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Dylan van den Berg
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Stari post #1 objavljeno 14 Kol 2012, 17:17:26 Citat 
Uhm, i am sure something is wrong here.

1.18.4 in the dry on Xsofts
(2s down on leader P14)

1.37.661 in the wet with wets
(7.5s downon leader P24)

my driver is not the best rain driver, but certainly not the worst..

besides that i am using the same weather converter which i am using over 10 seasons, so that is not the issue aswell...
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Stari post #2 objavljeno 14 Kol 2012, 17:18:49 Citat 
Maybe your conversion is still very bad :D

Have you checked everyhing again.
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Stari post #3 objavljeno 14 Kol 2012, 17:20:34 Citat 
Poor conversion and an error in q2 could give you a much bigger difference than that so don't know why you believe it to be a bug.
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Stari post #4 objavljeno 14 Kol 2012, 17:21:43 Citat 
Classic Dylberg :)
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Stari post #5 objavljeno 14 Kol 2012, 17:22:41 (zadnji uredio14 Kol 2012, 17:39:57 od Lee Harding) Citat 
Quote ( Dylan van den Berg @ August 14th 2012,17:17:26 )

same weather converter which i am using over 10 seasons


That explains the last 10 seasons then :P

Fuel is obviously a factor he could be smoking on a stupid fuel strat. Other than that if you are positive the setup is right and your tyres are as you say then I can only think it must be a random but not a bug?
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Stari post #6 objavljeno 14 Kol 2012, 17:24:02 Citat 
Could well be a mistake by your driver in q2
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Stari post #7 objavljeno 14 Kol 2012, 17:25:47 Citat 
It is a very low grip track, so driver's mistakes are a big possibility...
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Stari post #8 objavljeno 14 Kol 2012, 17:26:50 Citat 
Quote ( Dylan van den Berg @ August 14th 2012,17:17:26 )

1.37.661 in the wet with wets
(7.5s downon leader P24)
I know why :P

P24 doesn't exist :P
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Stari post #9 objavljeno 14 Kol 2012, 17:28:54 Citat 
Quote ( Stefan Gommans @ August 14th 2012,17:26:50 )

Quote ( Dylan van den Berg @ August 14th 2012,17:17:26 )

1.37.661 in the wet with wets
(7.5s downon leader P24) I know why :P

P24 doesn't exist :P


Can't tell if trolling or joking or stupid, he means position 24
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Stari post #10 objavljeno 14 Kol 2012, 17:33:19 Citat 
I think that p24 was for 24th starting spot?
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Stari post #11 objavljeno 14 Kol 2012, 17:37:54 Citat 
There's a guy in my group that's 9.4s behind the Q2 leader (and this being Master, this time is an entire geological age in itself as a gap).

And there's also the legendary "dry tyre on wet Q2" bug, if you still looking at hypothesis.
Dylan van den Berg
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Stari post #12 objavljeno 14 Kol 2012, 17:39:29 Citat 
nothing wrong with the conversion trust me, if it were shite the whole phantom racing and wankel racing would be rubbish in the wet..

Fuel is not the thing, i am not packed... a mistake would be a 0.1% chance on my driver.. well anyways will see what my dude will do in the race
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Stari post #13 objavljeno 14 Kol 2012, 17:45:38 Citat 
Why are you so sure of your driver not doing mistakes...0.1% !!
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Stari post #14 objavljeno 14 Kol 2012, 17:46:00 Citat 
Quote ( Dylan van den Berg @ August 14th 2012,17:39:29 )

nothing wrong with the conversion trust me, if it were shite the whole phantom racing and wankel racing would be rubbish in the wet..

no abusing teams in public forums!!!:)
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Stari post #15 objavljeno 14 Kol 2012, 17:47:35 (zadnji uredio14 Kol 2012, 17:50:59 od Lee Harding) Citat 
You say you have been using the conversion for 10 seasons. Is it a manual thing so maybe a user error or an auto program you use?

You will not have noticed an issue so much on most races since the temps are typically close.

Since the temp diffs from Q1 to Q2 are very different. If you use the wrong one at these temps it a big problem.

Just a thought?

If you end up slow in the race it will indicate the setup is your problem. If not then its a mystery.
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Stari post #16 objavljeno 14 Kol 2012, 17:48:46 Citat 
Quote ( Tony Dimartino @ August 14th 2012,17:28:54 )

Can't tell if trolling or joking or stupid, he means position 24


this is my 2nd season with this guy, and we are still not sure aahha, its just a typical stefan quote

Quote ( Dylan van den Berg @ August 14th 2012,17:39:29 )

a mistake would be a 0.1% chance on my driver


you already said your driver was bad in rain, and if you pushed the car in Q2 I'm pretty sure the chance is more than 0.1% I would go with 20% with which I say you were just unlucky

Not a bug though, otherwise everyone would be getting it, and then everyones times would be the same and you wouldnt know there was bug :P
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Stari post #17 objavljeno 14 Kol 2012, 17:50:46 (zadnji uredio14 Kol 2012, 17:50:58 od Kevin Parkinson) Citat 
Quote ( Freddie Higgs @ August 14th 2012,17:48:46 )

Not a bug though, otherwise everyone would be getting it, and then everyones times would be the same and you wouldnt know there was bug :P


Unless it only affected him, in which case it would be named the "Dylan van den Bug" :p
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Stari post #18 objavljeno 14 Kol 2012, 17:54:24 Citat 
Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ August 14th 2012,17:50:46 )

Unless it only affected him, in which case it would be named the "Dylan van den Bug" :p


I love that xD

Or The GPRO Crew got bored of his antics so are now messing with his game ;)
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Stari post #19 objavljeno 14 Kol 2012, 17:55:22 Citat 
Quote ( Dylan van den Berg @ August 14th 2012,17:17:26 )

besides that i am using the same weather converter which i am using over 10 seasons, so that is not the issue aswell...


Beside that we are using the same scripts for over 30 seasons, so that is not the issue aswell... :)

Maybe the problem is not the converter - maybe the problem started before you used the converter? Rain will just increase the problems and you see that then by looking at the bigger time difference to the leader.
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Stari post #20 objavljeno 14 Kol 2012, 18:01:03 Citat 
There's a guy in my group that's 10 seconds of the pace. It happens I guess




'course he started playing 2 weeks ago not 10 seasons ago :V
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Stari post #21 objavljeno 14 Kol 2012, 18:06:12 (zadnji uredio14 Kol 2012, 18:06:40 od Michael Winkley) Citat 
Dylan is a unique character here on GPRO; he's had access to everyone's tools, but unfortunately he hasn't yet found the ON button. ;p
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Stari post #22 objavljeno 14 Kol 2012, 18:08:38 Citat 
Quote ( Roland Postle @ August 14th 2012,18:01:03 )

There's a guy in my group that's 10 seconds of the pace.


Wrong tyres?
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Stari post #23 objavljeno 14 Kol 2012, 18:22:37 Citat 
Join a team dylan ;)
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Stari post #24 objavljeno 14 Kol 2012, 18:23:04 Citat 
Quote ( Dylan van den Berg @ August 14th 2012,17:39:29 )

nothing wrong with the conversion trust me, if it were shite the whole phantom racing and wankel racing would be rubbish in the wet..


Prick ;)
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Stari post #25 objavljeno 14 Kol 2012, 18:25:58 Citat 
LOL Dylan's probably got confused referencing all the Data he's "Obtained"
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Stari post #26 objavljeno 14 Kol 2012, 18:29:30 Citat 
Quote ( Michael Keeney @ August 14th 2012,18:23:04 )

Prick ;)


I wanna know the "Tommy k"
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Stari post #27 objavljeno 14 Kol 2012, 18:50:01 (zadnji uredio14 Kol 2012, 18:51:50 od Stuart Foster) Citat 
what if.....wankel and phantom gave you wrong information purposely cos they didn't like you very much? atleast one of your conversions was rubbish btw. if the one you used for this race was the one that had the rather nice background image on it then, I hate to break it to you, I disagree with the strength of i completely. I used it for one race and it was dog turd.

the biggest mistake i've found in this game is to rest on your laurels and assume that you are right, or worse, always right.

oh dear.
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Stari post #28 objavljeno 14 Kol 2012, 18:53:10 Citat 
Stuart really seems to like Dylan :) I can't really blame him.
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Stari post #29 objavljeno 14 Kol 2012, 19:04:08 (zadnji uredio14 Kol 2012, 19:04:54 od Stuart Foster) Citat 
oh he's a lovely bloke. I sometimes wish I was even half as full of the stuff he's made of. actually, no I don't.

Dylan....carry on doing what you're doing cos, clearly, you are absolutely 100% right with what you are doing....you are "ze" best. good job and carry on as you are....

It's better to say that tbh so as not to bruise ego's. plus, it adds to the forum entertainment.
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Stari post #30 objavljeno 14 Kol 2012, 19:05:45 (zadnji uredio14 Kol 2012, 19:08:40 od Carlos Carvalho) Citat 
Risks in qualifying. We found these differences between the players of our team, we discussed the matter and found that those who used high risks in Q2, "push the car a lot" or mainly "push the car to the limit," had very bad times, much higher than they usually do.
Perhaps we are wrong, but our data pointed to this possibility.
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