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Tema: [IDEA] Driver weight |
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#1 objavljeno 25 Ruj 2007, 12:49:27
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I see a thread on the highness of many drivers weights.
What if in races, like in f1, drivers loose some weight. And the ability to lose weight is higher if the drivers stamina is higher.
Maybe also a checkbox on: Between races, request driver to try and put weight back on, if he is light in weight.
Not sure this idea will be liked, but i am interested to hear what people have to say anyway.
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#2 objavljeno 25 Ruj 2007, 12:52:01
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Not wishing to throw a damper on things, but surely if the stamina is high they would lose less weight due to them being fit to start with.
Additionally, and sorry of this is FOBY, but I have actually seen a driver lose weight in a race.
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#3 objavljeno 25 Ruj 2007, 12:52:32
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Quote ( Armin van Hulkenburg @ September 25th 2007,12:49:27 )
What if in races, like in f1, drivers loose some weight. And the ability to lose weight is higher if the drivers stamina is higher.
Loose weight is dangerous.
Quote ( Armin van Hulkenburg @ September 25th 2007,12:49:27 )
Maybe also a checkbox on: Between races, request driver to try and put weight back on, if he is light in weight.
Checkbox for "Yes, I deliberately want to be slower in the future, thank you."
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#4 objavljeno 25 Ruj 2007, 12:53:32
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Quote ( Gordon Ashford @ September 25th 2007,12:52:01 )
Not wishing to throw a damper on things, but surely if the stamina is high they would lose less weight due to them being fit to start with.
Sorry Gordon, i think i got it around the wrong way. You know what i mean though
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#5 objavljeno 25 Ruj 2007, 12:55:14
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Quote ( Toni Metsänkylä @ September 25th 2007,12:52:32 )
Checkbox for "Yes, I deliberately want to be slower in the future, thank you."
I mean, if the driver is already light in weight, if he should put back on the weight he lost in the race to what iit was pre-race.
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#6 objavljeno 25 Ruj 2007, 12:56:46
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I remember some drivers passing out after a very hot race!
Nigel Mansell and Nelson Piquet for example!
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#7 objavljeno 25 Ruj 2007, 13:00:33
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Well to be fair Nigel got out and acted like an engine he pushed his car
heavy drivers sumo like can loose weight during the race
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#8 objavljeno 25 Ruj 2007, 13:01:08
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What GPRO should do is increase the lower weight limit to 50kg this season, as after the reset the lightest driver I've seen is 52kg.
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#9 objavljeno 25 Ruj 2007, 15:09:59
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guys, I am the 1st to admit the weight is a bit unrealistic sometimes, but in the end it will make little difference.
If we reduce the margin of weight, the effectiveness of each extra kilo can be / will be increased.
As for weight variability, age and soem other factors already influence weight. We can coem up up very difficult formula's for weight variability, e.g. throwing in stamina and a high-weight-highloss ~low weight less loss factor, but where will it stop? Low motivation will increase weight, because drivers will low motivation will drink alcohol more easily as well as have a poor diet. Drivers with good concentration tend to chew their food better, resulting in better nutrician and thsu more weight. Drivers who are more agressive are more likely to hurt themselfs with knife or fork, and thus from time to time cannot eat, so less weight. Should I go on?
Bottomline, weight is not a hugely important factor, and the effects of even more real but elaborate formula's will be minimal.
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#10 objavljeno 25 Ruj 2007, 17:49:00
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Quote ( Hans Barf @ September 25th 2007,15:09:59 )
Drivers with good concentration tend to chew their food better, resulting in better nutrician and thsu more weight.
They chew better, so they eat less, because the time needed for good-chewing of 200g of meal is equal to time needed for poor-chewing of 500g of meal :D
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#11 objavljeno 25 Ruj 2007, 18:01:58
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Quote ( Hans Barf @ September 25th 2007,15:09:59 )
Bottomline, weight is not a hugely important factor
Is 1 kg of fuel equal to 1 kg of driver weight in GPRO?
You're hinting that it's not and I also have the feeling that it's not.
If not, then I think the weights should be brought inside 50/100kg and the importance of driver weight should be made 1-to-1 with fuel weight.
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#12 objavljeno 25 Ruj 2007, 18:43:20
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Quote ( Hans Barf @ September 25th 2007,15:09:59 )
Bottomline, weight is not a hugely important factor
This is definitely open to speculation:)
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#13 objavljeno 25 Ruj 2007, 21:43:47
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What about people who can eat a cow and never gain weight due
to their fast metabolism? I guess such drivers don't exist in GPRO.
I generally agree with Hans this is not a important subject
in the game, especially now that i understand about the issue, changing things means, new formulas and more FOBIES.
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#14 objavljeno 25 Ruj 2007, 22:03:52
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In real life F1 there's a minimum weight for the car including the driver, so that in the end the driver's weight does not matter a lot since the car itself is a lot lighter than that. Lighter drivers still gives teams a better advantage to distribute the additional weight where they please (to shift the balance or whatever). So in real life having a heavy driver is not equivalent to having more fuel (however I do not know how that stuff is implemented in gpro).
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#15 objavljeno 26 Ruj 2007, 09:48:58
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When we 1st developed the game, weight was to be an important factor. Apart for parts and their characteristics, the car (an dcarparts) would also have weight. And fuel en driver weight were to be included in that equation. However, we came to the conclusion that we did not need weight of the car or carparts. It did not add anything to gameplay whatsoever, so we discarded carweight as a seperate variable.
Obviously, fuelload and drivers weight still have some function or influence.
@Toni, I don't think its the same, but I am not sure about that. Even if I knew, I coudl not tell you, you know that !
@Toygun, yep, you are right, it is more my personal believe than a fact that drivers weight is not that important. I have learned the hard way not to underestimate other drivers abilities as well. ;)
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#16 objavljeno 26 Ruj 2007, 13:35:19
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Quote ( Roni Moura @ September 25th 2007,21:43:47 )
What about people who can eat a cow and never gain weight due
to their fast metabolism?
I wish I had a fast metabolism ;-)
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#17 objavljeno 26 Ruj 2007, 14:23:20
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#18 objavljeno 27 Lip 2010, 15:06:30
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Can't find anywhere else to put this suggestion and couldn't find a similar once even though it is very simple.
Should weight lower and stamina increase during the race? I know Gordon has said it has occured but surely it should do so more regularly.
Afterall all professional sportsmen get their match fitness from matches. They will lose weight in the process unless they're sportsmen that eat rubbish. This would make the game more realistic, and solve some issues about drivers with higher OAs having 0 stamina.
However the drawbacks. Certain training would be used very little unless it gave dramatically greater effects than the race did.
any thoughts?
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#19 objavljeno 27 Lip 2010, 15:31:58
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Quote ( Toni Metsänkylä @ September 25th 2007,18:01:58 )
Is 1 kg of fuel equal to 1 kg of driver weight in GPRO
1kg is 1kg no matter what if you meant 1l of fuel = 1kg.
It wont be as fuel is lighter than water so would be less.
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#20 objavljeno 27 Lip 2010, 15:37:14
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Quote ( Martin Jones @ June 27th 2010,15:31:58 )
1l of fuel = 1kg.
no... ! 1l fuel - o,72 kg
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#21 objavljeno 27 Lip 2010, 15:43:16
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it would make testing less important...
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Quote ( Martin Jones @ June 27th 2010,15:31:58 )
if you meant 1l of fuel = 1kg.
Krzysztof before you post maybe read the one your replying to as mine clearly says it was a question the OPer and me saying that it would be wrong.
It depends on the type of fuel used.
Quote ( Martin Jones @ June 27th 2010,15:31:58 )
fuel is lighter than water so would be less.
Learn to read the whole post.
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#23 objavljeno 27 Lip 2010, 15:49:42
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Quote ( Martin Jones @ June 27th 2010,15:47:09 )
Learn to read.
The date on that post you answered earlier..
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#24 objavljeno 27 Lip 2010, 15:50:50
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Quote ( Aki Perätalo @ June 27th 2010,15:49:42 )
The date on that post you answered earlier..
Look at the post before me, i just posted as it was an active topic.
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#25 objavljeno 27 Lip 2010, 15:54:08
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I want to get my driver to ~110kgs. Any suggestions? Is there a secret Biergarten?
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#26 objavljeno 27 Lip 2010, 16:39:19
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my drivers at 62kg is that good?
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#27 objavljeno 27 Lip 2010, 17:42:16
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Quote ( Virgil Gardner @ June 27th 2010,16:39:19 )
my drivers at 62kg is that good?
Very! :)
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Quote ( Martin Jones @ June 27th 2010,15:50:50 )
Look at the post before me, i just posted as it was an active topic.
My post was a new suggestion nothing about 1kg of bodymass = 1kg of fuel. Haha Oh well.
Quote ( Ioannis Dimitroglou @ June 27th 2010,15:43:16 )
it would make testing less important...
It sure would. But it would be alot more realistic.
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#29 objavljeno 28 Lip 2010, 17:17:31
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Quote ( Dan Humphreys @ June 27th 2010,15:06:30 )
Afterall all professional sportsmen get their match fitness from matches.
F1 drivers don't get fit while racing, they are fit before racing. And sure the F1 drivers do loose weight during the race due to the heat, but they regain it very quick when they start to drink water...
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#30 objavljeno 28 Lip 2010, 17:28:20
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Dovydas in our team has a driver weighing only 52kg. That's lighter than me. :/
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