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I don’t mind being rude. Sonny, there are probably 2-3 people in the whole GPRO that I would trust hosting a game like Big Brother. You haven’t even hosted one small simple game yet. And I don’t think it’s a good idea if you play Mafia to be honest as I highly doubt your seriousness.
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Quote ( Ivelin Dobrev @ November 6th 2021,22:22:20 ) 2-3 people in the whole GPRO that I would trust hosting a game like Big Brother.
fine, i didn't want to anyways >:(
:P
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Quote ( Ivelin Dobrev @ November 6th 2021,22:22:20 ) I don’t mind being rude. Sonny, there are probably 2-3 people in the whole GPRO that I would trust hosting a game like Big Brother. You haven’t even hosted one small simple game yet. And I don’t think it’s a good idea if you play Mafia to be honest as I highly doubt your seriousness.
This. Sonny - you struggle to complete seasons of games you enter (TERG and Football World two recent examples I've noted) and I've not seen anything to suggest you would be able to cope with this. BB is a TOUGH thing to host - you need creativity, organisation, communication skills and you need to attract interesting/high profile managers where possible. When I hosted it, it almost killed me!
If you want to build towards BB, then consider what mini-games you might host and try hosting a couple of those first to see how you find them - if you start getting traction with those, then you can start working towards BB.
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Something that I feel like is not being touched upon here in what makes a good host, so I'll just briefly mention it: preparation.
I have been preparing a forum game for almost 10 months now, after releasing another version way too soon and it was chaotic. 10 months of development, and even more months will come, but I'm doing all of this in order to guarantee that when the game comes out it will be:
- simple enough to run (when i say simple, not to the point of being easy, to the point of not taking 4 hours to run a move)
- simple enough to understand
- fun to play
I have asked multiple people for help, am play testing the game, all that stuff. That is what good preparation is. Especially for a non-veteran host like me, it is even more important to prepare adequatly. It is also important to aknowledge the amount of time it will take to run that game.
You have done none of that. I know this because this isn't the first game you try to host without any sort of preparation.
/gb/forum/ViewTopic.asp?TopicId=30429
When I first saw this game I did not know what to think. Did Sonny actually invest time in making a functional game? You had no rules in so I assumed you would put them in soon...
What I saw from the later posts is that the whole thing was likely improvised. The OP was a mess, the rules were vague about so much I can't even begin to comprehend what that game was even supposed to be about. I didn't comment on it at the time, because I didn't want to be disrespecful.
As I don't want to be now either by the way. Just figured that you could use some enlightment in something you are surely missing massively, Sonny.
Apart from all the rest, of course.
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Quote ( Jonathan Beagles @ November 7th 2021,00:45:00 )
Quote ( Ivelin Dobrev @ November 6th 2021,22:22:20 )
I don’t mind being rude. Sonny, there are probably 2-3 people in the whole GPRO that I would trust hosting a game like Big Brother. You haven’t even hosted one small simple game yet. And I don’t think it’s a good idea if you play Mafia to be honest as I highly doubt your seriousness.
This. Sonny - you struggle to complete seasons of games you enter (TERG and Football World two recent examples I've noted) and I've not seen anything to suggest you would be able to cope with this. BB is a TOUGH thing to host - you need creativity, organisation, communication skills and you need to attract interesting/high profile managers where possible. When I hosted it, it almost killed me!
If you want to build towards BB, then consider what mini-games you might host and try hosting a couple of those first to see how you find them - if you start getting traction with those, then you can start working towards BB.
Quote ( Ricardo Antunes @ November 7th 2021,01:02:35 ) Something that I feel like is not being touched upon here in what makes a good host, so I'll just briefly mention it: preparation.
I have been preparing a forum game for almost 10 months now, after releasing another version way too soon and it was chaotic. 10 months of development, and even more months will come, but I'm doing all of this in order to guarantee that when the game comes out it will be:
- simple enough to run (when i say simple, not to the point of being easy, to the point of not taking 4 hours to run a move)
- simple enough to understand
- fun to play
I have asked multiple people for help, am play testing the game, all that stuff. That is what good preparation is. Especially for a non-veteran host like me, it is even more important to prepare adequatly. It is also important to aknowledge the amount of time it will take to run that game.
You have done none of that. I know this because this isn't the first game you try to host without any sort of preparation.
/gb/forum/ViewTopic.asp?TopicId=30429
When I first saw this game I did not know what to think. Did Sonny actually invest time in making a functional game? You had no rules in so I assumed you would put them in soon...
What I saw from the later posts is that the whole thing was likely improvised. The OP was a mess, the rules were vague about so much I can't even begin to comprehend what that game was even supposed to be about. I didn't comment on it at the time, because I didn't want to be disrespecful.
As I don't want to be now either by the way. Just figured that you could use some enlightment in something you are surely missing massively, Sonny.
Apart from all the rest, of course.
cheers Jon & Ric for the advice.
Jon, your point of view intrigued me, as a experienced games host, your advice did strike me at first, but upon further investigation, decided to take on the advice.
The majority of the time why I struggle with forum games was hence I lose interest very quickly (i.e. OPS - I lost my interest before the series began, because I like, let's say, a creative imagination, something that stands out. Whilst some forum games had this, other didn't & it's a massive turn off for me.
Other times, such as Football World, I enjoyed it, but left because of a hectic schedule. Real life means a lot gets in the way, and I decided to stop playing those, rather than not submit.
TERG, well... That's TERG. I'll get back to that in the summer, because I like to book the summer time off.
Ricardo's point, I can understand, considering he's new, and took steps I didn't. I mean, everyone makes mistakes, and me potentially hosting BB, with so much inexperience, was going to be one.
My first game, which I hosted, it was a mess. Looking back, I'll probably pick a real life TV show, but not as complicated as Big Brother, that's for sure :)
Thanks for the advice,
Sonny
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Quote ( Sonny Long @ November 7th 2021,17:40:14 ) but left because of a hectic schedule
If you cannot find time to play Football World with your schedule (which literally just requires submitting a short form every 2 weeks or so), then if I were you I wouldn't bother with hosting anything bigger than something like Ready, Aim, Fire or some other very (and i cannot stress the word "very" enough) simple game.
If you do, you are going to drop the game sooner or later and people will not be happy. Ignoring the fact of the game being well hosted or not.
To put it simply: no TV show in the world is going to be simple enough for you to host. In fact, I imagine most forum game concepts there are wouldn't work for you as I can clearly picture you abandoning the project in the middle of the game.
Quote ( Sonny Long @ November 7th 2021,17:40:14 ) I'll get back to that in the summer, because I like to book the summer time off.
Perhaps take this not only for TERG but for all forum games, including ones you might host :)
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Quote ( Ricardo Antunes @ November 7th 2021,17:51:24 ) Quote ( Sonny Long @ November 7th 2021,17:40:14 )
but left because of a hectic schedule
If you cannot find time to play Football World with your schedule (which literally just requires submitting a short form every 2 weeks or so), then if I were you I wouldn't bother with hosting anything bigger than something like Ready, Aim, Fire or some other very (and i cannot stress the word "very" enough) simple game.
If you do, you are going to drop the game sooner or later and people will not be happy. Ignoring the fact of the game being well hosted or not.
To put it simply: no TV show in the world is going to be simple enough for you to host.
Football World was something I was willing to do, but in the end, I started losing my focus with the other forum games.
Quote ( Ricardo Antunes @ November 7th 2021,17:51:24 ) In fact, I imagine most forum game concepts there are wouldn't work for you as I can clearly picture you abandoning the project in the middle of the game
that's why I plan to do them in the summer, to avoid that scenario.
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Just sounding out if anyone would join in if I resurrected Elite Black Sheep next season.... Kevin Abdalla used to host it but sadly he has not been around since September
Previous thread is here
/gb/forum/ViewTopic.asp?TopicId=28428&Page=1
Pretty sure I can get the spreadsheet up and running from Kevin's rules and the Google sheet but no point if no one is interested in joining in!!!!
Thumbs up on this post if you are interested - thumbs down if you think it is a stupid idea
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I will be interested KP :)
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Pick Your Favourites - S10
NEW PLAYERS WANTED!!
Pick Your Favourites returns for a 10th outing - the first season to be held in over 6 years.
All you must do is make 5 choices per week of GPRO managers (Friday races) or Football teams (weekend matches Fri-Mon).
You have 10 chips to use for each week of play and any unused chips roll-over to the following week.
The maximum score is 100 for a game week/round.
Game thread is here : /gb/forum/ViewTopic.asp?TopicId=30514#scroll
Thank you
Stuart
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I have been doing too many rants, its not good for my health :P
I will post this here since 1. I dont want to flood Ivelin's game thread and 2. It's not the first time I witness this attitude being had in the recent past.
I will cut to the chase: stop saying things like "It's just a game" and "It doesn't have any consequences" and "You shouldn't take this so seriously, its just a silly game." It's very infuriating, and doesn't contribute to anything but to impede possible troubleshooting of a game.
To be more precise to what triggered me to post this: people started blasting at Alex after he complained about the unfairness of his situation. And it was really annoying me because all he wanted was to turn the game better. And no, it isnt disrespectful like some of you were implying. In fact, I see more respect rowards the game and host in doing that than to just shut up and say nothing about the game and possible issues with it.
Im not saying people havent gone overboard with it. I have recently gone really overboard myself, thankfully that situation is resolved already. But I have seen many more situations of people not doing anything out of the ordinary and being blasted (like this situation). There was no insistance of anything, no going around in circles. If you actually look at Alex's posts, his arguments were a "counter" of another person's arguments; like it or not, that's exactly how a good argument goes. If you aren't appreciating it, you are likely on the losing side.
I'm not saying I agree with him or not. But people did portray him as some sort of no-lifer who has nothing better to do than to play forum games, because "there are more important things in life". Yes, I know there are more important things in life, it doesnt stop me from caring about this.
Here are some possible answers you might throw at me so lets just speed this up:
"But Ric, this has no importance to your life whatsoever, why do you even care? The host is doing his best, you shouldnt criticize him."
Yes, i should. And its a good thing. Its called constructive criticism. No insults are thrown and its all in the name of making the game better to play. Sometimes that isnt compatible with better to host, so its up to the host to have that balance and not go overboard with many features which will burn them out and leave them to abandon the game. At the same time, if I see something that I feel is not right then I should be able to point it out and orderly argue about it. I dont think wall posts are necessarily bad, as long as they are polite and have content.
"If you just stop trying to win at any costs and try to find loopholes, maybe you wouldnt have these issues"
I have done it before, I will do it again. Done it in mafia, done it in f1 power racing, done it in most games i entered. If i see a strategy that isnt specified as illegal in the rules nor there is anything pointing towards that, I will try to employ that strategy to win. If I think it is a grey area, I ask the host if it is ok to do it before doing it. At times I did not think it was a grey area and something you were allowed to do, and then was faced with the reality that you werent supposed to do it. It happens.
"Why do you want to win so badly anyways? Its just a game, its just for fun, chill out"
I will not chill out. There are games I play to chill out. Sports Predictions based games are some of those. I do make my picks based on my knowledge, but I dont go to great lengths to win. Other games, like Mafia, Power F1, and other games I like to play a lot, I take them seriously enough to want to win because that's how I enjoy to play the game. No, it doesn't define my life. Yes, it is important for me to win. No, I don't care that it's "just" a forum game. And I do appreciate that others have the minimal effort when joining said games too. I have gone overboard with this before, I admit, but it's still something I value and I have a lot of respect for people who step up their game to provide a good gameplay experience.
"Rules are rules, the host has the final saying, there is no point in arguing with him"
Not in the sense that you know better than him, no. However, in order to improve the game, the player's opinion should count, as they are the ones who are supposed to have fun. And if that leads to a bit of an awkward moment, so be it. Let the awkward moment happen. The host will clarify their position, and at a certain point, a conclusion will be met. That's how it goes.
However, by saying things as "It's just a game" and "you arent supoosed to take it that seriously" breaks that conversation and stops the game from progressing. And in my opinion that is not ok.
"You are very young Ric, you dont know what life is"
Shut up. I am much younger than you likely, yes, but that doesnt mean I dont have an opinion. I have had (and have) a life too. I have experienced things you havent, and you experienced things I havent. Its all about respecting the stance of others.
"You are being an asshole."
There is a thumb down button waiting for you.
Conclusion: stop being someone who says they have a very important life and let others have their conversations to improve games. If you dont want to be part of it then dont post. If you want to be part of it then say your peace. If you dont have anything better other than the obvious "there are more important things in life" which everyone knows, then you are better off not posting anything.
Thank you, and rant over :)
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I shall be bringing a new word-based game to the forums in the days after Xmas. Watch this space. :)
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Will you be finishing House of Games too Chris??? :)
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I am still not eliminated from that game. How??? xD
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Quote ( Jonathan Beagles @ December 25th 2021,00:07:18 ) Will you be finishing House of Games too Chris??? :)
Once I've figured out a way of making it a lot shorter without f'ing it all up, because it's just too much work atm.
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Quote ( Chris Adnams @ December 24th 2021,20:22:38 ) I shall be bringing a new word-based game to the forums in the days after Xmas. Watch this space. :)
WHEEL! OF! FORTUNE!
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You still need to complete that one and the dungeon ones too Jun ;)
I will accept victory too if its not meant to be :P
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Hey people
New F1FG season is fast approaching
I hope to see you all there
I will secretly tell you that there are prizes for active participants next season, so be ready ....
see you soon ....
and Happy New Year 🎉🎈🎇
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Quote ( Cezary Skonieczny @ December 31st 2021,12:25:44 ) Happy New Year
I am close. Happy New Year
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Next week sees the start of another season of the F1 Forum Game.
13 Euros - that's the prize pool (so far) for players this season, so if you've ever played F1FG it's a good time to come back and compete for prizes, if you've never played it's a good time to start, the rules are simple.
the link to the thread
/gb/forum/ViewTopic.asp?TopicId=30541#scroll
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We are approaching the start of the new F1FG season, and if you are new to the game, what better way to get started than with a tutorial?
You have less than 8 hours to join, and though you can join at any time, you risk losing the first races! We have unlimited spots as well so what are you waiting for?
/gb/forum/ViewTopic.asp?TopicId=30569#scroll
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Do you want to race 3 times a week but admins are ignoring you?? Check this silly game out;
Ultimate Race Manager S19 ---> /gb/forum/ViewTopic.asp?TopicId=30555&Page=1
Tomorrow is the first race of the season, you still have the time to look at things and submit a strategy to @Sebastian Jóźwiak (A15) . Its a mixed-rain race so there'll probably be carnage. All the fun waits for you :)
There is no DM, no randoms. Equal cars and drivers. All that matters is your strategy. Simple.
And I'm the last champion, how hard could it really be, right? ;)
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