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Topic: insertion of safety car, drs and second driver!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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#1 posted May 7th 2021, 20:54:11
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it would be nice if the developers introduced some new features similar to formula 1
here are my proposals:
1) safety car intrusion and inter-car accidents
2) introduction DRS
3) introduce the second car
how about?
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#3 posted May 7th 2021, 21:11:46
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#4 posted May 7th 2021, 21:29:52
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#5 posted May 7th 2021, 21:37:37
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Alright so here is my opinion on all of the above
1) Safety Car is basicly a Random 2.0 and we don't want that. Difference between F1 and GPRO is that in GPRO you predict how the race will go and in F1 you react to how the race is going. That is the main reason why Safety Car works in F1 and not in GPRO
2) I think this would diminuish the importance of weighing strategy vs speed and also OT and DT. IMO
3) Ok so you have 40 managers per group currently. Now multiply that by 2. 80 CARS RACING ON THE TRACK. Oh, you want to decrease the number of cars by half? No problem, now you have DOUBLE THE GROUPS and suddenly the PostleServer dies.
These are just the issues that come up on the top of my head. If you solve them, sure enough, I will support the idea, but until then, that's a nono from me.
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Quote ( Ricardo Antunes @ May 7th 2021,21:37:37 ) 1) Safety Car ... ....
+ there are no actual lives at risk in GPRO :)
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Where's the fourth option? (NOTA)
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#8 posted May 7th 2021, 21:50:34
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Quote ( Mikko Heikkinen @ May 7th 2021,21:43:50 ) Quote ( Ricardo Antunes @ May 7th 2021,21:37:37 )
1) Safety Car ... ....
+ there are no actual lives at risk in GPRO :)
I mean I'm sure there are a lot of issues I just pointed out the ones I came up with immediatly because I'm too lazy to think about it :)
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#9 posted May 7th 2021, 21:50:39
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Ok I am not sure what a DRS will achieve. All the cars in GPRO are virtual and they don't really suffer from serious air resistance issues. Also as stated above... this being a simulation we don't really need people to run around the track to clean up the track after a crash so not really sure what the purpose of a safety car would be as well, no one is actually in danger.
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Quote ( Erik Harken @ May 7th 2021,21:29:52 ) None of the above Yes. ... maybe we need firefighters and track judges.
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... possibly a crying monkey or laughing clown.
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Gpro drivers don't get hurt or die ever, unless retired in which case they disappear. So what is the need for a safety car here?
F1 should copy GPRO and enforce a 1 car per team rule, and double the number of teams: no more driver privileges talks.
For the drs part, it may be feasible, who knows?
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It has been said many times GPRO is not F1
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Safety Car
As mentioned no drivers at risk and another random without chance to react.
DRS
There is slipstreaming no no use for DRS.
Second driver
What would be the benefit, just to have half of the managers in upper leagues?
As mentioned the pole lacks the NONE option
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As many stated above, the race is only a representation of the race that was calculated BEFORE it is shown to us. Thus, it has no sense to include safety car.
DRS is only an artifact of F1 trying to overcome the aerodynamic problems (dirty air) of a car following another. We don't have this situation in Gpro. Blocking is not due to aerodynamic reason
Second car is not a good a idea because it only half the number of managers racing a group. We will put a fast race together with a slow car otherwise they will interact in the track and block each other
Finally, I think that this polling lacks the option to disagree with all the proposed changes. If this option were available I would vote by it by sure!
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A second car in the same group, and promotion based on a constructors championship et al, would likely only be possible with a complete overhaul of the game into a GPRO 2.0. So well beyond have possibility to really consider.
That being said, a second car doesn't have to be in the same group as the first one. One car could be in pro and one in ama for example. The bigger questions would be would it play like two accounts, or can some sort of shared resources happen? The obvious concern being that one team just gets run as a endlessly farmed blood donor for the other team.
Honesty, simply allowing supporters run a second car with zero resource sharing between the two, would probably be the easy option and worth getting supporter for for a few people.
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The biggest concern with a safety car, is not the safety car itself, it's that in order to justify a safety car we're going to need to have cars crashing endlessly out of the races.
I mean we hate randoms enough as it is, let alone adding foksmashing the cars together.
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For several months I have believed that the addition of the Safety car is a good idea. For those who say it is not good because it requires changes of strategy during the race (but it is true) you can add an extra screen in the race strategy to use in case of safety car.
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Quote ( Armando Jozsef Mascolo @ May 7th 2021,22:40:22 ) For several months I have believed that the addition of the Safety car is a good idea. For those who say it is not good because it requires changes of strategy during the race (but it is true) you can add an extra screen in the race strategy to use in case of safety car.
Armando, I have one question for you: do you like when the weather changes a lot during a race?
Or, do you like it when you have a random that screws up your strategy?
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careful, some people like both :)
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Quote ( Ricardo Antunes @ May 7th 2021,21:37:37 ) Alright so here is my opinion on all of the above
1) Safety Car is basicly a Random 2.0 and we don't want that. Difference between F1 and GPRO is that in GPRO you predict how the race will go and in F1 you react to how the race is going. That is the main reason why Safety Car works in F1 and not in GPRO
2) I think this would diminuish the importance of weighing strategy vs speed and also OT and DT. IMO
3) Ok so you have 40 managers per group currently. Now multiply that by 2. 80 CARS RACING ON THE TRACK. Oh, you want to decrease the number of cars by half? No problem, now you have DOUBLE THE GROUPS and suddenly the PostleServer dies.
These are just the issues that come up on the top of my head. If you solve them, sure enough, I will support the idea, but until then, that's a nono from me.
80 cars racing on a track? Unless the servers die it's a good idea, there will be a double action :)
its a terrible idea. Most people desire for fewer random actions in a race, not more!
ouch
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its a terrible idea. Most people desire for fewer random actions in a race, not more!
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Quote ( Ricardo Antunes @ May 7th 2021,22:42:07 ) Quote ( Armando Jozsef Mascolo @ May 7th 2021,22:40:22 )
For several months I have believed that the addition of the Safety car is a good idea. For those who say it is not good because it requires changes of strategy during the race (but it is true) you can add an extra screen in the race strategy to use in case of safety car.
Armando, I have one question for you: do you like when the weather changes a lot during a race?
Or, do you like it when you have a random that screws up your strategy?
I don't really like it when something ruins my strategy, just think one day I had organized a perfect strategy (and I was also the only one in my group who had thought about it) but I was afraid that it would fail and that I would ruin the race by just, so I changed it. I didn't have to because the strategy I had thought at the beginning (and then I changed) was perfect
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Quote ( Javier Caceres @ May 7th 2021,22:50:24 ) honestly......
i'm drunk
The good news is you can wake up tomorrow with a hang over.
The bad news is this thread will be here for you to read when sober.
Which do you like the most? :)
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I think the 2nd car could work, at least for rookie only, the manager could try something with 1 car & something different with the other & see what ends up works better (help people learn by trial & error faster), as for the car count issue, how many rookie groups got 40 cars in a race, or even 20 on a regular basis? I'm in Rookie-70 & 13 races in this season the most we had on track was 17 for race #2, fewest was 13 for race #11, multiply by 2 & with that attendance, it'd be 26 to 34 cars on track instead of 13 to 17.
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So how would you feel if a safety car came and ruined your strategy? Is that not like a random?
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Quote ( Ricardo Antunes @ May 7th 2021,22:54:05 ) So how would you feel if a safety car came and ruined your strategy? Is that not like a random?
This is to Armando, forgot to quote
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Quote ( Stuart Foster @ May 7th 2021,22:53:20 ) Quote ( Javier Caceres @ May 7th 2021,22:50:24 )
honestly......
i'm drunk
The good news is you can wake up tomorrow with a hang over.
The bad news is this thread will be here for you to read when sober.
Which do you like the most? :)
This poll lacks the 3rd option NONE
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There's an edit button as well ;)
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