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Topic: Football World 2016 [S2 - COMPLETED] |
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Quote ( Nate Lung @ April 30th 2016,06:31:28 ) I'm considering how to possibly add slightly more complex things such as: 4 2 3 1 4 2 2 2 4 1 2 3
I'm a bit conservative about football tactics so I'd prefer to keep them like 4-5-1, 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 respectively =P I don't think what you're proposing changes the core of the game, just the way we send: we still have the 50 points range to adjust the allocation, but instead of putting values in 3 areas, we'll choose one for all old 3. I'm open to any changes in the format if it's easier for you to do all the AI and player matches in one submission but I'll play anyways so do what's best to keep the game running.
It looks interesting the form/morale effect. I'd suggest that gain could be higher if a low ranked team beats one higher ranked and the higher ranked beating a low ranked the effect is very small so there's no snowballing
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he was going Domestic, from the looks of it Pedro, so the international stage will be put to one side for the time being on would assume.
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I'm cool with domestic. Maybe building the English League top to bottom? I would totally go for that.
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Quote ( Pedro Freire @ April 30th 2016,09:40:50 ) I'm a bit conservative about football tactics
Scotland played a 5-5-0 fairly recently and Barcelona used to play 2-1-4-3-0 a couple of season's ago (2 CB, 1 DM, 2 WBK, 2 CM, 3 AM) :)
I think keeping traditional formations is a good idea for this game. Probably could add a couple more to the roster from what was originally available, but the original concept JB had was both simple enough and strategic enough, so you probably don't need to deviate too much Nate, I'd say the more you keep it to the original formula the better...too many more options would maybe make things more complex than needed.
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I like that.
I wouldn't mind adding in several positions, though most of the times they are covered by the three anyway. So I am so-so
Althought you just got to love a nice 3-2-2-1-2 with 1 LV, 1 CB, 1 RV, 2 DM, left and right midfielder, 1 AM and 2 wingers :)
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Quote ( Tim Wagner @ April 30th 2016,13:31:12 ) Althought you just got to love a nice 3-2-2-1-2 with 1 LV, 1 CB, 1 RV, 2 DM, left and right midfielder, 1 AM and 2 wingers :)
Don't forget the 1 in front of that, if you have Neuer. :P
Yeah, let's try and stick to the traditional stuff. :)
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#878 posted Apr 30th 2016, 15:11:00 (last edited Apr 30th 2016, 15:12:01 by Nate Lung)
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My original thought was English Leagues as well. If many players continue, i think the ability to have BPL, League Championship, and more if necessary is a good setup.
But then again, that's A TON of fixtures.(2 per week is still 19 weeks in BPL, and 23 in LC)
In that case we could just let players pick any English FA team and for 16-team tiers...
I don't mind having long seasons though. And I think stays closer to the nature of the game to base it on real league structure.
And I thing English Leagues are the way to go... Unless someone can sway enough people to do a different country!
Edit- Like Major League Soccer! Lol
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I referee football as well. No matches for me today though.
I'd prefer to stick with the original game as much as possible. I'm willing to do the original Football World with all the AIs and stuff (with some help if possible) for at least the next couple of weeks to keep it going. Not sure how long I could keep it going, but I would do my best.
As far as Nates ideas go, I think picking FA teams works. I dont think it matters who is originally in each league, as pro/rel would work that out over time. Having the cups would be fantastic as well. I would also be willing to help with this game if Nate needed.
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Quote ( Nate Lung @ April 30th 2016,15:11:00 ) In that case we could just let players pick any English FA team and for 16-team tiers...
Sounds good. As long as it's not too much work for you, mate.
Quote ( Tim Riddell @ April 30th 2016,16:01:39 ) I dont think it matters who is originally in each league, as pro/rel would work that out over time.
I agree.
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I will keep playing in every format you decide. I like Nate's idea a lot
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#883 posted Apr 30th 2016, 21:19:19 (last edited Apr 30th 2016, 21:21:42 by Nate Lung)
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Of course I'd keep AT LEAST the FA Cup! Lol
@Tim: I know Kevin Buis is also interested in helping out. I am kinda starting to like the possibility of this league format, though, so depending on people's desired participation level, you guys could run Football World simultaneously to me running Football League...
So would you guys want to be able to pick, say, any team in the top 4-5 levels of the FA?
Starting divisions could be determined by World Ranking from Football World.
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Quote ( Nate Lung @ April 30th 2016,21:19:19 ) So would you guys want to be able to pick, say, any team in the top 4-5 levels of the FA?
Either down to League Two or National League works for me. :)
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Quote ( Nate Lung @ April 30th 2016,21:19:19 ) So would you guys want to be able to pick, say, any team in the top 4-5 levels of the FA? I'd say wait until you see how much interest, if you have up to 20 or more than 32, make a league based on any country. Anything between that I think a superleague divided in two conferences (with playoffs with the MLS/NBA system) choosing any real team would be the best choice.
I would play any of the options given though by anyone though, the game is too good for a simple participant to bother on the league format
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Quote ( Cristian Morales @ May 1st 2016,01:56:05 ) the game is too good for a simple participant to bother on the league format
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#887 posted May 1st 2016, 04:56:47 (last edited May 1st 2016, 04:57:17 by Nate Lung)
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I'm not sure yet if I like this format for this game... but one of my favorite structures is a bunch of 8-team tiers. It allows for shorter seasons and therefore quicker 'turnover' in teams changing divisions.
In example, for 40 teams: instead of two, 20-team levels, you would end up with 5 levels in the pyramid.
This way, there can be some CPUs at the bottom to fill gaps, and the players actually caring about the game will eventually end up battling it out in the top couple divisions(real players will have advantage over CPUs in matches. Not guaranteed wins, but advantages).
Im not really sure if I like the american sports structure idea. If you really want that, just play ISL.
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Yeah, probably 8-team tiers is too low. But, like Cristian said, I won't really care what the league format is. The game is awesome and that's all that matters.
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#889 posted May 1st 2016, 22:30:22 (last edited May 1st 2016, 23:06:50 by Nate Lung)
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With a couple tweaks to the formula... I'm now tempted to allow any desired formation of DEF - MID - FWD.
However, just for the sake of reason: I'd probably say you can't have more than 6 players at one position.
Thus, 6-0-4, 2-6-2, etc would be allowed. (And 0-4-6... but good luck stopping the other team.)
Edit- Still a slight hiccup in the system. However, this image could provide you with several things: • A sneak-peak at what match results MIGHT look like. (Don't you worry, Ill be adding a bit of color to it.) • A possible hint at what might be to your advantage in this game. (But as I said, a slight hiccup, so don't TRUST anything on this image. It might suggest certain things, but by no means clarifies anything for certain.)
(As you might assume, Tottenham went with more of a possession strategy, while Leicester went with a counter-attack strategy. But I won't tell you how much.)
http://i.imgur.com/9W6LnTI.png
How would you interpret this though? Tottenham took 3 shots at their own net? Of which Lloris only stopped 1?(And thus, the -2?)
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So... I have everything ready. The simulator, the text for the topic post, etc.
But I just remembered that the way the game is supposed to work is to have a submission for the first half, then allow for a change at half time.
I'm guessing you want that ability to change tactics, right?
It will probably just take me a couple more days to redistribute the formulas.
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I protest at that result. :)
Take your time, Nate. It should be worth the wait, I'm sure. :)
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It would be a bit too many PMs, probably.
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Ah, but I don't need to send to those who have already joined ;)
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Only if it doesn't take too much of your time then, gamemaster. :)
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Nate has opened Football League, but I'm willing to (at least for a few weeks) continue football world. I've got all the info I need to start working on this.
In order for me to do this, I'm considering going to only one submission per game. I'm willing to listen to objections on this one. In additions, reminder PMs would be limited at best.
I won't be able to produce such great graphics like Beagles did. I'd probably go text, something like USA 2 - Mexico 0. USA 2 SOG, 2 On Target, Mexico 5 shots, 1 on Target. I can put formations in there as well if that would help.
All draws would remain the same, but we would probably just go with friendlies for a while. If needed, we could relax the +- 10 rank rule for friendlies. I may even randomly assign friendlies between active players. Then we could resume the continental championships and then the world cup.
Finally, if someone submits points that don't add up to 50, the difference (either positive or negative) gets adjusted to the midfielders. I'm not familiar with tourney points, so they may go away unless someone can explain them to me.
I can't promise it will be exactly like Beagles' version, but it should be close. Let me know your thoughts and if you're interested in playing. I'll be without internet until next Friday, and by then I should have a better idea of how I'm going to run this thing.
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So why exactly just one submission per game? I'm trying to understand that.
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I'm not really sold either way. I could live with either.
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Quote ( Andrei Ciuchi @ May 6th 2016,21:27:01 ) So why exactly just one submission per game? I'm trying to understand that.
Because he's American... we tend to be more satisfied when events go by quicker. In example, for me, I like playing FIFA video games because promotion/relegation can happen every week or so(when Im playing consistently). It just makes things more exciting.
One submission per match = game goes by quicker.
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OK, lets try this out. This first round of games will be completely meaningless except to give me experience in running this game and making sure everything runs smoothly. Thus there will be no impact on world rankings.
Here is the form to submit points:
http://goo.gl/forms/kVRIABDQtY
Fixtures this week:
Brazil v Germany England v Netherlands Ecuador v Austria Wales v Bhutan Poland v Croatia Iceland v Ghana Norway v Tonga Oman v Hungary Romania v Turkey Greece v Czech Republic
MORE FIXTURES TO COME
Tentative deadline is racetime on Tuesday.
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