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Troy Carlo
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Old post #1 posted Dec 6th 2016, 21:18:45 Quote 
This is my first post after playing and supporting the game for many seasons and I feel that this should be said.

There should be a reminder about starting on the wrong tires for supporters and non-supporters. Here are my arguments for:

1. No race car has ever started with the on dry tires when they intended to start on wets. This game is supposed to be as realistic as possible.

2. This game is intended to be fun and not reminding people is simply robbing of the enjoyment. There seems to be concern about losing players and revenue and I suggest that things like this are why.

Here is my personal example. Last season I had a driver in Pro who was too advanced to sign again but I had the driver for 6 races and I knew from the previous season that if I ran a few races with a high CT risk that I could get a some points. After I was sure of avoiding relegation, I could sign a new driver to train for the rest of last season and the start of this season and try to compete to stay in Pro. Then enters "Driver Energy" to destroy that plan, my driver could no longer compete. It actually angered me quite a bit that my upper level driver was now run of the mill and the planning I had done the previous two seasons went for nothing. I was ready to quit playing the game as I felt I planned correctly but randomly the rules had changed. My team, a great group, convinced me to stay on and play out the season but in protest, I ended my support.

Last week I started to feel good about the game again. I started to put some effort into understanding driver energy and laid out a new set of plans to see how well I can do with the new rules. I rested my driver for a race bought some new parts and was excited to see how my driver raced. As I'm sure all have guessed, I didn't start on wets like I intended. I was in a rush at work and simply forgot that I needed to specify, my fault. The first thought that went through my head as I plummeted through the ranks was "I don't want to play this game anymore". Then as I though about it more I felt like a I should say something about issues like the tires and "Driver Energy" instead of thinking about quitting.

I may be rambling but my point is that simply reminding people to start on the right tires will add fun to the game. People won't go to check their results and be disgusted and turned off from the game by a simple error. I'm sure a simple error as this has been the difference between promotion or retaining and retaining or relegating. The game is hard enough as is. Penal measures should be removed and enhancements added to assist all that there plans are being carried out as they intend to keep people interested, playing, and the game viable.
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Old post #2 posted Dec 6th 2016, 21:20:30 Quote 
There is...
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Old post #3 posted Dec 6th 2016, 21:20:53 Quote 
There is a pop up, unless you disabled it?
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Old post #4 posted Dec 6th 2016, 21:23:42 Quote 
Quote ( Peter Thompson @ December 6th 2016,21:20:30 )

There is...
Quote ( Kirsty Ridley @ December 6th 2016,21:20:53 )

There is a pop up, unless you disabled it?

It's a supporter feature
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Old post #5 posted Dec 6th 2016, 21:24:19 Quote 
ohhhh, didn't realise that
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Old post #6 posted Dec 6th 2016, 21:26:30 Quote 
Quote ( Troy Carlo @ December 6th 2016,21:18:45 )

1. No race car has ever started with the on dry tires when they intended to start on wets. This game is supposed to be as realistic as possible.


Jos Verstappen started Monaco 1996 on slicks, when it was wet.
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Old post #7 posted Dec 6th 2016, 21:41:54 Quote 
Quote ( Peter Thompson @ December 6th 2016,21:20:30 )

There is...


I must have disabled it....My bad. I didn't know it existed.
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Old post #8 posted Dec 6th 2016, 21:44:29 Quote 
Quote ( Florencia Caro @ December 6th 2016,21:23:42 )

It's a supporter feature
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Old post #9 posted Dec 6th 2016, 21:46:37 Quote 
Oh, don't tell me that's the "pay-to-play" sort of supporter feature.
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Old post #10 posted Dec 6th 2016, 21:47:21 Quote 
Nope, it's JUST a supporter feature :)
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Old post #11 posted Dec 6th 2016, 21:49:54 Quote 
Quote ( Daniel Mason @ December 6th 2016,21:46:37 )

Oh, don't tell me that's the "pay-to-play" sort of supporter feature.

It's a perk, for paying every race. Guess if it helps keep ppl supporting, it's all good :)
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Old post #12 posted Dec 6th 2016, 21:50:56 Quote 
GO provides exactly what you're asking for supporter or not ;)
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Old post #13 posted Dec 6th 2016, 21:55:42 Quote 
what if you're a complete moron and wish to start on the wrong tyres? And then swap to the wrong ones when the weather dries up? Cant us supporters just get the actual weather forecast? Please? I'll give beer?
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Old post #14 posted Dec 6th 2016, 22:06:20 Quote 
I'm disagree dear troy. You are supposed to check all the alternatives when you guns your strategy, just like in the previous race you could leave with rain tires or dry according to the race plan.
So beyond being a paid feature, I think there is also some responsibility of the manager do not you think?
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Old post #15 posted Dec 6th 2016, 22:14:10 Quote 
Troy a lot on here use go organizer which does have a warning regardless of supporter status
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Old post #16 posted Dec 6th 2016, 22:16:27 Quote 
Quote ( Troy Carlo @ December 6th 2016,21:18:45 )

2. This game is intended to be fun and not reminding people is simply robbing of the enjoyment.


I think it´s fun. Every race I check a starting grid and hope some peeps will start with wrong tyres!
Too bad you are not in my group :P

But this is a kind of mistake you only made once. If you do it once you will remember this for a long time, no reminders needed :)
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Old post #17 posted Dec 6th 2016, 22:22:16 Quote 
Quote ( David Jones-Winkley @ December 6th 2016,22:14:10 )

Troy a lot on here use go organizer which does have a warning regardless of supporter status


Nice! Thank you. There is a work around
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Old post #18 posted Dec 6th 2016, 22:47:14 Quote 
As I told many times before, the easiest way to avoid all kinds of such mistakes would be full reset of setup page after a race - no wrong tires, no wrong boosts, no wrong risks.
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Old post #19 posted Dec 6th 2016, 23:01:24 Quote 
Racing history is littered with examples of teams getting it wrong...... tyres or anything else.

The good teams double and triple check everything and make no mistakes

Personally I'm really slapdash, fail to check and frequently make errors, but I do know that It's me that is crap and not the game
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Old post #20 posted Dec 6th 2016, 23:04:54 Quote 
Quote ( Daniel Mason @ December 6th 2016,21:46:37 )

Oh, don't tell me that's the "pay-to-play" sort of supporter feature.


So, you not like pay to support and make game better, your choice
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Old post #21 posted Dec 6th 2016, 23:09:34 Quote 
Support the game and make Supporter status with more benifits !!
If you dont support,,, STOP MOANING !
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Old post #22 posted Dec 6th 2016, 23:18:45 Quote 
Quote ( Dave Sunderland @ December 6th 2016,23:09:34 )

Support the game and make Supporter status with more benifits !!
If you dont support,,, STOP MOANING !


Just say what you mean and stop beating around the bush Dave..... need another Whiskey? :D
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Old post #23 posted Dec 6th 2016, 23:58:34 Quote 
Quote ( Troy Carlo @ December 6th 2016,21:18:45 )

This game is supposed to be as realistic as possible.


And in real life someone is still responsible for making that decision.
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Old post #24 posted Dec 7th 2016, 00:06:32 Quote 
If you use GO it will warn you on the tires.

Your point about energy doesn't make much sense. You make it sound like it was introduced mid-season, and it wasn't. Most of us were caught out a bit with how big the impact I'd, but most people have learned to work through it and get good results anyway.
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Old post #25 posted Dec 7th 2016, 02:47:02 Quote 
Quote ( Virgis Lyss @ December 6th 2016,22:47:14 )

As I told many times before, the easiest way to avoid all kinds of such mistakes would be full reset of setup page after a race - no wrong tires, no wrong boosts, no wrong risks.


This is an awesome way to handle it!
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Old post #26 posted Dec 7th 2016, 03:21:17 Quote 
Quote ( Krzysztof Wnuk @ December 6th 2016,23:04:54 )

So, you not like pay to support and make game better, your choice


I have several young mates who cannot afford to be supporters, maybe they are in college, or younger, or live in a country where being a support is a lot of money. It is NOT that they don't want to, or don't want a better game! They do!

And, I get popups constantly for not putting on the tyres the game thinks I should have! I would have loved this 8 years ago, but now it's just another thing to ignore.
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Old post #27 posted Dec 7th 2016, 09:30:38 Quote 
I think is your fault if you do not pay attention to everything when you set your race strategy...it happened to me in the past too, but now never happenes because i pay enough attention
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Old post #28 posted Dec 7th 2016, 09:43:46 Quote 
Quote ( Troy Carlo @ December 6th 2016,21:18:45 )

There should be a reminder about starting on the wrong tires for supporters and non-supporters.


And what is next? a tool telling you that you better pick soft or medium tyre? Vlad giving you a perfect set up? fuel data?

Just pay more attention
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Old post #29 posted Dec 7th 2016, 09:54:23 Quote 
More than anything else this is a management game.
Ensuring that you check things such as starting tyres, boost lap settings, risks, fuel load etc is part of efficient management.
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