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Pat Madigan
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Old post #331 posted Mar 11th 2016, 22:52:21 Quote 
Quote ( Mikko Heikkinen @ March 11th 2016,22:42:10 )

Definately not.

When or if I choose to use the boost laps it's my business, no-one elses.


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Old post #332 posted Mar 11th 2016, 22:58:06 Quote 
Quote ( Pat Madigan @ March 11th 2016,22:52:21 )

Quote ( Mikko Heikkinen @ March 11th 2016,22:42:10 )

Definately not.

When or if I choose to use the boost laps it's my business, no-one elses.

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+1 for me too, but it should be somewhere on the race analysis page.
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Old post #333 posted Mar 11th 2016, 22:58:52 Quote 
Do the lap boost used be store somewhere in the past-race screen, like the other race data?

It seems I am unable to find them..
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Old post #334 posted Mar 11th 2016, 23:00:43 Quote 
Quote ( Frederik Broux @ March 11th 2016,22:58:06 )

+1 for me too, but it should be somewhere on the race analysis page.

Race analysis page has barely visible red marking on each beginning lap of boosting.
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Old post #335 posted Mar 11th 2016, 23:00:49 (last edited Mar 11th 2016, 23:01:08 by Kyle Morris) Quote 
Quote ( Lucas Lobico @ March 11th 2016,22:58:52 )

Do the lap boost used be store somewhere in the past-race screen, like the other race data?

It seems I am unable to find them..


The lap you stated the boost will start is outlined in red to show it

EDIT: Helga pipped me xD
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Old post #336 posted Mar 11th 2016, 23:03:47 Quote 
Poor engine :)
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Old post #337 posted Mar 11th 2016, 23:06:22 Quote 
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Quote ( Frederik Broux @ March 11th 2016,22:58:06 )

+1 for me too, but it should be somewhere on the race analysis page.
Race analysis page has barely visible red marking on each beginning lap of boosting.

Thanks Helga, now I see :-)
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Old post #338 posted Mar 11th 2016, 23:06:24 (last edited Mar 11th 2016, 23:09:30 by Mikko Heikkinen) Quote 
Quote ( Helga Heinävesi @ March 11th 2016,23:00:43 )

Race analysis page has barely visible red marking on each beginning lap of boosting.


the visibility of it could be a bit stronger


Quote ( Phil Maunder @ March 11th 2016,21:44:27 )

I'm getting old and couldn't remember without flipping back to the race setup screen


There is this modern invention called "notepad". Maybe your computer has it :)

You could have it open in the corner of your screen to aid your memory.
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Old post #339 posted Mar 11th 2016, 23:08:55 (last edited Mar 11th 2016, 23:09:19 by Mikko Heikkinen) Quote 
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Old post #340 posted Mar 11th 2016, 23:09:59 Quote 
Quote ( Mikko Heikkinen @ March 11th 2016,22:42:10 )

Quote ( Jim Sikma @ March 11th 2016,22:18:04 )

The lap times popup should change color when someone is on a boost.
Quote ( Josh Clark @ March 11th 2016,22:18:28 )

Make the car spit fire on the boost laps? :P

Definately not.

When or if I choose to use the boost laps it's my business, no-one elses.


We all see when you choose to pit or if tires are worn. Why would we hide the boost?
We can probably already tell by comparing lap times, this would just speed that process along so someone does not have to spend several hours tracking lap times.
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Old post #341 posted Mar 11th 2016, 23:12:41 Quote 
Jim is right.
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Old post #342 posted Mar 11th 2016, 23:15:07 (last edited Mar 11th 2016, 23:16:06 by Mikko Heikkinen) Quote 
Quote ( Jim Sikma @ March 11th 2016,23:09:59 )

We all see when you choose to pit or if tires are worn. Why would we hide the boost?

First of all, that's false. You don't choose to pit if tyres are worn, you should know that. IF tyres are worn to rims, you pit anyways automatically, not by choice.

Boost is completely different, you choose which laps you use it on.


Quote ( Jim Sikma @ March 11th 2016,23:09:59 )

We can probably already tell by comparing lap times, this would just speed that process along so someone does not have to spend several hours tracking lap times


That is exactly the point. IF you want to "spy" others, do the legwork yourself. There's no reason for it to be done for you
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Old post #343 posted Mar 11th 2016, 23:21:38 Quote 
I'm happy for GPRO to hide my bank balance from everyone else, since the choices that I make with my money are my choices thus not anyone else's business.
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Old post #344 posted Mar 11th 2016, 23:21:51 Quote 
Playing this game shouldn't need to be a part-time job.

Data should be more easily found for growth of the game and all that.
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Old post #345 posted Mar 11th 2016, 23:27:27 Quote 
Maybe Vlad can offer two alternative GPROs: Basic for those willing to learn everything quickly and Enhanced for those preferring a deeper game.
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Old post #346 posted Mar 11th 2016, 23:31:22 (last edited Mar 11th 2016, 23:34:04 by Mikko Heikkinen) Quote 
Quote ( Jim Sikma @ March 11th 2016,23:21:51 )

Playing this game shouldn't need to be a part-time job.

Data should be more easily found for growth of the game and all that.

It's not part-time job (unless you make it such)


Your data is easily available for you as it should be.

My data should NOT be easily available for everyone.


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Old post #347 posted Mar 11th 2016, 23:31:54 Quote 
Quote ( Mikko Heikkinen @ March 11th 2016,23:31:22 )

Your data is easily available for you as it should be.

My data should NOT be easily available for everyone.


Totally agree with this
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Old post #348 posted Mar 11th 2016, 23:34:05 Quote 
If it happened during the race it should be public knowledge.

We know when you pit.
We know when your tires are worn.
We know when you have a technical issue.

Why shouldn't we know when you used a boost?
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Old post #349 posted Mar 11th 2016, 23:34:56 Quote 
Do your own homework.

Take a look at my race replay and tell me when I used my boost laps?!
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Old post #350 posted Mar 11th 2016, 23:38:02 Quote 
Quote ( Jim Sikma @ March 11th 2016,23:34:05 )

Why shouldn't we know when you used a boost?


Can't you simply look at lap times? Maybe it's not always evident, but it may work.
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Old post #351 posted Mar 11th 2016, 23:39:42 (last edited Mar 11th 2016, 23:44:38 by Mikko Heikkinen) Quote 
Quote ( Jim Sikma @ March 11th 2016,23:34:05 )

If it happened during the race it should be public knowledge.

We know when you pit.
We know when your tires are worn.
We know when you have a technical issue.

Why shouldn't we know when you used a boost?


2 reasons:

1) as it turns out, it's not public knowledge even when it was in the race (otherwise you wouldn't be asking for it)

2) Because not all is public. There are also private things.

Just a couple examples: The tyre compounds used are not public, the fuel amounts are not public.

sure, you could investigate and make estimations, but the exact information is not published.

But in my life I've grown weary of people who has 0 grasp of the concept of public/private, and working out things for themselves, so I think I there's not much point in trying to explain those concept to you either, it's usually an exercise in futility.

The summary remains: My data is my data, you have your own data.

IF you wanna try to investigate to find out be my guest, but don't expect everything just to be handed on a silver plate with a golden spoon.
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Old post #352 posted Mar 11th 2016, 23:55:44 Quote 
Quote ( Jim Sikma @ March 11th 2016,23:34:05 )


We know when you pit.
We know when your tires are worn.
We know when you have a technical issue.

Why shouldn't we know when you used a boost?


We don't know your tyres (except by deducing).
We don't know your fuel.
We don't know your risks (closest equivalent to boost).
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Old post #353 posted Mar 11th 2016, 23:56:53 Quote 
All in all, it seems to me that the boost effect is not very noticeable. But it's early days, lets see some other tracks and situations.
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Old post #354 posted Mar 11th 2016, 23:57:38 Quote 
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Old post #355 posted Mar 12th 2016, 00:11:32 Quote 
I noticed the boost efect in my laptimes, almost 0.5 s faster, when not blocked. I overtook the blocker during the 3rd boost lap.

I didn't notice extra wear in tyres or car parts.

If there is any, it is insignificant, I think
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Old post #356 posted Mar 12th 2016, 00:19:28 Quote 
I got up to .50 too in my first stint but no real difference in the last two. It's a good feature I think. Especially if two drivers are extremely close speed wise. I'd be interested to know whether Elite managers saw a difference
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Old post #357 posted Mar 12th 2016, 00:27:41 Quote 
I saw a difference. My driver was looking down the inside but thinking better of it more often when boosting :)
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Old post #358 posted Mar 12th 2016, 00:31:11 Quote 
When reading the blurb on boost laps. It implies that the gain comes from the driver going full out qualifying mode and not a mechanical decision by the driver (similar to kers) therefore, I believe as it's related to driver and presumably risks, it ought to be hidden.

I also think correct application of strategy and boost lap selection won me the race. I think there will be plenty of people out there who may feel robbed because of it too, that's no reason to show when they're boosting.
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Old post #359 posted Mar 12th 2016, 00:36:54 Quote 
Quote ( Roland Postle @ March 12th 2016,00:27:41 )

I saw a difference. My driver was looking down the inside but thinking better of it more often when boosting :)


Lol, I thought it would be tight that high up.

Quote ( Jonathan MacLean @ March 12th 2016,00:31:11 )

I also think correct application of strategy and boost lap selection won me the race. I think there will be plenty of people out there who may feel robbed because of it too, that's no reason to show when they're boosting.


I think you are right, any feature that get's people thinking more tactically to gain an advantage is a good one IMO
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Old post #360 posted Mar 12th 2016, 00:43:32 Quote 
basically boost made my driver overtake 3 of my opponents where he struggled before. so from 10 to 7th in 3 laps. gotta love it :D
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