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Testing and Upgrade as many times as you want?
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Quote ( João Menezes @ September 3rd 2009,20:53:35 )
deleted if unreasonable
not really...
the next one who gets the same "brilliant" idea should have the opportunity to search and find that it's been presented before :)
*like in this case there are similar topics already available
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lets just imagine what race 1 in rookie would be like
Buy level 2 parts
Test
Buy level 3 parts
race 2 maybe 3 races still no money :) would be really boring
nick
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Quote ( Mikko Heikkinen @ September 3rd 2009,20:59:01 )
search and find
That is a good idea :)
I meant not to consider ;)
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Quote ( Mark Wright @ September 3rd 2009,20:34:34 )
And I'm with the majority. What strategy is involved if everyone can simply upgrade for free and have a Level 9 car in 8 races?
There's a misunderstanding going on here - Gilberto doesn't mean you should be able to upgrade for free, he means you should be free to update as many times as you want, if you have the money.
So in the same between-races session you should be able to replace parts, test, replace some more parts, test some more and so on, with the limits set only by your bank balance.
I voted no, regardless, for most of the reasons Jan posted.
-Edit- And I shouldn't go to a meeting in the middle of constructing a post, as others have pointed this out while I was away.
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Quote ( Gilberto Francisco @ September 3rd 2009,19:59:28 )
My suggestion is ...
Let the car upgrade or downgrade be free the number of times the manager wants. God damn Gil, another silly poll and suggestion? Will you never learn? Stop making these sort of things, you make us all look bad! >:/
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Quote ( António Rebelo @ September 3rd 2009,22:28:10 )
Quote ( Gilberto Francisco @ September 3rd 2009,19:59:28 )
My suggestion is ...
Let the car upgrade or downgrade be free the number of times the manager wants.
God damn Gil, another silly poll and suggestion? Will you never learn? Stop making these sort of things, you make us all look bad! >:/
all of us ... what do u mean..
all of the human race? all of us men? all of us Portuguese?
i dont belongue any group that u make part man. :D
PS: silly things and stupid decisions made the human race evolve! i learn with error ..
but as i can see Antonio ...u dont learn with error:
Season Group Final Pos Wins Podiums Poles F.Laps Points Races Av. pts/race Money Status 15 Rookie - 98 6 1 4 0 1 50 17 2.94 $-15.862.336 Retain group 14 Rookie - 98 13 0 2 0 0 16 17 0.94 $-2.729.783 Retain group 13 Rookie - 98 21 0 0 0 0 1 13 0.08 $-1.428.399 Retain group
I started the same season as you ... and never had seen the game!
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Quote ( Gilberto Francisco @ September 3rd 2009,22:33:39 )
all of us Portuguese?
This one I expect.
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Quote ( Gilberto Francisco @ September 3rd 2009,22:33:39 )
all of us Portuguese? Yes of course, here in GPRO
Quote ( Gilberto Francisco @ September 3rd 2009,22:33:39 )
but as i can see Antonio ...u dont learn with error: It isnt error, its driver building :P
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Quote ( Jan Zaluski @ September 3rd 2009,20:37:34 )
I told you the idea was missunderstood! Here's an example.
So it's not free but you can upgrade more than once between each race?
If so still no as that would just allow multiple testing. Therefore benefitting the rich.
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Gilberto, commenting on the fact of other people in rookie means nothing. It shows you are boastful and big-headed. This really means nothing.
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"No" for both Limited testing and limited upgrade forces the managers to think and plan long term effects.
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If you dont like the game why wont you make one by your self we'll how great it will be, maybe in one day you can earn 200 Bilion $. If you dont like the game dont play it and if you play it enjoy and stop complaning wrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Quote ( António Rebelo @ September 3rd 2009,22:36:06 )
It isnt error, its driver building :P
Driver building on a driver with 4 gps done?
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i find it amusing that a lot of "stupid" people are quick to call people "stupid".
i have been playing this game for over 2 years now, some 12 seasons.
i have made it to master and participated in 187 races now.
i think that this idea has some merit and have thought about it a few times myself. if i was running my own fantasy gp game an idea similar to this would be included.
you could not upgrade to a level 9 car in quick time because you could not afford it.
after last race i replace 6 of 11 parts at only level 6 and it cost me over $33m.
responses to suggestions like this should include; * no, i don't agree * maybe if some changes were made, (insert your idea) * yes, i like it
when you say "no, you are a stupid head" i think that you are really saying "welcome to the stupid head club, hear come sit next to me".
gilberto, i think your idea has merit. gpro probably has other reasons/rules/ideas that makes this not viable. at the moment at least.
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I think, with this idea implemented, we could use up our car parts far more efficiently in testing than now, because you could downgrade your worn-down parts before testing and thus be able to do more laps. Then upgrade back to previous level and finish testing for remaining testing laps. As a result, your car would have less wearing before the next race.
Example: You have lvl 4 car and average 80% wearing after race. NOW: You make few laps in testing until wear-down reach 99%, then replace old parts with new ones and finish remaining testing laps with the new car. WITH THIS IDEA IMPLEMENTED: You downgrade your car to lvl 3 and to wearing, say 60%. You can do far more testing laps with old car, because of lower wearing, before need to upgrade back to lvl 4 and finish testing.
So before the next race, your wear-down of the new car is lower, because you were able to do more testing laps with the old car and fewer laps with the new car.
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Yup, you found one of the possible exploits. :)
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Because obviously the game doesn't want you to do such things, by having a 90% rule for testing and allowing only one parts change per race. You showed how you could easily override the 90% rule if multiple parts changes would be allowed. :)
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#80 dikirim Sep 4 2009, 00:43:26 (terakhir disunting Sep 4 2009, 00:43:47 oleh Damon Cave)
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This would make the game far easier in the whole testing thing.
Even though its been said, for example:
My engine finishes on 91% wear, and is my highest worn part by a distance (say my brakes were next at 56%). I downgrade my engine, to 89%. I do 50 laps of testing, pushing the wear to 99%. I then buy a brand new engine at the same level before i downgraded. I am then free to either stay with a brand new engine or finish my testing.
Hey presto, a free 50 laps on my engine. Too easy to exploit and effectively get free testing laps out of parts.
In the current situation, i would simply have to buy a new engine, and then test.
See the problem now?
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Quote ( Troy Sheahen @ September 3rd 2009,23:15:07 )
i find it amusing that a lot of "stupid" people are quick to call people "stupid".
You can say that again eheheh
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Jan: Of course, this suggestion would change that rule ;)
Quote ( Damon Cave @ September 4th 2009,00:43:26 )
This would make the game far easier
Dont exaggerate. You would gain few more testing laps with this idea implemented, nothing extraordinary.
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Quote ( Peter Holy @ September 4th 2009,00:50:23 )
Dont exaggerate. You would gain few more testing laps with this idea implemented, nothing extraordinary.
now you're putting it down
if this would be implemented, seasons would easily be 1700 laps of testing instead of 800 laps
there would be a huge difference
as it is now it takes planning skills to achieve maximum amount of testing, if it's changed it wouldn't be required
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You could gain perhaps 20-30 laps per testing, how come 1700 vs 800, that´s a difference of 900 laps ???
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Quote ( Santtu Sara @ September 3rd 2009,23:07:02 )
Driver building on a driver with 4 gps done? Yes :D
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This idea wont work at all.
Just think testing and upgrading as many times you want.
Nahh..I would have lose my interest in this game time before with something like that
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Quote ( Samoeni Albanalopolis @ September 4th 2009,01:09:20 )
I would have lose my interest in this game
I feel for you Samoeni, but that´s not an argument ;)
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Quote ( Peter Holy @ September 4th 2009,01:13:52 )
I feel for you Samoeni, but that´s not an argument ;) Well I made my argumet time before.
Post #2 :)
But Come on now.
Testing and Upgrading all the time would be unfair to some managers with Low Cash.
Someone with 40.000.000$ would keep testing and upgrading all the time.
Very soon he would have a level 7 or higher car.
What is the point of all this?
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Quote ( Peter Holy @ September 4th 2009,01:05:05 )
You could gain perhaps 20-30 laps per testing, how come 1700 vs 800, that´s a difference of 900 laps ??? Simple, imagine two examples:
- After the race has been run, I have a bank balance of $5m an engine on 95% wear and every other part with less than 50% wear.
- After the race has been run, I have a bank balance of $5m an engine on 85% wear and every other part with less than 50% wear.
Both of these example will let me test, however in the first example I'd have to downgrade my engine first, then risk not finishing the race due to it's high probability of failing. However in the second example, I'll be able to test, then upgrade, letting me run the next race however I want.
Obviously, under the current game system, the second example shows much better money and part (wear) management. However if this idea was to be implemented, they'd both be exactly the same. You'd be rather surprised just how important it is to manage your part wear if you want to be testing throughout the season. :)
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some say it would make the game easier. but if everyone has the same opportunity (which they do) then the competitive level stays the same.
the thing that i like about it is it would give you more to do and make it more interesting.
and you can't say that it's not fair because i don't have any money. everyone has the same opportunity to earn money in the same manner. some just spend a lot more than others.
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