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Topic: 2018 Tour de Ski Challenge |
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#1 Data 26 Dic 2017, 17:50:13
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It's time for the 12th Tour de Ski. This year there are 7 stages
Sprints, free
10/15 km classic, individual starts
10/15 km free, pursuits
Sprints, classic
10/15 km free, mass starts
10/15 km classic, mass starts
9/9 km, free, pursuits, final hill
In this challenge you need to pick an athlete for each stage. The total time your athletes use will decide the winner. You need to pick the skiers from the groups below. The order in which you use the groups is free.
Some remarks:
- from pursuit stages the stage time decides, not the total time
- bonus seconds count as given officially
- from the sprints the qualification time will count + official bonus seconds
- you can submit stage by stage
- if your athlete doesn't start you get the worst time from that stage from the group you picked him/her from
The deadline is when the sprint qualifying starts on Saturday the 30th at ??.?? CET.
Women
NOR
SWE/FIN
USA/AUT
RUS/SUI
GER/JPN/POL
SLO/CZE/FRA
any other
Men
NOR
SWE/FIN
FRA/RUS
CAN/SUI/GBR
JPN/USA/GER
ITA/EST/AUT
any other
I'll try to post participants list once I find one.
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#2 Data 27 Dic 2017, 20:21:50
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Stage 1:
Men: Federico Pellegrino (ITA)
Women: Katja Visnar (SLO)
Quote ( Jukka Sireni @ December 26th 2017,17:50:13 ) The deadline is when the sprint qualifying starts on Saturday the 30th at ??.?? CET.
I see that the Stage 1 qualification is set to start 10:00 CET on Saturday, well at the moment at least.
Too bad FIS (or the organisers, dunno who is the decider here) have not really sorted themselves out this year. The courses themselves can be fine, but the distances are quite dull and non-changeable. Nothing but sprints, 10/15 km and the final climb.
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Quote ( Mikko Suhonen @ December 28th 2017,00:21:49 ) Too bad FIS (or the organisers, dunno who is the decider here) have not really sorted themselves out this year. The courses themselves can be fine, but the distances are quite dull and non-changeable. Nothing but sprints, 10/15 km and the final climb.
Yeah, seems that FIS wants to standardise all the events to either sprint, 15 or 50 km. So dull. And I so badly miss 50 km individual starts. Though maybe drafting is too important in them to have one in Worlds or Olympics, but Holmenkollen could well be individual start. And generally I see no reason why that 10/15 km couldn't sometimes be halved or doubled.
Seems that I jumped over Pellegrino's Italian flag when making the groups. So it seems quite obvious pick from that group to one of the sprints.
SERONOSOVA Polina (BLR), if DNS then Fabjan (SLO)
Pellegrino (ITA)
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#6 Data 29 Dic 2017, 21:44:19
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I will enter but as it is like putting a needle in a haystack type pick will try to look at some startup list before so will post my choices very soon.
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#7 Data 29 Dic 2017, 21:47:49
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#8 Data 29 Dic 2017, 23:00:19
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Stage 1:
Men - Frederico Pellegrino (ITA/EST/AUT)
Women - Anamarija Lampic (SLO/CZE/FRA)
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#9 Data 29 Dic 2017, 23:11:51
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I'll go with this and hope to have some time tomorrow...
Stage 1:
Men: Federico Pellegrino (ITA)
Women: Katja Visnar (SLO)
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Stage 1:
Men - Federico Pellegrino (ITA/EST/AUT)
Women - Sadie Bjornsen (USA/AUT)
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Quote ( Mikko Suhonen @ December 29th 2017,21:47:49 ) Ah, don't worry about that too much - it is possible to get an idea from here for example as FIS has at least managed to get rankings for both sprints and also for regular distances:
Thanks Mikko - I will look at these over the weekend
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Stage 1:
Men - Federico Pellegrino (ITA/EST/AUT)
Women - Sadie Bjornsen (USA/AUT)
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Stage 1:
Men - Federico Pellegrino (ITA/EST/AUT)
Women - Sadie Bjornsen (USA/AUT)
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Quote ( Alan Halford @ December 29th 2017,23:33:53 ) Thanks Mikko - I will look at these over the weekend
Nice! This starts in about 9 hours, though :)
However, if someone misses the Stage 1 which is the sprints, I would say that it will not be the biggest deficit and even easy to gain back if making picks from Stage 2 onwards.
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*that one post to try and lure more people in :)*
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Quote ( Mikko Suhonen @ December 28th 2017,00:21:49 ) Stage 1:
Men: Federico Pellegrino (ITA)
Women: Katja Visnar (SLO)
Ah, it looks like Visnar is not starting, damn.
Change her to Gaia Vuerich (ITA/any other country)
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Men: Federico Pellegrino (ITA)
Women: Sandra Ringwald (GER)
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That one season when you don't choose Van Der Graaff to the sprint, haha. But Gaia did good enough. Ustyugov is a machine.
Stage 2:
Men: Alexey Poltoranin (KAZ / any other country)
Women: Justyna Kowalczyk (POL)
Quote ( Jukka Sireni @ December 28th 2017,21:56:45 ) Yeah, seems that FIS wants to standardise all the events to either sprint, 15 or 50 km. So dull. And I so badly miss 50 km individual starts. Though maybe drafting is too important in them to have one in Worlds or Olympics, but Holmenkollen could well be individual start. And generally I see no reason why that 10/15 km couldn't sometimes be halved or doubled.
Yeah the Holmenkollen one could indeed be an individual start. I liked the one skiathlon also in the tour in the past and most especially that long Toblach 30km pursuit which had one of the best sceneries in all of World Cup. There could be more 5/7,5km races too in general throughout the season.
If I remember correctly FIS was thinking about dropping the skiathlon altogether, kind of a shame but understandable due to it having that special ski shoe only for that race. However I would find it interesting if they could sometimes switch so that it is free style first and classic second, instead of always having it C+F. Much like in Nordic Combined they should sometimes do skiing first and hill second :)
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Stage 2
Anna Shevchenko (other)
Iivo Niskanen (FIN)
Player Women Men Total Gap
Jakab Zoltan 0:02:53,2 0:02:05,5 0:04:58,7 0:00:00,0
Ángel Berrón 0:03:24,3 0:02:05,5 0:05:29,8 0:00:31,1
M Mackenberg 0:03:24,3 0:02:05,5 0:05:29,8 0:00:31,1
Dominik Karda 0:03:24,3 0:02:05,5 0:05:29,8 0:00:31,1
Mikko Suhonen 0:03:31,3 0:02:05,5 0:05:36,8 0:00:38,1
Jukka Sireni 0:03:39,6 0:02:05,5 0:05:45,1 0:00:46,4
Rúben Silva 0:03:49,7 0:02:05,5 0:05:55,2 0:00:56,5
Mairo Toom 0:03:55,3 0:02:05,5 0:06:00,8 0:01:02,1
Alan Halford 0:03:55,3 0:03:21,7 0:07:17,0 0:02:18,3
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Tomorrow races start at 10:30.
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Quote ( Mikko Suhonen @ December 30th 2017,00:38:23 ) However, if someone misses the Stage 1 which is the sprints, I would say that it will not be the biggest deficit and even easy to gain back if making picks from Stage 2 onwards.
There we go, only 2min 18s of deficit at maximum so still ok chances for anyone who still joins. Plus even that deficit can be shaped off eg. by another 8s by letting that Stage 1 missed pick be Any Other Country for women and 5s by having JPN/USA/GER for men.
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Stage 2:
Men: Alexey Poltoranin (any other)
Women: Yulia Tikhonova (any other)
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Stage 2
Anna Shevchenko (any other)
Alexey Poltoranin (any other)
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Stage 2:
Men: Alexey Poltoranin (any other)
Women: Anna Shevchenko (other)
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Stage 2:
Men: Alexey Poltoranin (any other)
Women: Katerina Berouskova (SLO/CZE/FRA)
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Stage 2:
Women - Jessica Diggins (USA/AUT)
Men - Dario Cologna (CAN/SUI/GBR)
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Guess I missed the deadline as I did not know it had started already so a shot in the dark....and it seems to be the popular choice
Stage 2
Men : Alexey Poltoranin (any other)
Women :Anna Shevchenko (any other)
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Quote ( Mikko Suhonen @ December 30th 2017,14:47:31 ) Stage 2:
Men: Alexey Poltoranin (KAZ / any other country)
Women: Justyna Kowalczyk (POL)
Bah, I missed that Kowalczyk wasn't even on the start list, not even yesterday. Let's change her to Natalia Nepryaeva (RUS)
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Forgive me if I have this wrong - you better check it over and let me know if I have made any mistakes but I understand nothing of this sport
Here goes my entry
Ladies
Stage 1 Missed
Stage 2 ANY Anna Shevchenko
Stage 3 NOR Ingvild Flugstad Østberg
Stage 4 USA Sophie Caldwell
Stage 5 SUI Laurien Van Der Graaff
Stage 6 SWE Stina Nilsson
Stage 7 FRA Coraline Thomas-Hugue
Men
Stage 1 Missed
Stage 2 ANY Alexey Poltoranin
Stage 3 NOR Finn Hågen Krogh
Stage 4 RUS Sergey Ustiugov
Stage 5 SUI Dario Cologna
Stage 6 GER Thomas Bing
Stage 7 FRA Maurice Manificat
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Alan...you choosed 2 skier from Rus/Fra group.
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