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#1 posted Jan 6th 2018, 13:00:09
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Take money bitch!!!! I hope that karma back to u cause You don't choose Robert!!! I wish u the worst !!!!
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#2 posted Jan 6th 2018, 13:06:04
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#3 posted Jan 6th 2018, 13:08:02
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I thought it was FranK Williams ?!?
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Fudge hugs !!! They are f...k bitches thats all!!!! Robert is a talent one i the milion but who the fudge is sirotkin!!!! He's got only money and nothing else
(Mod-edit: You really need a chill pill and lay off the swearing.)
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#5 posted Jan 6th 2018, 13:10:50
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Best part off it Sirotkin does NOT have money whahahha😂😂😂.
Williams is done now whahahha
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#6 posted Jan 6th 2018, 13:16:43
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Sirotkin has no money? his sponsors no money?
explain Robert B (source?)
thought he'd bring in 15Mill to Williams
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#7 posted Jan 6th 2018, 13:21:48
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Is it racism? Or political discrimination? I think its not correct to say: Robert is a talent but who is the f**king Sirotkin. Heey admins))
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#8 posted Jan 6th 2018, 13:35:49
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Quote ( Mark Van Daalen @ January 6th 2018,13:16:43 ) Sirotkin has no money? his sponsors no money?
explain Robert B (source?)
thought he'd bring in 15Mill to Williams
Yep i thought two but i read that his sponsors did not have the money like 2 days ago
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Quote ( Pawel Nowacki @ January 6th 2018,13:09:13 ) who the fudge is sirotkin this guy who was faster than Kubica in Abu Dhabi on Williams and in Paul Ricard on Renault.
Don't worry, you remember his name.
(Mod-edit: Sorry, coming through, editing F-bombs)
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He was test driver voor renauld i believe
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Quote ( Robbert Bultstra @ January 6th 2018,13:43:26 ) He was test driver voor renauld i believe
yes. Also he was a test driver of Sauber in 2014. Everyone told that Sirotkin get a place in Sauber but they hired Guthierrez in the last moment.
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I am not really surprised.
As nice as it would have been to have Robert Kubica back in F1 the tests didn´t suggest that he was the driver he was before his Rally accident.
Yes he did very well considering the circumstances but that is not what F1 is about. F1 and Williams of course want the best possible package and Sirotkin did seem to show the better performance during the tests.
Yes he has been driving these cars for a while now where Robert is still (re)learning. Do you really but your faith into somebody who is not the youngest as merely shows promise or do you take the young driver who shows promise? That is why I guess it basically came down to the financial package and anyone who thinks this shouldn´t be clearly doesn´t understand F1.
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Even Kubica said that he doesn't feel like he can do all 21 races. It's one thing doing abu dhabi but just imagine him trying to do Monaco, or a demanding track like Spain. And like Alexei said Sergey was actually faster than Robert in the test sessions and Robert was only slightly quicker than stroll but much slower than massa
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Ouch...somebody is having a bad day
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I would have preferred Di Resta got the seat tbh....I mean, he did a great job last summer with that late call-up.
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Seems like Sirotkin finally got his big break... took him only 5 years :P
Quote ( Pawel Nowacki @ January 6th 2018,13:09:13 ) but who the fudge is sirotkin!!!!
Some russian bloke who took part in two full GP2 seasons and finished 3rd in both seasons? :)
(Mod-edit: Sorry, coming through, editing F-bombs)
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im with Stu Di Resta would have been my choice
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Quote ( Pawel Nowacki @ January 6th 2018,13:09:13 ) Fudge hugs !!! They are f...k bitches thats all!!!! Robert is a talent one i the milion but who the fudge is sirotkin!!!! He's got only money and nothing else
Would you of cared if Kubica was anything other than polish, I think we all know the answer :)
Simple thing is Williams will have crunched the data and the potential for having to replace Kubica mid season when he break's down from not being physically able to do it week in week out for a 21 race season probably was a heavy factor , I don't doubt money came into the equation but that's not a new thing in F1 and certainly in this case I don't think it was the only factor :)
(Mod-edit: Sorry, coming through, editing F-bombs)
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I do fear for Williams. They are going to lose a lot of sponsorship when they have a bad season (which they will in 2018 I think). They could have done with a Brit on the team in my view even just to keep their home support up and interest in the team. I certainly won't be bothered to see how they are getting on this year without a driver of any kind of charisma on the team (which they at least had with Massa). They will most likely be one spot above STR and Sauber at the end of the season. When they lose both sponsors and general support, will probably be the end for them, or at least mean Frank sells it. Probably to a wealthy arab or something. Shame to see that team slowly decaying away, surely even they can see it. What on earth was Paddy Lowe thinking going there.
I don't think its so much surprise anyway that Kubica didn't get the seat. I'd have liked to see him there, as i'm sure others would, but if Williams think there's a high risk to him driving or whatever them i'm sure they took their decision based on a lot of facts and data at their disposal. Not just money. I really don't think Sirotkin is a better option than either Rowland or Di Resta but its up to them really. For sure they will lose a lot of interest in the team back home from having made this choice, in my opinion. I do wonder if this choice involved more money than sense though, at least with choosing Sirortkin ahead of either of the British drivers that could have filled the spot.
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I think Alfa will beat Williams with the 2018 Ferrari engine and 1 competent driver.
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They certainly could if enough investment is now going into the team.
Quote ( Sam Wainwright @ January 6th 2018,14:46:28 ) and 1 competent driver.
Well, for sure Stroll is competent...just not always. Sauber still has one problem with its roster, that being Marcus Ericsson. So, there's at least that - both Sauber and Williams have one very shit driver on their teams. The battle between Stroll and Leclere could be an interesting fight to look out for during the season for those 9th-10th place finishes. Williams will probably be grateful for any 10th they can get this year.
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Quote ( Gordon Douglas @ January 6th 2018,13:49:09 ) I am not really surprised.
As nice as it would have been to have Robert Kubica back in F1 the tests didn´t suggest that he was the driver he was before his Rally accident.
Yes he did very well considering the circumstances but that is not what F1 is about. F1 and Williams of course want the best possible package and Sirotkin did seem to show the better performance during the tests.
Yes he has been driving these cars for a while now where Robert is still (re)learning. Do you really but your faith into somebody who is not the youngest as merely shows promise or do you take the young driver who shows promise? That is why I guess it basically came down to the financial package and anyone who thinks this shouldn´t be clearly doesn´t understand F1.
Ohhh ok so they have no time to find a good driver 😂😂😂 clearly you don't understand F.
And all the other teams have deiver but only Williams 2 that are paying allot whahahaha but no we don't understand F1😂😂😂
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Quote ( Alexei Malkin @ January 6th 2018,13:48:48 ) yes. Also he was a test driver of Sauber in 2014. Everyone told that Sirotkin get a place in Sauber but they hired Guthierrez in the last moment.
Well, I heard that his sponsors, "Investment Cooperation International Fund", "State Fund of Development of North-West Russian Federation" and "National Institute of Aviation Technologies"(this one being led by his father) never declared their full intention to pay so he wasn't picked to drive.
Quote ( Stuart Foster @ January 6th 2018,14:08:12 ) I would have preferred Di Resta got the seat tbh....I mean, he did a great job last summer with that late call-up.
Wait, what? He struggled to even beat the Saubers...
Quote ( Sam Wainwright @ January 6th 2018,14:46:28 ) I think Alfa will beat Williams with the 2018 Ferrari engine and 1 competent driver.
*Sauber, there's nothing Alfa in it except the badges put on the car and the Ferrari engine.
You're spending too much time in Elite Sam :P
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So being thrown into the car with 0 running in a 2017 car outside of simulators and having 18 minutes of qualifying to get acquainted with the car and suddenly you should be good enough to beat the Saubers with a car not suited to Hungary. Di Resta was probably driver of the day for qualifying just for beating one of them
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Quote ( Kyle Morris @ January 6th 2018,15:10:15 ) Di Resta was probably driver of the day for qualifying just for beating one of them
He was British that day.
Quote ( David Jundt @ January 6th 2018,15:06:34 ) You're spending too much time in Elite Sam :P
All this means is that I moan more about the weather now :P
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Quote ( Kyle Morris @ January 6th 2018,15:10:15 ) So being thrown into the car with 0 running in a 2017 car outside of simulators and having 18 minutes of qualifying to get acquainted with the car and suddenly you should be good enough to beat the Saubers with a car not suited to Hungary. Di Resta was probably driver of the day for qualifying just for beating one of them
Getting simulator time is still a kind of training.
Well, the Saubers were TERRIBLE at any track tbh, regardless of what track the Williams suits.
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Quote ( David Jundt @ January 6th 2018,15:46:34 ) Getting simulator time is still a kind of training.
Yeah, just not a human to human kind, eh...
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Still, not sure why I should be impressed that he beat the Saubers.
If his name was Chanoch Nissany or Vadim Kogay, I probably would've been.
But I imagine a Sirotkin would've done that aswell.
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Flailing Koala Williams? Im confused..
Stop acting like Sirotkin wasn't the favorite to get the drive,since I dunno, first week in december.. Your hatred is about a month too late..
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