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Kiriman lama #6150 dikirim Nov 5 2012, 23:10:02 Sebut 
Quote ( Michael Winkley @ November 4th 2012,13:02:02 )

A draw between QPR and Reading would be nice, followed by the Baggies beating Southampton. That really would heap the pressure on the bottom 3. A gap is already starting to form there.


Bingo :) Now I'm wondering which manager of the bottom 3 sides will be the first to be sacked :P
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Kiriman lama #6151 dikirim Nov 5 2012, 23:18:15 Sebut 
West Brom go 5th. And people were laughing at me when I said they played like a Brazilian team in the first math of the season against Liverpool.
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Kiriman lama #6152 dikirim Nov 5 2012, 23:26:09 Sebut 
I thought they deserved Europa league last season or near it.
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Kiriman lama #6153 dikirim Nov 6 2012, 17:40:58 Sebut 
#AskStevieG is trending on twitter just now. Some of the responses are absolute gems.

"Ryan Giggs' wife divorced him & took half of everything. How do you feel about her having 6 more Premier League medals than you?"

"#AskStevieG does it annoy u that superstars like Ronnie Wallwork Luke Chandwick and Alexei Smertin have PL medals and u dont ?"

"#AskStevieG Is Lucas the worst Brazilian since Stevie Wonder shaved his wife?"

"#AskStevieG Will there ever be a boy born who can swim faster than a shark? "

"#AskStevieG Does Jonjo Shelvey take up all the car park at training when he arrives in his space ship?"

"How important is it that the modern footballer is two-footed? #AskStevieG"

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Kiriman lama #6154 dikirim Nov 6 2012, 18:09:35 Sebut 
I'm not sure why you hate Gerrard. Things like this have trended many times before, but you only pick up on it when the jokes are aimed at a Liverpool player, Gerrard in particular. There are some footballers no-one should hate, Gerrard, Scholes, Lampard, people of that standard. So maybe you should try and appreciate talents like that before they have retired. You may seem to think you are funny, but you just appear like a sad arse who needs to put down others to get attention and make yourself feel better.

Who do you support? You are like Harrison, who apparently supports Newcastle but did not mention them at all last game and instead criticised Liverpool.

It is quite boring now. Everyday almost there is some sort of comment aimed at Liverpool.
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Kiriman lama #6155 dikirim Nov 6 2012, 22:19:06 Sebut 
Gerrard is not in the same league as scholes. I've never really rated Gerrard as a footballer. Lampard neither. Good players but not world class, not in the same league as scholes, xavi, pirlo etc.

I don't support anyone, but i equally detest arsenal, man utd, Liverpool and chelsea. Chelsea more at the moment because of how undeserved their CL win was.
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Kiriman lama #6156 dikirim Nov 10 2012, 01:53:51 (terakhir disunting Nov 10 2012, 02:14:10 oleh Stuart Foster) Sebut 
Quote ( Finn Shaw-McIver @ November 6th 2012,18:09:35 )

Everyday almost there is some sort of comment aimed at Liverpool.


*checks watch* yup, today is a new day....so, thanks to mark webster for reminding me of this little sing song ;)

oh stevie g you know what you are
stevie g you know what you are
tied his bootlaces together and he'll go far
england captaincy, liverpool legacy
if only his medals were more than a fantasy
stevie g you know what you are.......
you know what you are
you turned down chelsea, so uselfishly
but we all know you're only good enough for chester city
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Kiriman lama #6157 dikirim Nov 10 2012, 06:49:37 Sebut 
Quote ( Stuart Foster @ November 10th 2012,01:53:51 )

Quote ( Finn Shaw-McIver @ November 6th 2012,18:09:35 )

Everyday almost there is some sort of comment aimed at Liverpool.

*checks watch* yup, today is a new day....so, thanks to mark webster for reminding me of this little sing song ;)

oh stevie g you know what you are
stevie g you know what you are
tied his bootlaces together and he'll go
england captaincy, liverpool legacy
if only his medals were more than a fantasy
stevie g you know what you are.......
you know what you are
you turned down chelsea, so uselfishly
but we all know you're only good enough for chester city

:D
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Kiriman lama #6158 dikirim Nov 10 2012, 06:51:48 Sebut 
Why You all so hate Gerard? He is english after all. Here are not more than 3 english players in planet who can kick the ball so You must love one of them :D
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Kiriman lama #6159 dikirim Nov 10 2012, 08:07:01 Sebut 
Stevie G better than george best IMO

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Kiriman lama #6160 dikirim Nov 10 2012, 10:05:18 Sebut 
Stevie G is miles better than Scholes lol, I remember at Euro 2004 they were questioning Scholes' tackling ability and why he was being picked because of it. Gerrard can pass the ball just as well as Scholes but can tackle and shoot better. It's Gerrard and Lampard who are in a better class than Scholes.
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Kiriman lama #6161 dikirim Nov 10 2012, 10:54:18 (terakhir disunting Nov 10 2012, 10:58:46 oleh Stuart Foster) Sebut 
Quote ( Daneks Britāls @ November 10th 2012,06:51:48 )

Why You all so hate Gerard?


I don't hate him, I think he's a lovely bloke. It's his talent/ambition that i'm judging.

Quote ( Daneks Britāls @ November 10th 2012,06:51:48 )

Here are not more than 3 english players in planet who can kick the ball


if you think Gerrard is one of them, i'd love to know who the other two are??? England are rubbish mate and always will be...the players are overpaid and over rated. But Gerrard is just one of many.

Quote ( Daneks Britāls @ November 10th 2012,06:51:48 )

He is english after all


That's like saying, I should enjoy the talent of lewis hamilton, just because he's english. Give over.
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Kiriman lama #6162 dikirim Nov 10 2012, 11:07:54 (terakhir disunting Nov 10 2012, 11:12:34 oleh Stuart Foster) Sebut 
Quote ( Steven Tindle @ November 10th 2012,10:05:18 )

Stevie G is miles better than Scholes lol, I remember at Euro 2004 they were questioning Scholes' tackling ability and why he was being picked because of it.


O...M...G....!!!!!!!

you know what Steve...there's players that can pass the ball, there's players that can tackle. One is called a holding midfielder and the other is called a playmaker (or creative midfielder). Scholes has NEVER been able to tackle, it's not what he does. Scholes has superb vision and reading of the game, to pick out a thru ball, or get himself into a scoring position. He does it effortlessly.

Now, let's talk about Stevie G's qualities because in my mind all he is is an attacking midfielder. These players rarely exist in continental teams anymore. You have your two holding holding midfielders covering the left and right channels, a guy infront pulling the strings, two wingers who are given license to cut in as forwards and a main man thru the middle. That's how most teams shape up these days, they don't have an attacking midfielder...cos the position is dormant...why would you fill a position in the middle of the pitch with a player that has no brains and adds nothing for creativity or getting a foot in? And this is where England have been going wrong for...ooohh about 10 years now....strangely enough since Gerrard and Lampard and the golden generation. Golden my arse.

apologies for the DP.
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Kiriman lama #6163 dikirim Nov 10 2012, 11:49:16 Sebut 
Apology accepted. ;P

The one thing that is missing from most British players is that bit of composure whilst on the ball. Its kind of understandable given the style and nature of our football over the years, and its something that is hard to change. However, with the changes currently being made in youth football, over time that is certainly going to change. The problem is that most European countries are way ahead in that respect.
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Kiriman lama #6164 dikirim Nov 10 2012, 12:30:20 (terakhir disunting Nov 10 2012, 12:41:17 oleh Finn Shaw-McIver) Sebut 
Gerrard has done it all with a bad team around him most of the time. Scholes and Lampard have done it with great teams around them, that is the difference. There are quotes from people such as Zidane and Pele about him, here they are http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/409767_4320396...

The key difference is the fact Gerrard has won almost everything but in a team that shouldn't have won them. He in some cases is singlehandedly responsible for the trophies he has won. Lampard has always been with good players, and Scholes has been with good players but is a better player than Lampard anyway (in my opinion), he can't tackle though.
Quote ( Stuart Foster @ November 10th 2012,11:07:54 )

let's talk about Stevie G's qualities because in my mind all he is is an attacking midfielder.

But he has not played in that position for years. He can play in ANY position. Defender, midfielder, striker, because he can do all of them extremely well (and he has played in all of those positions)

but, I'm sure he does not care, he will always be adored by Liverpool fans and is a living legend. I rank him as the greatest Liverpool player of all time, he came second in the 100 players that shook the kop poll (Dalglish first), but I would put Gerrard first. Dalglish played with a good team. And I know how respected he is in other countries - It is just in this country because obviously other people support different English football team. I know that:) But as Stuart said, he is a lovely bloke, as are Scholes and Lampard, so that alone deserves respect:)
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Kiriman lama #6165 dikirim Nov 10 2012, 14:01:39 Sebut 
Quote ( Finn Shaw-McIver @ November 10th 2012,12:30:20 )

he is a lovely bloke, as are Scholes and Lampard, so that alone deserves respect:)


lol, respect.

John Terry is also....

no...I can't.
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Kiriman lama #6166 dikirim Nov 10 2012, 14:06:43 Sebut 
Quote ( Finn Shaw-McIver @ November 10th 2012,12:30:20 )

Gerrard has won almost everything but in a team that shouldn't have won them.


true, and actually, you could (almost) say the same about Gheorge Hagi. Wonderfully gifted player he was...sure he won things in his late career with Galatasary in the turkish league, but won little at Barca or Real Madrid.
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Kiriman lama #6167 dikirim Nov 10 2012, 17:53:07 Sebut 
LOL Arteta lost a penalty in the last minute of the match
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Kiriman lama #6168 dikirim Nov 10 2012, 17:56:30 Sebut 
referee made the wrong decision in awarding the penalty so it is a bit of justice that Arteta missed.
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Kiriman lama #6169 dikirim Nov 10 2012, 17:59:45 (terakhir disunting Nov 10 2012, 18:00:13 oleh Stuart Foster) Sebut 
Quote ( Egzon Brajshori @ November 10th 2012,17:53:07 )

LOL Arteta lost a penalty in the last minute of the match


hehe, yup. you get what you deserve in this game. once the 38 games are up there's no blaming referee's or pointing to individual games and saying that's where a season was won or lost. after 38 games you are where you are because you were consistently something...luck and referee decisions leave the equation. I don't think arsenal will be top 4...so it will interesting to see Wenger's insight/excuses come-what-may.
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Kiriman lama #6170 dikirim Nov 10 2012, 18:04:46 Sebut 
Quote ( Stuart Foster @ November 10th 2012,17:59:45 )

so it will interesting to see Wenger's insight/excuses come-what-may.


imo he is not the right one anymore.Getting someone else would be better for Arsenal he is not fergie to be able to keep a team at a high level for 15+ years
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Kiriman lama #6171 dikirim Nov 10 2012, 18:07:50 Sebut 
Quote ( Egzon Brajshori @ November 10th 2012,18:04:46 )

he is not fergie to be able to keep a team at a high level for 15+ years


However Wenger has done that, so your statement is false.
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Kiriman lama #6172 dikirim Nov 10 2012, 18:12:42 Sebut 
Depends of your definition of "high level" - when did he last win a trophy? :p
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Kiriman lama #6173 dikirim Nov 10 2012, 18:15:52 Sebut 
Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ November 10th 2012,18:12:42 )

Depends of your definition of "high level" - when did he last win a trophy? :p


I meant it towards their performance in the premier league :P.
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Kiriman lama #6174 dikirim Nov 10 2012, 18:16:57 Sebut 
Finally an away clean sheet for Norwich, and against the mighty Reading too! Party time tonight methinks :D
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Kiriman lama #6175 dikirim Nov 10 2012, 18:21:54 Sebut 
Quote ( Joe Manifold @ November 10th 2012,18:15:52 )

I meant it towards their performance in the premier league :P.


lol, yeah, they didn't win it, hence kev's argument :)
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Kiriman lama #6176 dikirim Nov 10 2012, 18:24:03 Sebut 
looking forward to chelsea-liverpool game tomorrow.should be a cracker.
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Kiriman lama #6177 dikirim Nov 10 2012, 18:24:41 (terakhir disunting Nov 10 2012, 18:24:51 oleh Daneks Britāls) Sebut 
Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ November 10th 2012,18:12:42 )

Depends of your definition of "high level"


Exactly. Wenger is trainer. Winning a league with full row of superstars is one thing (and Wenger did show that he can do it) but developing less known players to superstars is another.
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Kiriman lama #6178 dikirim Nov 10 2012, 18:26:08 (terakhir disunting Nov 10 2012, 18:27:13 oleh Daneks Britāls) Sebut 
Quote ( Stuart Foster @ November 10th 2012,10:54:18 )

if you think Gerrard is one of them, i'd love to know who the other two are???


Frenky Lamp comes in mind first.

Quote ( Stuart Foster @ November 10th 2012,14:01:39 )

John Terry is also....


Yes. He is excellent def...He is!
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Kiriman lama #6179 dikirim Nov 10 2012, 18:37:15 Sebut 
C,mon Villa:)
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