


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Old post #2 posted Nov 13th 2013, 10:26:50 Quote 
Bottom half finishes would prove unviable for nearly all financial models, and cars would start smoking so much earlier in seasons. Not going to happen.
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Old post #3 posted Nov 13th 2013, 10:27:53 Quote 
Could you not then just increase the top money to compensate?
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Old post #4 posted Nov 13th 2013, 10:28:41 Quote 
Stay the same imo :)
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Old post #5 posted Nov 13th 2013, 10:33:42 Quote 
Quote ( Duncan Steele @ November 13th 2013,10:27:53 )

Could you not then just increase the top money to compensate?

Changes that add new money into the game very very rarely ever get made; this is a financial management game, so anything that makes things easier, in any way, typically gets a big fat NO.
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Old post #6 posted Nov 13th 2013, 10:52:05 Quote 
Quote ( Duncan Steele @ November 13th 2013,10:22:36 )

Example, Amateur, you are only looking about $250,000 between places.



150k even
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Old post #7 posted Nov 13th 2013, 10:58:53 Quote 
I agree with Winkley here.

Why does every one have a topic open for more cash insentives or more cash payouts or whatever the case may be?

I'm not just saying this because I have enough $ every season to do with what ever I please ingame. I'm bloody rubbish at cash management ingame and have to make due with the scraps I get same as every one else.

The point I'm trying to make is the cash system is what it is, so we need to make due with what we get.

If you want more cash, win more races ;)
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Old post #8 posted Nov 13th 2013, 11:05:08 Quote 
I myself have not had an issue with money, but looking at a more risk / reward strategy. Push that little bit harder, wear those parts a little bit more and get rewarded.

But going on the pole so far. I may be out on a limb with a few fellow Managers.

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Old post #9 posted Nov 13th 2013, 11:59:12 Quote 
NO..the rich get richer etc. Keeping it close maintains tighter competition.
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Old post #10 posted Nov 13th 2013, 12:01:52 Quote 
Quote ( Aaron Hughes @ November 13th 2013,11:59:12 )

NO..the rich get richer etc. Keeping it close maintains tighter competition.

I can count on you when the revolution comes. :)
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Old post #11 posted Nov 13th 2013, 12:22:12 (last edited Nov 13th 2013, 12:23:17 by Sion Francis) Quote 
Quote ( Michael Winkley @ November 13th 2013,10:33:42 )

Changes that add new money into the game very very rarely ever get made;


Tell that to Avonn.

(But yes, I agree that there is enough money in the game. Whatever amount of money there is, you can only make money when the competition is playing sub optimally, hence why amateur is such a cash cow).
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Old post #12 posted Nov 13th 2013, 12:30:59 Quote 
Avonn have just taken the stack them high sell them cheap approach to their first season in the business. Once they become established you can guarantee that they push for higher margins on their sales.
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Old post #13 posted Nov 13th 2013, 12:41:55 (last edited Nov 13th 2013, 12:42:41 by Fran Betancort) Quote 
Another thread asking for more money??? lol

I think the money sistem is fine as it is, and now from Pro until Elite you also have Avonn to help, why do we really need more money?

as I said in the other thread, what we need is to learn how to manage well the meney we have, and not asking for more every time.
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Old post #14 posted Nov 13th 2013, 13:37:33 Quote 
If the price money should be changed I would like to see it get lower.
Why make it easier to get money?
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Old post #15 posted Nov 13th 2013, 13:49:43 Quote 
at op.
1st equals 14million
40th equals 6million.

top results are earning over double. thats amatuer. what u complaining about i honestly dont understand.
what the heck are u ppl spending it on that u need more?
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Old post #16 posted Nov 13th 2013, 13:51:32 Quote 
Quote ( Mg Rensburg @ November 13th 2013,13:49:43 )

at op.
1st equals 14million
40th equals 6million.

top results are earning over double. thats amatuer. what u complaining about i honestly dont understand.
what the heck are u ppl spending it on that u need more?


In Amateur, isnt it 12 Millions ? :/
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Old post #17 posted Nov 13th 2013, 13:54:30 Quote 
Quote ( Fran Betancort @ November 13th 2013,12:41:55 )

Another thread asking for more money??? lol

I think the money sistem is fine as it is, and now from Pro until Elite you also have Avonn to help, why do we really need more money?

as I said in the other thread, what we need is to learn how to manage well the meney we have, and not asking for more every time.


I think the request was to make gaps in prize money smaller on the lower ends of a group, and increase them as one goes higher, not changing extreme values, something that will decrease money in the system, so what are you talking about? :)

That said, its not really necessary
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Old post #18 posted Nov 13th 2013, 13:55:49 Quote 
I change for a little more money the sponsors.
Maybe start with a option for every manager to choice 1 sponsor for all season with different levels of payment(1kk max) and duration(17 max) before the first race start (like the tyres choice). And then look for more sponsors.
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Old post #19 posted Nov 13th 2013, 13:59:56 Quote 
I would just like any suggestions about increasing money just be closed by admin instantly :)

Its a management game , so we need to learn how to manage our resources :)

That said i suck at managing my money so please don't try to call me biased :)
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Old post #20 posted Nov 13th 2013, 14:00:19 Quote 
First and foremost it's a money management game. If you can't manage what you earn now you would just spend the extra if you got it!

Sometimes you have to prioritize what you spend the cash on and that's what makes it more difficult and thus more interesting.
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Old post #21 posted Nov 13th 2013, 14:01:19 Quote 
sry, my bad. dont where memory was. its still dbl though.
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Old post #22 posted Oct 30th 2020, 10:02:24 Quote 
Something has been bothering me for a little while, and I can't see any logic in it. Why does Rookie prize money follow a logical, "nice round numbers" path, but once you hit AMA, there are random digits all over the place?!

If all groups followed the rookie model, things would look a lot nicer IMO. The differences would be:

AMA: $150k per place
PRO: $187,5k per place
MAS: $225k per place
ELI: $275k per place

With double the above values between 1st and 2nd.

Is there a reason for the extra $4.5k per place in Elite? Is there any hope of it ever being changed?
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Old post #23 posted Oct 30th 2020, 10:55:51 Quote 
Hi Mark. The numbers aren't random. In the past I wondered about how it was calculated as well and I managed to figure out the formule for it.

In Pro and above, you need better carlevels and more expensive tyre choices which cost a lot more money. For a lot of players Amateur is the place where people get their money and Pro and higher is is where they mostly spent it.
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Old post #24 posted Oct 30th 2020, 11:17:05 Quote 
Quote ( Frederik Broux @ October 30th 2020,10:55:51 )

Hi Mark. The numbers aren't random. In the past I wondered about how it was calculated as well and I managed to figure out the formule for it.

Yeah; I've got the formula, it's just a little bit odd to me, that's all.
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