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#1 posted Sep 20th 2007, 13:06:04
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In last season (rookie 29) I finished 7th with same points of 6th and a positive balance.
I've a good (imho) pilot and I'd like to maintain him for next rookie season, but he's 97 and I can't.
I'm thinking that If I spend all my money and I go under -15million, his motivation will drop to 0 from actual 250, and maybe his overall returns under 85.
Question is: Is there some chance to be promoted in Amateur even if I'm not in first 5 managers?
Maybe some Amateur pilot goes offline... maybe will be more free spaces in Amateur than promoted managers from rookie.
If I'll try that trick to mantain pilot, it will be SURE that I can't go up ;)
Thanks for help
Leo
p.s. I hope that you could understand my ital-english explanation of my situation :)
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#2 posted Sep 20th 2007, 13:08:55
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Well the top 6 rookie managers get promoted. Is there anyone ahead of you in negative money?
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#3 posted Sep 20th 2007, 13:10:22
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No. All promoted in my Rookie are positive.
I knew that negatives will not promoted, so I ask if there's other possibilities to being promoted ;)
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#4 posted Sep 20th 2007, 13:13:15
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If there are too many amateurs with negative balance they will be relegated.
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#5 posted Sep 20th 2007, 13:14:00
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No one your series have negative balance, in the past years (i think) some managers in amateur who had negative balance were relegated and some people in rookie got promoted....I think this season that will not happen, people in amateur who are in relegation spot maintain his amateur position...
I think.
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#6 posted Sep 20th 2007, 13:14:16
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Yes there's the possibility of being promoted if you are one of the highest scoring 7th placed rookie managers.
There will inevitably be other manager dropping out of the game (Elite champion Totev for example), which all has a knock on effect on how many managers are promoted from each level (e.g. one extra master will promote to replace Totev, meaning another amateur will promote to replace him, etc).
Check how you fit in terms of the highest scoring 7th placed rookies, and if you have a high number of points then you'll probably be going up.
Also, I don't think going -$15mil will have an effect on your driver before the promotion/relegation script is run, therefore you will lose him if you remain in Rookie anyway (I may be wrong on the script running order though)...
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#7 posted Sep 20th 2007, 13:23:35
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Quote ( Chris Williams @ September 20th 2007,13:14:16 )
Also, I don't think going -$15mil will have an effect on your driver before the promotion/relegation script is run, therefore you will lose him if you remain in Rookie anyway (I may be wrong on the script running order though)...
As far as I also know that will not happen since the motivation of the driver in case of -15 mil is only set to 0 just before races. And there is no race before the script is run. However, there is a chance (and I would say a rather good one from past seasons experience) that you will get promoted.
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#8 posted Sep 20th 2007, 13:28:32
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Ok, the problem is around scripts running. Motivation will not drop in every case...
I'll keep my moneys and I'll pray for a chance to go up.
Thanks all for help! ;)
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#9 posted Sep 20th 2007, 13:30:29
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this season players in amateur with negative balance will be relegated...other playes in amateur in relegation spot will stay amateur or rookie get promoted? i think amateur retain their spot...or am i wrong?
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#10 posted Sep 20th 2007, 13:34:04
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Managers with a negative balance will be relegated and the next position in the league (26th etc) will stay in the group unless they are also in negative.
The question of inactive managers is different though. I believe that these get removed and that an additional promotion place is made available rather than someone else staying in the group.
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#11 posted Sep 20th 2007, 13:35:33
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I think you have a very good chance of promotion.
I've just scanned through all the rookie groups (some serious bad cases of negative balance!) and you're easily in the top 3 people outside the automatic promotion zones.
Fingers crossed mate :)
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#12 posted Sep 20th 2007, 13:39:44
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Dont forget, that we also open 2 more Amateur groups :)
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#13 posted Sep 20th 2007, 13:47:02
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Quote ( Joe Jenner-Murphy @ September 20th 2007,13:08:55 )
Well the top 6 rookie managers get promoted.
Quote ( Chris Williams @ September 20th 2007,13:14:16 )
Yes there's the possibility of being promoted if you are one of the highest scoring 7th placed rookie managers.
Say what? Are you sure about that?
That means that I, being as as I am in seventh spot but number six with positive cash in R12, will be promoted to amateur?
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#14 posted Sep 20th 2007, 13:49:33
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#15 posted Sep 20th 2007, 13:51:06
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Blimey! I gotta go check the lists. Anyone know how many points you need to promote in my situation?
Edit: Or is it down to how many extra spots are open? (Would make sense actually.)
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#16 posted Sep 20th 2007, 13:54:05
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Quote ( Hans Peter Bak @ September 20th 2007,13:51:06 )
Anyone know how many points you need to promote in my situation?
You don't need a certain number of points - you will be promoted automatically as you are effectively "6th" in your league. :)
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#17 posted Sep 20th 2007, 14:02:40
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Thats not quite correct. The best managers (by points) over all groups will fill the empty spots in the next higher class.
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#18 posted Sep 20th 2007, 14:08:38
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Quote ( Stefan Voggenreither @ September 20th 2007,14:02:40 )
Thats not quite correct. The best managers (by points) over all groups will fill the empty spots in the next higher class.
Is that true in Hans' case, where he's 7th but 6th (automatic promotion spot) holds a negative balance?
I thought the next manager with a positive balance IN THAT LEAGUE took the spot?
I thought the "best managers (by points) over all groups" then took any other spots made available by extra relegations or deletions?
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#19 posted Sep 20th 2007, 14:10:26
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Quote ( Stefan Voggenreither @ September 20th 2007,14:02:40 )
Thats not quite correct. The best managers (by points) over all groups will fill the empty spots in the next higher class.
Okay, I just counted how many managers that are above me points-wise. There are 23. That makes me number 24 out of 39 (with 31 points). Does that make me eligible for promotion?
Edit: I've counted only those with positive cash. In a couple of cases I had to count managers in positions as low as tenth or eleventh.
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#20 posted Sep 20th 2007, 14:31:07
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Quote ( Chris Williams @ September 20th 2007,14:08:38 )
Is that true in Hans' case, where he's 7th but 6th (automatic promotion spot) holds a negative balance?
As said, 6th position is not an automatic position spot. If it would be, it would be green colored like the 5 positions above. And you never promote with negative balance.
Quote ( Chris Williams @ September 20th 2007,14:08:38 )
I thought the next manager with a positive balance IN THAT LEAGUE took the spot?
Most of the time it is that way, but it is not the way the script works. This its very likely as we create 80 additional spots in Amateur class. So you have to have a real low score on 6th position to not promote.
Quote ( Chris Williams @ September 20th 2007,14:08:38 )
I thought the "best managers (by points) over all groups" then took any other spots made available by extra relegations or deletions?
These spots are extra spots and nothing normal.
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#21 posted Sep 20th 2007, 14:44:10
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Ah right - sorry. For some reason I was thinking 6th placed Rookies were being given auto promotion this year. My Mishtake :s
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#22 posted Sep 20th 2007, 14:52:02
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S5 rookie promotions & Teams in S6 Aug 20, 2007, 14:59:46 by Vladimir Alexandrov
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Since we plan to open two additional groups in the Amateur class for S6 we would like to remind you that 35 additional managers will promote from Rookie to Amateur at the end of this season. This means that managers who finish the season in 6th position in Rookie should also be ready for promotion.
Hereby we would also like to announce a small change in the rules regarding teams which will come into effect at the start of S6. From the start of S6 teams with just one manager will not score any points for the teams championship.
Is this what you mean Chris
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#23 posted Sep 20th 2007, 14:53:06
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Quote ( Phil Tipton @ September 20th 2007,14:52:02 )
This means that managers who finish the season in 6th position in Rookie should also be ready for promotion.
Was about to copy this in myself, note its SHOULD and not will.
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#24 posted Sep 20th 2007, 14:53:20
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Ah, didn't see this one...
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#25 posted Sep 20th 2007, 14:58:52
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But to clarify one thing: the Top 5 managers with a positive balance from each Rookie group will promote. So if you are in 7th position and 2 above you are in the negatives, you will promote no matter how many points you have.
These things could be easily mixed up I fear :)
EDIT: as I see, I think Rookie - 9 is a good example for what I meant :)
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#26 posted Sep 20th 2007, 15:04:17
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Quote ( Phil Tipton @ September 20th 2007,14:52:02 )
Is this what you mean Chris
Yeah that's what confused me Phil - thanks.
I remember reading that a few weeks ago and thought 6th placed rookies were actually promoting now - not should be ready to.
My mistake :)
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#27 posted Sep 20th 2007, 15:08:08
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LOL, 16th place will be promoted with 4 points...since he is the 5th with positive balance...lol
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#28 posted Sep 20th 2007, 15:16:49
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I am number 47 on the list................I think I won't promote to Amateur. I made a really big mistake this season. Now I know what to do next season. But you never know.........maybe I will promote this season. I really want to even if I am not prepared.......a have a bad car and a worst diver, but I want to compete in Amateur.
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#29 posted Sep 20th 2007, 15:20:18
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Quote ( Viorel Clep @ September 20th 2007,15:16:49 )
I am number 47 on the list................I think I won't promote to Amateur.
Quote ( Stefan Voggenreither @ September 20th 2007,13:39:44 )
Dont forget, that we also open 2 more Amateur groups :)
2 Amateur groups => 80 additional spots!
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#30 posted Sep 20th 2007, 17:52:20
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uh
I also was sure that 6th promoted for sure this season... :(
now there is a chance of not? damn!
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