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Zdravko Subakov
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Old post #3451 posted May 15th 2018, 23:06:10 Quote 
The leaders were at final lap when I dropped out and I was 3 laps behind so its 49.
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Old post #3452 posted May 15th 2018, 23:09:32 (last edited May 15th 2018, 23:11:20 by Jasper Coosemans) Quote 
Race Summary is what counts, and it says you only did 45 laps.

You may have done 49 laps in race analysis, but they were too slow (you got lapped four times in those 49 laps, that's why they count as 45).

(edited to correct the numbers)
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Old post #3453 posted May 15th 2018, 23:12:28 Quote 
Quote ( Jasper Coosemans @ May 15th 2018,23:09:32 )

Race Summary is what counts, and it says you only did 45 laps.

You may have done 47 laps in race analysis, but they were too slow (you got lapped twice in those 47 laps, that's why they count as 45).

In race analysis it says I did 49 laps
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Old post #3454 posted May 15th 2018, 23:14:46 Quote 
I know, my mistake, check my edited post.

The bottom line is that it is not a bug. It is something very confusing with the race viewer, but it works like this for everyone.
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Old post #3455 posted May 15th 2018, 23:17:04 Quote 
Ok, can someone explain why the live race and analysis show one thing and old race and summary the other?
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Old post #3456 posted May 15th 2018, 23:23:45 (last edited May 15th 2018, 23:25:53 by Jasper Coosemans) Quote 
We could, but... it's very difficult and technical. :D

The old race viewer is the 'best' way to show how a GPRO race actually works. Everyone's laptime for, say, lap 49 is calculated at the same time. That's why everyone also has the same weather conditions for lap 49.

Now what was your status in lap 49 according to the old race viewer?

34. (+1) Z. Subakov (33)
+ 8:09.274 (+ 4 laps)

So by this point, it calculated 49 laptimes for you (and all 49 laptimes are shown in Race Analysis). But because it says "+4 laps", Race Summary says you were 4 laps behind at that time, so you did only 45 laps that really counted for your race distance.

EDIT:

You can also finish the entire race, but at a very slow speed. So in the last lap, lap 53, the old race viewer would say "+12 laps" for example. Race Analysis will say you did the whole race, but because you were so slow, you only get half of the money. The same happened to you today (but with less extreme numbers).
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Old post #3457 posted May 15th 2018, 23:35:18 (last edited May 15th 2018, 23:50:40 by Mikko Heikkinen) Quote 
Quote ( Zdravko Subakov @ May 15th 2018,23:17:04 )

Ok, can someone explain why the analysis show one thing and summary the other?


The "why" simplified: Basically because one (analysis) is geared towards giving you data of all laps (as explained by Jasper), where as the other (summary) is geared towards the race result.
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Old post #3458 posted May 15th 2018, 23:47:22 Quote 
Jukka explains it here why it happens

Quote ( Jukka Sireni @ March 30th 2018,23:27:40 )

Like I have said, the laps completed rule is quite strange, and the new viewer makes it even more strange.

What happens is that you get 2x lap time from laps you didn't complete, and then the amount of lap times you are behind in the end decides how many laps you are behind. This basically equals the laps you didn't cover based on race analysis + the laps you were behind at the moment of retirement.


The point you retire the game then adds 2x the leaders lap time to your time, but it still counts onto the race screen and analysis but the race summary will have it the time you did retire at, as the live race screen is based off time and not a lap by lap basis. I presume the new race screen will fix this issue (hopefully)
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Old post #3459 posted May 15th 2018, 23:55:44 Quote 
Thanks guys, so we cant really trust the live race screen, as its plane wrong at least for us at the bottom of the race.
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Old post #3460 posted May 15th 2018, 23:56:33 Quote 
Only if you retire at around the 90% mark
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Old post #3461 posted May 16th 2018, 09:44:06 Quote 
As we all know it's a well known bug. But can we do anything to clarify things? Because the 90% rule bug is mentioned on the forums almost every week.

Simple fix:

1. Change "Laps:" string to "Laps finished by leader:"
2. Add smaller "Your laps behind the leader:" string below

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Old post #3462 posted May 16th 2018, 11:01:25 Quote 
And what should be put to those? As strange as it is, it is your laps - your laps behind that decides.
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Old post #3463 posted May 16th 2018, 11:21:25 (last edited May 16th 2018, 11:39:27 by Tomek Kiełpiński) Quote 
Quote ( Jukka Sireni @ May 16th 2018,11:01:25 )

And what should be put to those?


1. The same thing as it there now.

2. virtual gap from the leader (basically blue flag number, but fixed when the leader crosses the finish line) +(#leaderlaps - #droplap) if dropped.

E: Until you drop your laps = leader laps.

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Old post #3464 posted May 16th 2018, 14:19:23 Quote 
I presume the number of laps shown completed equate to the leader.

So if your car has a blue flag with 4 on it ,this must mean your 4 laps behind the leader.

Its not rocket science is it?
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Old post #3465 posted May 22nd 2018, 20:39:57 Quote 
Of course it's not critical but I don't know why it happened

http://uploads.ru/m2Lfw.jpg
http://uploads.ru/Q53Au.jpg
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Old post #3466 posted May 22nd 2018, 20:44:45 Quote 
Quote ( Alexei Malkin @ May 22nd 2018,20:39:57 )

Of course it's not critical but I don't know why it happened

http://uploads.ru/m2Lfw.jpg
http://uploads.ru/Q53Au.jpg

Looks like you drove then-current fastest lap 1:19:595 on lap 21, and then one lap after that, one thousandth slower which was 1:19:596 on lap 22?
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Old post #3467 posted May 22nd 2018, 20:52:53 Quote 
Quote ( Mikko Suhonen @ May 22nd 2018,20:44:45 )

Looks like you drove then-current fastest lap 1:19:595 on lap 21, and then one lap after that, one thousandth slower which was 1:19:596 on lap 22?
yes. But if I try to look at friends list (or team list) I see that my fastest lap is 1:19.596 but it's slower than 1:19.595.
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Old post #3468 posted May 22nd 2018, 21:01:35 Quote 
You're so fast you partially melted the timing equipment =]
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Old post #3469 posted May 22nd 2018, 21:02:24 Quote 
Ah, right. Thought that was the "current lap time" column.
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Old post #3470 posted May 23rd 2018, 10:02:44 Quote 
I reckon it has been mentioned before, but many (most? all?) commentary lines in the race have the manager names in the wrong spot.

"A attempt to overtake B" while it's actually B who attempted the overtake.
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Old post #3471 posted May 23rd 2018, 12:48:56 Quote 
I've not seen that happening at all, to be honest.
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Old post #3472 posted May 23rd 2018, 12:57:10 (last edited May 23rd 2018, 12:58:18 by Miel Soeterbroek) Quote 
I've tried to grab a few from last race replay just now, but in the replay i only see one and the same comment "X tries to overtake Y but does not succeed".... Not the more elaborate comments like "but X slams the door" or "X takes the inside" or whatever.

Is it true that the race replay only shows one type of comment?

I've definitely seen it on those other types of comments during the live race. Will try to grab a few screenshots next race.
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Old post #3473 posted May 23rd 2018, 13:17:16 Quote 
make sure you can touch your nose when you want to do the printscreen :P
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Old post #3474 posted May 23rd 2018, 14:00:10 Quote 
Quote ( Gordon Douglas @ March 4th 2018,17:42:31 )

In the race replay / live screen there is one sentence where the names of the drivers have been swapped.
see here:
Lap 18 - Turn 16
Gordon Douglas fights hard but Argiris Lostre has a much higher exit speed and takes the place

I overtook Argiris Lostre and went from 8th to 7th.


Well, yes I did report something like that a while ago, but didn´t seem to bother or interest anybody so I have stopped looking.
If required I´ll bring more occurences as I see them.
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Old post #3475 posted May 23rd 2018, 14:57:19 Quote 
Thanks Gordon.

I'll also keep an eye on them in the upcoming races, as i'm pretty sure there's more commentary lines suffering from the same `issue` :)
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Old post #3476 posted May 23rd 2018, 15:10:45 (last edited May 23rd 2018, 15:11:08 by Richard Farrelly) Quote 
I have seen that too Miel. I just thought it was an event that I had missed:)
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Old post #3477 posted May 23rd 2018, 16:21:59 Quote 
Comments are old ones in replay if you turn corner names off. Itested some time ago sector based comments. I thought someone would notice them and comment. As no one did I forgot them there. :)
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Old post #3478 posted May 29th 2018, 20:42:51 (last edited May 29th 2018, 20:43:44 by Nevzat Kasapoglu) Quote 
For pro, in the end of the list under dots, it's not showing the right place for me. (btw, it's not an hourly updated statistic)


Best managers (by best car levels)

194. Nuno Toscano Pro - 20
195. Peter Thompson Pro - 1
196. Fers Hungaro Pro - 4
197. Bruno Silva Pro - 5
198. Romulo Moraes Pro - 8
199. Thomas Uvyn Pro - 15
200. Jordan Day Pro - 18
• • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • •
195. Nevzat Kasapoglu Pro - 24




The same problem does not exist in expenditures, which is an hourly updated stat. -Also we cant check the same problem exist in sponsor or S&F stat. -
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Old post #3479 posted May 29th 2018, 21:01:30 Quote 
I did not want to show ties (as they are not visible otherwise), but your own position takes ties into account. So you are tied 195th, but didn't fit to the page.
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Old post #3480 posted May 29th 2018, 22:04:11 Quote 
Economy graph, when looking at via mobile (android browser)

When you hover over the line it tells you something like: aa $10.000.000

It always says aa instead of the race where that point is located
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