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Tom Nan
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Old post #1 posted Oct 16th 2018, 17:50:51 Quote 
I just noticed that a driver in my AMATEUR 41 league has a rating of 136 in just one week in. He just signed a contract for 17 races. How is that possible if the maximum rating for amateur is 110??
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Old post #2 posted Oct 16th 2018, 17:53:12 Quote 
110 is the maximum OA you can hire or extend contract. You can have a driver over 110 in Amatuer as long as hr was below that threshold when signed.
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Old post #3 posted Oct 16th 2018, 18:01:50 Quote 
What's surprising?
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Old post #4 posted Oct 16th 2018, 18:06:45 Quote 
José has that same driver three seasons ago
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Old post #5 posted Oct 16th 2018, 18:08:53 Quote 
Just because he just started a 17 race contract, doesn't mean he only just signed it!
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Old post #6 posted Oct 16th 2018, 18:13:55 Quote 
Read the Guide.
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Old post #7 posted Oct 16th 2018, 18:18:00 Quote 
Tom, the driver in your amateur 41 league is spending his third season so there was enough time to train up his overall rating to 136.
The extended contracts are hidden until the active contract ends up so the souliton is that the contract was extended earlier and not now.
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Old post #8 posted Oct 16th 2018, 18:20:04 Quote 
As Simon says, he didn't just sign the contract. To renew a driver their OA must be less then 110 OA when you go to renew it, but it can be higher then that when the new contract actually starts.

This is something that should really be explained better in the game rules, because it's pretty ambiguous right now and as a basic game mechanic it doesn't really fall into the realm of FOBY.
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Old post #9 posted Oct 16th 2018, 18:29:10 Quote 
I think motivation should be removed completely from the OA calculation. This would clear up the confusion here and let everyone push to the limits every race.

We are here to race no? Lets stop having to purposely throw races to control OA and just race.
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Old post #10 posted Oct 16th 2018, 18:30:04 (last edited Oct 16th 2018, 18:31:05 by Nick Phelps) Quote 
Removing motivation gets you the base OA. Once the base OA is over the limit for your group, no more contracts until you promote.
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Old post #11 posted Oct 16th 2018, 18:41:12 Quote 
Quote ( Nick Phelps @ October 16th 2018,18:29:10 )

I think motivation should be removed completely from the OA calculation. This would clear up the confusion here and let everyone push to the limits every race.


Even without motivation a driver with 136 OA isn't going to have less then 110 OA. So I don't think it would reduce confusion at all in this case. Since extending the driver's contract, both moti as well as other skills have improved to the point where he is no longer a suitable to be contracted in ama.
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Old post #12 posted Oct 16th 2018, 18:59:25 Quote 
Quote ( George Slater @ October 16th 2018,18:41:12 )

Even without motivation a driver with 136 OA isn't going to have less then 110 OA.


I'm not disagreeing with you regarding the base OA being less than 110 with full motivation at 136 OA.

My argument is that, without motivation, the OA number will be much easier to understand and we would not have to purposely throw away races just to manipulate the OA.
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Old post #13 posted Oct 16th 2018, 19:12:02 (last edited Oct 16th 2018, 19:17:29 by Gabriel Arbona) Quote 
250 of motivation gives 21 of OA, or is a pilot with a lot of training and results, there are also many ways to encourage the driver to be motivated

Quote ( Adam Pilo @ October 16th 2018,19:15:48 )

Motivation has an impact on the speed

high impact
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Old post #14 posted Oct 16th 2018, 19:15:48 (last edited Oct 16th 2018, 19:16:11 by Adam Pilo) Quote 
Quote ( Nick Phelps @ October 16th 2018,18:59:25 )

Quote ( George Slater @ October 16th 2018,18:41:12 )

Even without motivation a driver with 136 OA isn't going to have less then 110 OA.

I'm not disagreeing with you regarding the base OA being less than 110 with full motivation at 136 OA.

My argument is that, without motivation, the OA number will be much easier to understand and we would not have to purposely throw away races just to manipulate the OA.


Motivation has an impact on the speed of the driver so why just throw it away from calculation? It's a stat like others as well!
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Old post #15 posted Oct 16th 2018, 20:04:24 (last edited Oct 16th 2018, 20:06:03 by Nick Phelps) Quote 
Quote ( Adam Pilo @ October 16th 2018,19:15:48 )

Motivation has an impact on the speed of the driver so why just throw it away from calculation? It's a stat like others as well!


I'm also not saying throw away motivation. Keep motivation, just don't have it impact the OA. Motivation still goes up and down based on driver training, race position, etc. and still has an impact on every aspect of the game as it currently does.
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Old post #16 posted Oct 16th 2018, 20:54:03 Quote 
Quote ( George Slater @ October 16th 2018,18:20:04 )

... To renew a driver their OA must be less then 110 OA when you go to renew it,...

Less or equal 110 OA is correct.
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Old post #17 posted Oct 16th 2018, 22:07:51 (last edited Oct 16th 2018, 22:08:27 by Martti Kaasik) Quote 
Quote ( Nick Phelps @ October 16th 2018,20:04:24 )

I'm also not saying throw away motivation. Keep motivation, just don't have it impact the OA. Motivation still goes up and down based on driver training, race position, etc. and still has an impact on every aspect of the game as it currently does.

That's even worse... If you work out how it works it's good to know who has motivation and who are your main competition. Motivation gives driver more speed so it is important stat to know who you are against.
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Old post #18 posted Oct 16th 2018, 22:48:00 Quote 
Quote ( Nick Phelps @ October 16th 2018,20:04:24 )

I'm also not saying throw away motivation. Keep motivation, just don't have it impact the OA. Motivation still goes up and down based on driver training, race position, etc. and still has an impact on every aspect of the game as it currently does.

OA = Over All
If you remove motivation from the calculation then it is no longer an overall rating.
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Old post #19 posted Oct 16th 2018, 22:55:48 Quote 
I have found in my career in Ammy/rook.
It is far easier to keep a driver in Ammy..

In rook you can forget money Management..(unless pushing and have the know-how)
In Ammy you should have the exp to balance the two..
I would prefer to get rid of season re-set in rook ! IE $$$'s

As talked above,, the hints are in the numbers of your driver ..
My Penny worth on a WORTH reading forum,, unlike most !
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Old post #20 posted Oct 16th 2018, 23:07:49 Quote 
Quote ( Oliver Tell @ October 16th 2018,20:54:03 )

Less or equal 110 OA is correct.


Yeah, that's right. I should have been more specific with what I was saying.
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Old post #21 posted Oct 18th 2018, 02:41:41 Quote 
Quote ( Paul Williams @ October 16th 2018,17:53:12 )

110 is the maximum OA you can hire or extend contract. You can have a driver over 110 in Amatuer as long as hr was below that threshold when signed.


DAMN! I missed this slight oversite! Lesson learned. Thanks everyone for the response (even those who were even being sarcastic).
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