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In lieu with the actual world, surely Jack Brabham has to win again? :)
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#62 posted Jul 10th 2020, 00:03:42
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BREAKING NEWS!
Lotus have been incredibly busy in the Driver's market, as they secure a real coup in bringing Stirling Moss over to them after he was forced to leave his beloved Connaught outfit thanks to their untimely demise. Meanwhile, Team Principal Mark Witney (also ex-Connaught) elects to pair youth with experience, as he signs Jim Hall also! The young American has been fast in various junior series - and the Lotus team are said to be excited about what he can do for them this season...
Meanwhile it's more of the same for BRM, who retain both Masten Gregory and Graham Hill for another season - while there are strong rumours circulating that they may retain their entire line-up from last season...though no confirmation of that from Phil Hill as yet!
Finally, Aston Martin are the lucky outfit to have swooped in to sign Ron Flockhart from Cooper - after the Brit lost his seat to the reigning champion Jack Brabham. Team Principal Josh Anderson has commented about what an asset Flockhart will be to the team, and how he looks forward to seeing him support and guide the young Jim Clark in their line-up...
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MORE BREAKING NEWS!
Scarab complete their 3-man roster with the signing of Edgar Barth; the young German will doubtless benefit from the experience of both Team Principal Stallone and González, as Scarab look to prove the doubters wrong and put together a decent championship tilt in their opening season in the series...
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F1R PLAYER (FP): Jon, we have 32 players but only 30 slots at teams. What happens to the other 2 players? JON BEAGLES (JB): Glad you asked...the other 2 will become 4th drivers. FP: But how do you decide which 2 end up as the 4th drivers? JB: The first consideration is multiplier; if any driver doesn't fit into the team picture with their multiplier total, they become a 4th driver. FP: And the second consideration? JB: Who is left over after the other bids are made... FP: What if people are trying to wait and become a 4th driver at an already full team? JB: The F1R FIA reserves the right to enforce a contract, if it is in the best interests of the series as a whole... FP: Thanks - I sure know a lot more about this situation now. JB: You are so very welcome.
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#64 posted Jul 10th 2020, 00:45:00
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Ron Flockhart has released a statement to the press in which he expresses his delight at signing a contract with Aston Martin. Ron went on to say that he believes that they have a real diamond in the young Scot Jim Clark and that he would me more than happy to pass on a few racing points
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#65 posted Jul 10th 2020, 01:00:31
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EVEN MORE BREAKING NEWS!
Porsche have been unusually quiet in this signing window thus far - but they do now confirm (to no-one's surprise) that Maurice Trintignant will spend another season fronting their championship charge - and given how close he came to the title last season, few would rule him out as a contender this time around...!
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#66 posted Jul 10th 2020, 01:36:19
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UNBELIEVABLY YET MORE BREAKING NEWS!!!
Jack Fairman confirms he will be racing for Vanwall again in 1960, which means that Carel Godin de Beaufort is now rumoured to be looking elsewhere for a seat this season - which will leave a space at Vanwall for one individual to fill...though it's anyone's guess who that will be right now!!!
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#67 posted Jul 10th 2020, 02:47:28
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ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLY EVEN MORE BREAKING NEWS!!!
(The last for this news session...)
Aston Martin complete their Driver line-up with the return of Tony Brooks to their team, which sees an exciting line-up for the British manufacturer with the experience of Brooks and Flockhart combined with the youthful exuberance of Clark, which should result in a fast combination on-track...!
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#68 posted Jul 10th 2020, 10:13:13
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Quote ( Jonathan Beagles @ July 10th 2020,02:47:28 ) ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLY EVEN MORE BREAKING NEWS!!!
(The last for this news session...)
Aston Martin complete their Driver line-up with the return of Tony Brooks to their team, which sees an exciting line-up for the British manufacturer with the experience of Brooks and Flockhart combined with the youthful exuberance of Clark, which should result in a fast combination on-track...!
Quote ( Jonathan Beagles @ January 2nd 2020,20:02:18 ) Breaking News
Lucien Bianchi meanwhile has been signed as the 3rd driver for the Cooper team, which is a good element of youth alongside the more experienced duo of Behra and Flockhart. It will be interesting to see what the young Belgian can produce this season...
This looks familiar...
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#69 posted Jul 10th 2020, 13:52:17
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Quote ( Jun Ho @ July 10th 2020,10:13:13 ) This looks familiar...
except that one is ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLY EVEN MORE....
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#70 posted Jul 10th 2020, 14:00:03
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Quote ( Tim Wagner @ July 9th 2020,00:19:39 ) Ferrari also has a Weather Station Level 4 for sales. :o
Since Aston Martin managed to sell their cheap replica, you can still get the original! :o
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#71 posted Jul 10th 2020, 14:40:41
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BREAKING NEWS!
Phil Hill re-signs for BRM to give them an unchanged line-up for the 2nd season in a row! Team Principal Janne Väänänen is said to be delighted with the stability and consistency - and looking to improve on their 5th placed finish in last season's Teams Championship!
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#72 posted Jul 10th 2020, 14:50:47
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So where will Salvadori go? He has nowhere to go!
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#73 posted Jul 10th 2020, 14:57:28
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Quote ( Jonathan Beagles @ July 10th 2020,00:14:34 ) F1R PLAYER (FP): Jon, we have 32 players but only 30 slots at teams. What happens to the other 2 players? JON BEAGLES (JB): Glad you asked...the other 2 will become 4th drivers. FP: But how do you decide which 2 end up as the 4th drivers? JB: The first consideration is multiplier; if any driver doesn't fit into the team picture with their multiplier total, they become a 4th driver. FP: And the second consideration? JB: Who is left over after the other bids are made... FP: What if people are trying to wait and become a 4th driver at an already full team? JB: The F1R FIA reserves the right to enforce a contract, if it is in the best interests of the series as a whole... FP: Thanks - I sure know a lot more about this situation now. JB: You are so very welcome.
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#74 posted Jul 10th 2020, 14:58:26
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Fair. So basically he will have to wait till they are all filled and then teams will fight for him!
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#75 posted Jul 10th 2020, 15:09:14
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Yep spot on :)
We are almost at crunch point with only 3 teams that have spaces left at them - and 2 of those teams have got part-signed contracts in my inbox already!
Then Roy and one other driver will be 4th drivers and allowed to race for any team; I have had an interesting idea in my inbox about 4th drivers not being allowed to sign for team within the Top 3 of last season's championship. I am thinking about introducing that idea for 1961 and maybe even extending that to the Top 5 teams!
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#76 posted Jul 10th 2020, 15:16:29
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Quote ( Jonathan Beagles @ July 10th 2020,15:09:14 ) I have had an interesting idea in my inbox about 4th drivers not being allowed to sign for team within the Top 3 of last season's championship. I am thinking about introducing that idea for 1961 and maybe even extending that to the Top 5 teams!
I was going to suggest something similar, that perhaps unsigned drivers should be allocated automatically starting with the lowest ranked teams, and on minimal salary (almost as if they were "privateer" entrants). I remember from Ferrari in 1958 that having four members gives a quite large advantage across a number of areas, something which the bigger teams really don't need.
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#77 posted Jul 10th 2020, 15:33:00
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I would be okay with implementing that from this season actually. I would love to have a 4th driver, but I would not want Ferrari or BRM for example to have a 4th driver when we don't.
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#78 posted Jul 10th 2020, 15:36:15
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Can I join this then please?
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#79 posted Jul 10th 2020, 15:37:34
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Top 3 from last season were Ferrari, Cooper and Porsche. Top 5 would include Maserati and BRM.
Only reason I am not keen to introduce this season, is that some Team Principals may have designed their strategy around being able to have a 4th driver...
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#80 posted Jul 10th 2020, 15:37:54
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Quote ( Sonny Long @ July 10th 2020,15:36:15 ) Can I join this then please?
Absolutely Sonny :)
PM on the way with what to do...
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#81 posted Jul 10th 2020, 15:46:29
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Quote ( Jonathan Beagles @ July 5th 2020,00:38:36 ) Please be aware that only the Top 30 drivers qualify for each race.
Just realised I hadn't included this rule (that was introduced last season) in the OP...now there so it's clear to everyone.
Adds a new dimension to qualifying...!
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#82 posted Jul 10th 2020, 15:53:44
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Quote ( Jonathan Beagles @ July 10th 2020,15:37:34 ) Top 3 from last season were Ferrari, Cooper and Porsche. Top 5 would include Maserati and BRM.
Only reason I am not keen to introduce this season, is that some Team Principals may have designed their strategy around being able to have a 4th driver...
Some really did?
I would also think lower teams would profit more from having a 4th driver. But if it's gonna be a free for all, I will certainly participate in that.
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#83 posted Jul 10th 2020, 15:59:21
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Quote ( Tim Wagner @ July 10th 2020,15:53:44 ) Some really did?
I don't know that they did - but that's the only reason I'm worried. NB - thinking about it and given how close 2nd-5th were last season, it seems unfair to do the Top 3 (too big an advantage for the 4th and 5th place teams). Gulf between 5th and 6th makes it fine to do this for the Top 5 IMO.
So; this seems like the only fair way to do it...if...
@Tim Wagner (P6) @Kyle Morris (A62) @Wopke Hoekstra (R12) @John Ibbotson (M5) @Janne Väänänen (P16)
...are all happy to introduce the '4th driver rule' (that the Top 5 teams cannot sign 4th drivers), they should post the following:
4th driver rule = APPROVED
If all 5 do that, I will introduce the rule this season.
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#84 posted Jul 10th 2020, 16:04:58
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I approve. If not for this Season, then at latest for next.
Else I'll ask Matt next Season to just not sign anything until nobody can sign him and then barge in (Half serious, but still an exploit :D)
Though, depending on team principal driver multipliers and drivers like Roy Salvadori, you might want to find a way to enable those to sign with a team even if it breaks the mutiplier... Because it sucks if you already start having such a high multiplier that nobody can sign you.
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#85 posted Jul 10th 2020, 16:14:20
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I think it's fair, I don't have a problem with it. :)
4th driver rule = APPROVED
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#86 posted Jul 10th 2020, 16:21:25
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Okay so 2/5 votes for...3 unconfirmed.
Quote ( Tim Wagner @ July 10th 2020,16:04:58 ) you might want to find a way to enable those to sign with a team even if it breaks the mutiplier... Because it sucks if you already start having such a high multiplier that nobody can sign you.
The top players get the top drivers (generally speaking), so the multiplier limit ensures that we don't end up with "super teams" where the top players get grouped together in just 2-3 teams but are rather spread out over 5-6 teams at least instead. That shares knowledge around the game and allows new players to get up to speed sooner.
As such, I'm not keen on having a way for a team to break the multiplier limit. A scenario does exist where (with less than 30 drivers) we could end up with a team being forced to break the multiplier limit - in that situation I would look to impose either a fine or a ban on signing 4th drivers for that team...though I'll cross that bridge when we come to it!
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#87 posted Jul 10th 2020, 17:27:15
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Yes, but I expect next Season Roy Salvadori will be having a multiplier of 1.6x, and the teams multiplier limit will be 3.6x
I don't know how many team principals will be having a driver of 1.00, so it could end up that Roy Salvdadori by default can't sign as a 1st-3rd driver.
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#88 posted Jul 10th 2020, 17:50:11
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MORE BREAKING NEWS!
Vanwall complete their line-up with a surprise newcomer, as de Beaufort's seat is claimed by the young Belgian Willy Mairesse! Vanwall Team Principal Mike Baston is said to be eager to improve on their tough season last time around - and reclaim their place in the Top 5 in what may well be their final season in the series...
Meanwhile, Porsche sign their 2nd driver as another newcomer finds a seat - this time it's Antonio Creus, the young Spaniard, who will make his F1R debut for the German manufacturer. He lines up alongside one of the most experienced drivers in F1R history; Maurice Trintignant - in what is already looking like an intriguing line-up with one further name to be added to that roster!
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#89 posted Jul 10th 2020, 18:06:10
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4th driver rule = APPROVED
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#90 posted Jul 10th 2020, 18:08:13 (last edited Jul 10th 2020, 18:08:38 by Jun Ho)
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Lol, didn't read it properly :D
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