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Daneks Britāls
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Старо мислење #12526 Испратено Дек 30 2017, 00:15:00 Цитирај 
Quote ( Mikie Shaw @ December 30th 2017,00:12:34 )

and learn from it.


Can you tell me what to learn from this race? Detailed please.
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Старо мислење #12527 Испратено Дек 30 2017, 00:17:39 Цитирај 
Quote ( Daneks Britāls @ December 30th 2017,00:15:00 )

Quote ( Mikie Shaw @ December 30th 2017,00:12:34 )

and learn from it.

Can you tell me what to learn from this race? Detailed please.


...... foby
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Старо мислење #12528 Испратено Дек 30 2017, 00:18:03 Цитирај 
Quote ( Mikie Shaw @ December 30th 2017,00:12:34 )

learn from it.


What have I learn? To not trust at anything else then 0% or 100%.
Does it make sense?
Is this the way we want to play the game?
Not me!
Mikie Shaw
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Старо мислење #12529 Испратено Дек 30 2017, 00:18:04 Цитирај 
simple isnt it?
Mark Van Daalen
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Старо мислење #12530 Испратено Дек 30 2017, 00:25:30 Цитирај 
i play now for 15 months
same thing happening again is unlikely...
just like real F1... rain mixed up races.
i recall that a minardi was leading the nurburgring because of early rain and he started on rain tyres...

shit happened that day all around the field (like today in gpro)
i was 3rd...then 15th! and then 2nd at finish... the gpro spectators must have been loving the action....
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Старо мислење #12531 Испратено Дек 30 2017, 00:28:23 (последно изменето Дек 30 2017, 00:32:42 од Montes Dimemola) Цитирај 
Quote ( Mark Van Daalen @ December 30th 2017,00:25:30 )

i play now for 15 months
same thing happening again is unlikely...
just like real F1... rain mixed up races.
i recall that a minardi was leading the nurburgring because of early rain and he started on rain tyres...

shit happened that day all around the field (like today in gpro)
i was 3rd...then 15th! and then 2nd at finish... the gpro spectators must have been loving the action....


The only difference being that in F1 you can REACT as it happens. Just a minor difference, though still... a difference /s

PS: Utter shit prediction....
Mikie Shaw
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Старо мислење #12532 Испратено Дек 30 2017, 00:34:31 (последно изменето Дек 30 2017, 00:36:59 од Mikie Shaw) Цитирај 
Quote ( Montes Dimemola @ December 30th 2017,00:28:23 )

The only difference being that in F1 you can REACT as it happens. Just a minor difference, though still... a difference /s


thats a more positive feedback,but sadly due to timezones it cannot happen.

all things considdered the game is awesome.

also,i wonder what the game would be like if every single equation of the game would be able to be calculated o its fullest,wouldnt that mean every car being like .0001 behind each other every race?

edit

of course there has to be some elliment of random
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Старо мислење #12533 Испратено Дек 30 2017, 00:36:52 Цитирај 
That race was a bad joke...just that
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Старо мислење #12534 Испратено Дек 30 2017, 00:37:51 Цитирај 
Quote
thats a more positive feedback,but sadly due to timezones it cannot happen.

all things considdered the game is awesome.

also,i wonder what the game would be like if every single equation of the game would be able to be calculated o its fullest,wouldnt that mean every car being like .0001 behind each other every race?


Exactly. Which is why predictions, thus planning, should take place of that. If you have none of that what is this then? Roulette? Online Casino? What are we doing here ? :P
Daneks Britāls
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Старо мислење #12535 Испратено Дек 30 2017, 00:42:55 Цитирај 
Quote ( Mikie Shaw @ December 30th 2017,00:34:31 )

also,i wonder what the game would be like if every single equation of the game would be able to be calculated o its fullest,wouldnt that mean every car being like .0001 behind each other every race?


Good manager can foresee being 0.001 slower than the competitor and choose different strategy. Here can be many different things affecting your decisions even you can calculate everything mathematicaly. Different tire suppliers, different drivers, different risks etc. etc. etc.

We don't need to increase coin toss just to get more heartattacks. Things what is completely out of human control is not good for the game. Things what is hard (but possible) to foresee is good
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Старо мислење #12536 Испратено Дек 30 2017, 00:45:10 (последно изменето Дек 30 2017, 00:45:30 од Ken Neihart) Цитирај 
As much as I think this was BS (and it was) the answer is very simple, regardless of the probability of it happening, it was like hitting a lottery but finding out the lottery went broke the night before.


even when you have a 99% chance of it raining, you still have a 1% chance of it NOT raining, it's that simple. So all you that are quitting, bye bye.

It's just a GAME PPL, and like a LOT of things in this game that don't compute to RL calcs, the weather today also did not. So WTF is the big deal......

Tissue anyone?
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Старо мислење #12537 Испратено Дек 30 2017, 00:47:20 Цитирај 
Daneks Britāls

i can only assume you have had it good until now. Having been to elite i cant understand why you think this isnt going to happen
Montes Dimemola
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Старо мислење #12538 Испратено Дек 30 2017, 00:49:28 Цитирај 
Ah, I just had an epiphany. The reason why it stopped raining is because it started to snow due to the low temps. Thus it was dry, snowing, but not raining.

I suppose there was too much AI implemented in the game engine and it just "drove" ahead of what its devs planned for.
Daneks Britāls
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Старо мислење #12539 Испратено Дек 30 2017, 00:59:26 Цитирај 
Quote ( Mikie Shaw @ December 30th 2017,00:47:20 )

i can only assume you have had it good until now. Having been to elite i cant understand why you think this isnt going to happen


Problem actually is that it is going to happen. Maybe next race. Maybe after 1000 races. Maybe never. And here is NO formula to make at least educated guess not to mention calculation
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Старо мислење #12540 Испратено Дек 30 2017, 01:11:24 Цитирај 
Quote ( Daneks Britāls @ December 30th 2017,00:15:00 )

Can you tell me what to learn from this race? Detailed please.


That people are whiny, spoiled creatures..

"Oh no.. it said it was going to rain and it didn't.. so.. so... so.. I'm quitting!!!""

Later..
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Старо мислење #12541 Испратено Дек 30 2017, 01:26:10 Цитирај 
Quote ( Daneks Britāls @ December 30th 2017,00:59:26 )

Quote ( Mikie Shaw @ December 30th 2017,00:47:20 )

i can only assume you have had it good until now. Having been to elite i cant understand why you think this isnt going to happen

Problem actually is that it is going to happen. Maybe next race. Maybe after 1000 races. Maybe never. And here is NO formula to make at least educated guess not to mention calculation


Yes it is going to happen (again). It always was and it always will. That is what probability does. In 99% (or maybe even 99,9%) of the occasions this would have been a full wet race. Well today it just wasn't one of those occasions... Just a predicted anomaly which doesn't change anything on future predictions.

Good things is that it also applies to anything with a probability, so those pipi's of yours might actually shine above everything else someday somehow in Pro ;)
Daneks Britāls
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Старо мислење #12542 Испратено Дек 30 2017, 01:34:26 Цитирај 
Quote ( Jay De Snoo @ December 30th 2017,01:26:10 )

Good things is that it also applies to anything with a probability, so those pipi's of yours might actually shine above everything else someday somehow in Pro ;)


Yeah, all this fuss is about me getting 27th spot instead of maybe 22th :D You obviously got the point. Congratz.
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Старо мислење #12543 Испратено Дек 30 2017, 01:36:12 Цитирај 
Quote ( Vladimir Alexandrov @ December 29th 2017,21:25:07 )

Guys, I've checked the scripts/logs and the weather forecast just to be sure everything is fine and there really is no bug. Simply this "special" weather forecast produced this weather scenario this time and we will have to go with it. Some smart people can even take some insights about the inner workings of the weather system from this race.


Since I'm not as smart as the game requires, I'm going to retire and unsubscribe from the game.
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Старо мислење #12544 Испратено Дек 30 2017, 01:38:22 (последно изменето Дек 30 2017, 01:40:32 од Rocco Stallone) Цитирај 
Quote ( Daniele Baraldi @ December 30th 2017,01:36:12 )

Since I'm not as smart as the game requires, I'm going to retire and unsubscribe from the game.





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Старо мислење #12545 Испратено Дек 30 2017, 01:41:20 Цитирај 
This is not a joke, it's a problem.
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Старо мислење #12546 Испратено Дек 30 2017, 01:44:18 Цитирај 
Quote ( Tibor Szuromi @ December 30th 2017,01:41:20 )

This is not a joke, it's a problem.


Beyond a joke? you say?
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Старо мислење #12547 Испратено Дек 30 2017, 01:47:24 Цитирај 
The problem is some of y'all are taking a browser game too seriously... and tbh I understand and respect that, after all, there's real money (aka credits) involved and a couple years of planning.

Still, imho, it's not worth the stress.

Enjoy your holidays.
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Старо мислење #12548 Испратено Дек 30 2017, 01:50:33 Цитирај 
I always have learnt that a probability how bigg or how low it is still a probability. Maybe 99% it is treu but don't cry if ones that 1% fly's by.

So i smoke 99% probability i get cancer do you now how mayne people still DON'T die and are smoking?😉😉
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Старо мислење #12549 Испратено Дек 30 2017, 01:54:06 Цитирај 
Quote ( Rocco Stallone @ December 30th 2017,01:44:18 )

Quote ( Tibor Szuromi @ December 30th 2017,01:41:20 )

This is not a joke, it's a problem.


Beyond a joke? you say?
Dry track - joke!
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Старо мислење #12550 Испратено Дек 30 2017, 01:55:29 (последно изменето Дек 30 2017, 01:56:05 од Jay De Snoo) Цитирај 
Quote ( Daneks Britāls @ December 30th 2017,01:34:26 )

Quote ( Jay De Snoo @ December 30th 2017,01:26:10 )

Good things is that it also applies to anything with a probability, so those pipi's of yours might actually shine above everything else someday somehow in Pro ;)

Yeah, all this fuss is about me getting 27th spot instead of maybe 22th :D You obviously got the point. Congratz.


;) that was merely a reply for me not knowing about the other tyres. I do understand why you have pipi's and you are not trying to retain.

So let's leave those comments behind us. I do hope you read and agree that an anomaly like last race (predicted to occur once every now and then) doesn't change any future predictions or models used...
(or ask yourself the question, why do people live in LA or SF while they do know that at some point in time that vault line will tear those cities apart? it is just because probability says it will happen someday but just not today, or tommorow or the day after, next week, next month, year, etc... yet it can happen at any moment)
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Старо мислење #12551 Испратено Дек 30 2017, 02:05:00 Цитирај 
Quote ( Vladimir Alexandrov @ December 29th 2017,21:25:07 )

Some smart people can even take some insights about the inner workings of the weather system from this race.

Maybe we can.
But the question is: as there are so many complaints, can you learn something about how you present the weather system to your users?......

What do all the comments from the managers to this weather tell you?

It's not the first time people complain about the weather forecast.
Maybe you need to rethink how you present the weather system to your users. On the weather forecast it says 'Rain probability'. But that is misleading and thus a NoGo in my opinion. Maybe change it to 'Rain starting probability'?

I also think you need to bring out a comment/announcement to everyone why exactly this happened (not too much in detail though :) ) to reassure (not sure if this is the correct English word) all the managers. Many managers are unhappy and a decent explanation might help.
Maybe explain why you chose the weather system as it is now, with the rain starting probability (without going into much detail ofcourse). It might help people to understand what happened.
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Старо мислење #12552 Испратено Дек 30 2017, 02:09:58 Цитирај 
I'm curious to listen the comments of the administrators about this situation!?!
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Старо мислење #12553 Испратено Дек 30 2017, 02:13:25 Цитирај 
By (S34) 34 years it was good.
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Старо мислење #12554 Испратено Дек 30 2017, 02:50:35 Цитирај 
Did it say 100%?

No...

It said 99%... get over it. Its not even a mathmatical guarantee..

If you(anyone) leaves the game over it, I say good riddance.

I never see anyone complaining when they WIN a rain roulette race.. ever..
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Старо мислење #12555 Испратено Дек 30 2017, 03:13:07 Цитирај 
I guessed the weather wrong tonight, looks like I wasn't alone. I won't complain though, with the percentages nothing was certain, most times it would be fully wet but this time not. Also it was the same forecast/same weather for everybody.
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