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Quote ( Andi Ndreçka @ June 13th 2011,15:29:43 )
oh come on,everyone know that Red Bull wants to win Vettel and they are not supporting at all webber
I no they are but what makes you think that according to this year? Vettel has won 5 out of the 7 gps and been 2nd in the other 2 so far taken 6 poles and a front row start
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If Hamilton had actually got alongside Button by driving him off the racing line, Button would certainly have spun off. The rest of the track was like a river. Hamilton was stupid enough to try and overtake Button when they were both on the racing line. Basically, he wasn't brave enough to go around the outside.
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Quote ( Colm O Neill @ June 13th 2011,15:37:26 )
I no they are but what makes you think that according to this year? Vettel has won 5 out of the 7 gps and been 2nd in the other 2 so far taken 6 poles and a front row start
that start since the last season.Webber was before Vettel in ranking and in the final race they took Webber very early in pit but they didnt take Vettel.at the end Vettel won and tooked the championship from Webber's hands
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Quote ( Jonathan MacLean @ June 13th 2011,15:34:09 )
When button looked out his mirror. Hamilton was DIRECTLY BEHIND him. well button should look more often in mirrors. :)
Quote ( Jonathan MacLean @ June 13th 2011,15:34:09 )
Hamilton caused the incident by A) going to the side which was more likely to cause an incident and B) forgetting he had a brake pedal. yes hamilton could done it later on track, but he had needed speed to take over button, so in my opinion it was total buttons fault. and i think i heard him said that on press conf. after race.
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#125 dikirim Jun 13 2011, 15:42:45 (terakhir disunting Jun 13 2011, 15:43:55 oleh Santtu Sara)
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Quote ( Finn Shaw-McIver @ June 13th 2011,15:24:21 )
Anyone who is a true motorsport fan will recognise that is one of the best drives F1 has ever seen. No matter what driver you support, a true F1 fan will know that.
Coming from a guy that cannot accept that Vettel is simply very fast driver which just got completely raped by safety cars on Canada, everytime when SC left the track he was in 5 second lead in 2 laps and then he went like 10 seconds away and again, SC. Without SC's Button wouldn't propably even been on podium.
And no one can put the blame on Hamilton for the Button - Hamilton incident, it was a racing incident. However I blame Hamilton for spinning Webber out at the beginning of the GP.
Quote ( Dubravko Romanic @ June 13th 2011,15:40:49 )
yes hamilton could done it later on track, but he had needed speed to take over button, so in my opinion it was total buttons fault. and i think i heard him said that on press conf. after race.
Exitting the last chicane Hamilton had like 10kmh more speed so would of been easy pass if Button had noticed Hamilton left side of is car..
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Quote ( Dubravko Romanic @ June 13th 2011,15:40:49 )
yes hamilton could done it later on track, but he had needed speed to take over button, so in my opinion it was total buttons fault. and i think i heard him said that on press conf. after race.
*blinks*
What.
You're saying Button should've 'moved over' to give Hamilton room?.. Give me a break what a load of tosh.
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Quote ( Dubravko Romanic @ June 13th 2011,15:40:49 )
well button should look more often in mirrors. :)
he couldnt do that!do you understand or not?
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Quote ( Jonathan MacLean @ June 13th 2011,15:43:43 )
You're saying Button should've 'moved over' to give Hamilton room?.. Give me a break what a load of tosh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCakp0zK2rM
Jonathan stop being so full of shit, when Hamilton started to pass him Button was right side of track, so when Hamilton moved left, Button started moving left hitting Hamilton's front wheel.
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Quote ( Santtu Sara @ June 13th 2011,15:45:28 )
Jonathan stop being so full of shit, when Hamilton started to pass him Button was right side of track, so when Hamilton moved left, Button started moving left hitting Hamilton's front wheel. Quote ( Jonathan MacLean @ June 13th 2011,15:34:09 )
When button looked out his mirror. Hamilton was DIRECTLY BEHIND him. He therefore took the racing line as normal.
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Quote ( Santtu Sara @ June 13th 2011,15:42:45 )
Coming from a guy that cannot accept that Vettel is simply very fast driver which just got completely raped by safety cars on Canada, everytime when SC left the track he was in 5 second lead in 2 laps and then he went like 10 seconds away and again, SC. Without SC's Button wouldn't propably even been on podium.
lol what are you talking about? Vettel was in the lead all race, so how did the safety cars put him at a disadvantage? They put him at a massive advantage.
Button is better than Vettel. Vettel would not have won from the back of the field, even in that red bull.
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Button was doing his race,Hamilton came from behind and Button didnt saw it.Hamilton forgot he has a brake pedal and push the speed pedal.who's fault is here?
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Bernd Maylander was the best! lol
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#133 dikirim Jun 13 2011, 15:52:53 (terakhir disunting Jun 13 2011, 15:55:12 oleh Santtu Sara)
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Quote ( Finn Shaw-McIver @ June 13th 2011,15:47:05 )
lol what are you talking about? Vettel was in the lead all race, so how did the safety cars put him at a disadvantage? They put him at a massive advantage.
Hahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahhaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah.
Quit playing stupid, everytime Vettel build a gap behind, a safety car arrived and again the people is right behind his back, and Button catched the pack always after his pitstops and penalties because Safety Car put the god damn cars together.
Quote ( Finn Shaw-McIver @ June 13th 2011,15:47:05 )
Button is better than Vettel. Vettel would not have won from the back of the field, even in that red bull.
Will you also say that when Button was in Brawn that the car was a lot worser than Red Bull and Brawn GP was in huge disadvantage because they had double diffusor which wasn't banned like this exhaust thing mid season.
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Quote ( Jonathan MacLean @ June 13th 2011,15:43:43 )
You're saying Button should've 'moved over' to give Hamilton room? not "moved over", just not smack hamilton into wall.
Quote ( Andi Ndreçka @ June 13th 2011,15:44:45 )
Quote ( Dubravko Romanic @ June 13th 2011,15:40:49 )
well button should look more often in mirrors. :)
he couldnt do that!do you understand or not?
? why not?
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Quote ( Dubravko Romanic @ June 13th 2011,16:02:58 )
not "moved over", just not smack hamilton into wall.
Which essentially, by going off his racing line. Would've been moving over.
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Quote ( Jonathan MacLean @ June 13th 2011,16:05:16 )
Which essentially, by going off his racing line. Would've been moving over. which would Button (or any other driver) do if he looked into his mirrors.
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Quote ( Dubravko Romanic @ June 13th 2011,16:08:35 )
which would Button (or any other driver) do if he looked into his mirrors.
... if the spray didn't blind his mirrors.
Front wheel spray kicking up through the mirrors.
Oh, and if you watch the replays. He did look in his mirrors. From whatever he could see through them, Hamilton was clearly behind him when he looked back toward the track and took the racing line
You argue Button pushed him into a wall. I argue that Hamilton could've avoided an incident.
Oh, how the rules say, "Causing an avoidable collision"...
Clearly hamilton had the better view of where the other car was... Clearly he had the ability to lift off the throttle or hit the brake pedal and... Avoid a collision.
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Quote ( Santtu Sara @ June 13th 2011,15:52:53 )
Quit playing stupid, everytime Vettel build a gap behind, a safety car arrived and again the people is right behind his back, and Button catched the pack always after his pitstops and penalties because Safety Car put the god damn cars together.
Button had to overtake 20 cars, and Vettel couldn't even hold him off? How was Button being in last place a massive advantage for him?
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Quote ( Finn Shaw-McIver @ June 13th 2011,16:20:45 )
Button had to overtake 20 cars, and Vettel couldn't even hold him off? How was Button being in last place a massive advantage for him?
No no no, just tell me how is it an advantage for Vettel to have all those safety cars pulling the cars together everytime he build a gap?
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Everyone saying JB is just cracking me up, anyone else notice how Vettel was doing the fastest lap of the race until he spun and to be fair it was his first real mistake since hitting JB in Spa, it was a great first don't get me wrong but he benefited from a small mistake.
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Can Vettel do 5 stops and a drive through then we may say differently?
I would of said equally Button and Schumacher, both had awe inspiring races, as did Kobayashi
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shut up George. you're a redbull fanboy and everyone knows it.
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#143 dikirim Jun 13 2011, 18:23:12 (terakhir disunting Jun 13 2011, 18:23:52 oleh Santtu Sara)
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Quote ( Jordan Randall @ June 13th 2011,18:21:24 )
Can Vettel do 5 stops and a drive through then we may say differently?
So you say there's no difference between changing tyres more often than other because of weather than a regular 5 stop in any dry race? Also you also say that safety cars didn't help at all? Vettel wasn't able to gain any kind of gap because 4 laps and again another safety car and in that time Vettel already had 5-10 second lead to others.
Quote ( Finn Shaw-McIver @ June 13th 2011,18:21:52 )
shut up George. you're a redbull fanboy and everyone knows it.
You just call everyone a fanboy ignoring the fact that you're the Button fanboy.
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You're attacking me because you know i'm right, like i said it was great charge from him, but he benefited from a silly mistake which even he could have made..... Vettel will still be champion, and to all those that say that Vettel is only winning because of his car, look at Webber, it's because people are too ignorant to actually see he's decent. Also just adding Button got lucky to not even have a reprimand for the Alonso incident.
Also to those that say Vettel cannot hold pressure, Abu Dhabi 2010
and to those that say he can't get from the back to the front, Silverstone 2010 and Brazil 2009.
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Quote ( Santtu Sara @ June 13th 2011,18:23:12 )
So you say there's no difference between changing tyres more often than other because of weather than a regular 5 stop in any dry race? Also you also say that safety cars didn't help at all? Thats like referring to Monaco where it was the other way around for Button/Vettel, it's exactly the same situation and i've always said, what goes around. Comes around.
Quote ( Santtu Sara @ June 13th 2011,18:23:12 )
You just call everyone a fanboy ignoring the fact that you're the Button fanboy. I'm a Button fan boy since 1998 (before he started F1) We're entitled to support who we want, but ignorance is bliss..
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I'm not ignorant, i agree it was a great win for Button, in fact it would have been a great second, his win was just pure luck though.
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#147 dikirim Jun 13 2011, 18:29:56 (terakhir disunting Jun 13 2011, 18:30:58 oleh Jun Ho)
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Koba fan in peace here. You cannot deny that Vettel did ONE FL, while Button did FL after FL. You cannot say the Button did not do a good race. He was 10th with about 15 laps left, doing lap times 2s faster than Vettel. Vettel cracked under pressure. Button kept his nerve and won. I admit that Vettel is a damn good driver, but in this race, he was not, and you must give it to Button.
Quote ( George Samuels @ June 13th 2011,18:29:24 )
his win was just pure luck though.
George. Vettel crumbled under the pressure of a genuine good driver. If drivers keep doing that to him, he will not win any races. Guaranteed.
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Quote ( Santtu Sara @ June 13th 2011,18:23:12 )
You just call everyone a fanboy ignoring the fact that you're the Button fanboy.
I'm a fan, yes, a big fan, but I'm not ignorant and stupid, I know if he's had a bad drive, or he's to blame for something. I can give other drivers credit too, Schumacher drove fantastic in the wet yesterday.
You and other fanboys can't see past who you support, you think they are the only person that is good in the sport.
Quote ( George Samuels @ June 13th 2011,18:24:27 )
and to those that say he can't get from the back to the front, Silverstone 2010 and Brazil 2009.
He didn't get to the front...
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#149 dikirim Jun 13 2011, 18:31:43 (terakhir disunting Jun 13 2011, 18:32:39 oleh Santtu Sara)
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Quote ( Jun Ho @ June 13th 2011,18:29:56 )
Koba fan in peace here. You cannot deny that Vettel did ONE FL, while Button did FL after FL. You cannot say the Button did not do a good race. He was 10th with about 15 laps left, doing lap times 2s faster than Vettel. Vettel cracked under pressure. Button kept his nerve and won. I admit that Vettel is a damn good driver, but in this race, he was not, and you must give it to Button.
He was slowing down because he thought nobody would catch him up but Button did so he increase pace = locked rear tyres and went wide and Button got past him.
Quote ( Finn Shaw-McIver @ June 13th 2011,18:30:27 )
You and other fanboys can't see past who you support, you think they are the only person that is good in the sport.
You're just bitter with your Justin Bieber hair :)
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Quote ( Finn Shaw-McIver @ June 13th 2011,18:30:27 )
He didn't get to the front...
He carved his way through the field, that's the point i'm trying too make.
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