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#1 posted Jan 14th 2018, 15:59:51
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Goodmorning everyone. I wanted to know what do you think about my request to Vladimir to do a market session of pilots and dt also on saturday or sunday to add to monday and thursday. Thank you to everyone.
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#2 posted Jan 14th 2018, 17:09:09
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I personally see no need to deviate from the rhythm of race-market-race-market by cramming an extra market deadline in there.
Two markets in a row, other than those at the season start, seems unnecessary to me.
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#3 posted Jan 14th 2018, 17:13:38
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Why should there be 2 markets before a Tuesday race then but only one before a Friday race? If that was done, people would then moan about there only being one market for a Friday, and then it would have to be two....one before each race is fine...we can all make up to 4 different driver bids if we want too don't forget...this is already plenty enough.
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Injecting 17 more markets in a season also leads to faster dropping stats of drivers that remain on the market. That might offset some (unseen) balance in the market too.
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#5 posted Jan 14th 2018, 18:26:41
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But saturday or Sunday are days in wich many managers have more free time , sometimes I can't follow the market negotiations due to my work
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#6 posted Jan 14th 2018, 19:40:23
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Quote ( Alberto Villa @ January 14th 2018,18:26:41 ) But saturday or Sunday are days in wich many managers have more free time And many managers (as well as admins) might wanna keep the weekend free, also from Gpro.
Quote ( Alberto Villa @ January 14th 2018,18:26:41 ) sometimes I can't follow the market negotiations due to my work
You don't have to be online at market deadline time. The offers you make during the days leading towards the deadline count too, just make offers that are worth the consideration of drivers/TDs
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#7 posted Jan 14th 2018, 21:22:17
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I would aprove moving one market decision from monday to sunday instead. And yes mikko: you dont have to be online during staff market deadline, but its a lot more favourable if you are and thats what he meant.
Adding an extra staff decision: NO Moving monday staff decision to sunday: YES
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#8 posted Jan 14th 2018, 21:35:51
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It is also true that if you want to check and make an offer on monday before deadline while you are working... well, its not that hard to log in for 5 minutes with your cell phone and do it. I guess there are only some jobs where you are not able to do that.
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#9 posted Jan 15th 2018, 00:07:39
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Quote ( Ivan Silva @ January 14th 2018,21:22:17 ) I would aprove moving one market decision from monday to sunday instead. And yes mikko: you dont have to be online during staff market deadline, but its a lot more favourable if you are and thats what he meant.
Adding an extra staff decision: NO Moving monday staff decision to sunday: YES Why move the market? There will always be some people who can't be online at the time market closes no matter what day it is. And as Mikko says, some people may have other things to do on the weekend. What if you go away for the weekend somewhere and come back late Sunday night? You might leave on Friday night and come back Sunday night, in which case you would miss the market altogether. Can't please everyone and having the market day before the race gives everyone the most time to place their offers.
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#10 posted Jan 15th 2018, 00:18:57
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Problem with a Sunday Market is the reset is usually on Saturday night or Sunday morning which gives no opportunity for any bidding, leaving you with the 1 on Thursday I think its fine being the day before the race. Makes more sense
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#11 posted Jan 15th 2018, 00:48:59
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Quote ( Kyle Morris @ January 15th 2018,00:18:57 ) Problem with a Sunday Market is the reset is usually on Saturday night or Sunday morning which gives no opportunity for any bidding, leaving you with the 1 on Thursday I think its fine being the day before the race. Makes more sense
So have resets on saturdays. the saturday after race 17 is dead time anyway
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#12 posted Jan 15th 2018, 00:58:14
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Still only leaves about 1 day, in a weekend, for the most important market of the season, which can decide how your entire season goes. No thanks.
I think it's good to have the market one day before the race as it is currently.
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I agree entirely with the sentiments of Kyle and Jasper. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it " 😊 Keep in mind atm the market starts at 4:00am and in our winter (European summer) it is 3:00am in my time zone. So we are always at a disadvantage regardless of the day of the week, but we simply accept that and move on with no complaints. I can understand the idea of the OP and again question why there has to be so much bullshit negativity with down thumbs
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#14 posted Jan 15th 2018, 03:08:40
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I see that leaving things as they currently are, is the best option. It is an inconvenience to someone in the world. It is not possible to accommodate the whole world. Unless, you are a flat earth believer... of course. :)
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#15 posted Jan 15th 2018, 08:35:28
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Quote ( Massimo Guerra @ January 14th 2018,15:59:51 ) Goodmorning everyone. I wanted to know what do you think about my request to Vladimir to do a market session of pilots and dt also on saturday or sunday to add to monday and thursday. Thank you to everyone.
I think this would be a great idea, as it gives managers more flexibility to browse drivers at a time that suits them.
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#16 posted Jan 15th 2018, 08:38:06
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Quote ( Alberto Villa @ January 14th 2018,18:26:41 ) But saturday or Sunday are days in wich many managers have more free time , sometimes I can't follow the market negotiations due to my work
So you don't think GPRO is part of your free time?
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#17 posted Jan 15th 2018, 12:25:39
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Quote ( Andrew Wilden @ January 15th 2018,02:14:35 ) I can understand the idea of the OP and again question why there has to be so much bullshit negativity with down thumbs
I don't believe it's negativity, it's common in GPRO that you use the thumbs to vote for a suggestion where you only have a yes and no question.
No need to change or add more markets you have enough time to do so. Thumbs down for me.
As mentioned by Andrew it is always complicated for down under and in my case its noon and it's complicated to be there but noon Sundays for me it's impossible.
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#18 posted Jan 15th 2018, 12:42:08
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While we're at the topic of markets and especially the first one of the season... how about pushing that market to Tuesday?
I've heard people left and right complaining that there is not enough time between a season reset on Sunday around 12:00 and the first market on Monday around 19:00, and they miss out on a chance to sign the best drivers. There was a discussion a while ago about extending the season break, but maybe an additional 24 hours before the first market deadline is already a big help to many.
Obviously this only concerns the first market after the season reset, not the markets throughout the rest of the season.
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#19 posted Jan 15th 2018, 12:55:09
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Good morning mine was just a proposal to add an extra day to the already existing market days and no change on Monday and Thursday ... I thought that an extra market day for example on Saturdays would not bother anyone .. one is free to say his freely
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#20 posted Jan 15th 2018, 13:06:34
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We've got two race days so to have three market days seems illogical to me. If anything, moving one of the days would be a better idea but I'm alright the way it is.
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I think the fundamental biggest problem is with a Market on Saturday then sunday then Monday, by the time Monday comes you are left with the scraps left on the market that noone would want to sign. And what's the point of having a Market everyday that's not a race day between Friday and Tuesday's race and not one on Wednesday, which again by Thursday you are left with the scraps that noone would want
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#22 posted Jan 15th 2018, 13:38:53
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Quote ( Jasper Coosemans @ January 15th 2018,12:42:08 ) While we're at the topic of markets and especially the first one of the season... how about pushing that market to Tuesday?
I've heard people left and right complaining that there is not enough time between a season reset on Sunday around 12:00 and the first market on Monday around 19:00, and they miss out on a chance to sign the best drivers. There was a discussion a while ago about extending the season break, but maybe an additional 24 hours before the first market deadline is already a big help to many.
Obviously this only concerns the first market after the season reset, not the markets throughout the rest of the season. That's not a bad idea, actually, I like it. An extra day after season reset for everyone to find time to check out the market or just to chill. Then a couple of days to look through it again if you miss out on securing your driver or TD should be enough. With the quick reset, if you have plans on the weekend you may only have the one evening on Monday to look through the market, and that may be an issue especially for those in Europe. You get home in the evening and have to quickly try to find the right driver, or TD, or both. Not much time. So yes, pushing the first staff market to Tuesdays would make sense.
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