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What is your opinion on Jun's claim about Laila?
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Quote ( Martin Carson @ July 10th 2011,08:48:12 )
Matt, I've seen Laila post that bad quite a lot over the years. I feel quite stupid that I never noticed two different people were posting, looking back, it was that obvious. :D
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My english skills isn't the best. my ex-teammates at Ignition can clearly tell you about that. btw i can perfectly write things there - spending two or three times more than if i was writing in portuguese and asking help to google sometimes.
by the way, i really can't SPEAK english, or listen to it. depending on your accent, if you ask me things like elite group or tyre supplier I'll probably don't understand what are you talking about. so if laila for any reason didn't understand things properly during the meeting, it doesn't mean anything.
I'm playing gpro for a long time and I read "Laila" posts many times. For me it's clearly obvious now that there are two different writing styles in her posts.
btw: two minds are always better than one. is that fair?
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Quote ( Piotr Tarnawski @ July 12th 2011,13:42:43 )
Account name is: Laila Britāle. Laila (person) is not playing the game (maybe except posting on forum). All hard work is done by her partner. So he is doing 99.9% of work, she just post sometimes if even that.
That is why we have this discussion.
Has that been proven know. Last time I checked it wasn't. The claim was Laila's partner helps with translations and calculations, not that he is doing 99.9% of the work.
If you can direct me to where the concrete evidence showed up then I will stand corrected (the argument of her not knowing anything about GPRO is the only "evidence" of this I can find, but that has been refuted by the one person who spoke to her about it in her native language, and there is no claim that her partner helped before season 10 and Laila's history shows she done not to badly before then either, so she must know something!)
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I wish you were there Kev, you wolud have seen straight away :-) He knew everything about every Tiger event, If they both use it fine, but I think I can quote him by saying
"I do the calculations and translations"
Whats left? She types things?
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Quote ( Keri Lovell @ July 12th 2011,22:24:41 )
I wish you were there Kev, you wolud have seen straight away :-) He knew everything about every Tiger event, If they both use it fine, but I think I can quote him by saying
"I do the calculations and translations"
Whats left? She types things?
Now that is more like evidence. :)
I accept Keri's opinion, as he was there. So it is just a matter of if the account is shared or if it is nothing to do with Laila (so a fake name issue, nothing more). However, either way cannot be totally proved so don't see the point of anyone stressing about it.
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Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ July 12th 2011,22:30:04 )
Now that is more like evidence. :)
I accept Keri's opinion, as he was there. So it is just a matter of if the account is shared or if it is nothing to do with Laila (so a fake name issue, nothing more). However, either way cannot be totally proved so don't see the point of anyone stressing about it.
I was saying to all the guys on the last day, that the reason its 'news' and everyone gets so annoyed is because of the supernova thing. 'Laila' was the most vocal in the 'they are cheats' thing and then to find that her account is shared, is bound to cause a stir.
My mum always said, 'Dont throw stones in glass houses, and tidy your room you little shit'
Im still trying to work out how they were related but at least my room is tidy. :-p
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The question is who did the tidying for you Keri :p
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Haha, not my missus mate, she hasnt spoken to me, so I might call my mum, lol!
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I was there as well and is a bit confused about all this and what is correct and what is not. From what I can tell Laila was either shy or wasn't very comfortable with speaking English. As some people already has said it's much easier to type then to speak a second language. You get time to think what to write, you don't get that if you speak. It's also easier to read stuff then listen to what is being said.
It was still fun to meet Laila and get to see who she is in real life. Even if someone else does most the calculations and stuff. After all this is just a game, I'm glad I could meet up with some latvians and all other people who made the effort to come to the meeting.
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Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ July 12th 2011,22:19:54 )
Has that been proven know. Last time I checked it wasn't. The claim was Laila's partner helps with translations and calculations, not that he is doing 99.9% of the work.
If you can direct me to where the concrete evidence showed up then I will stand corrected (the argument of her not knowing anything about GPRO is the only "evidence" of this I can find, but that has been refuted by the one person who spoke to her about it in her native language, and there is no claim that her partner helped before season 10 and Laila's history shows she done not to badly before then either, so she must know something!)
I was there I saw what i saw and heard what I heard what proof do you need ?
Guy say :"I am doing calculation and translation"
So 99.9% of the game
Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ July 12th 2011,22:30:04 )
Now that is more like evidence. :)
I accept Keri's opinion, as he was there. So it is just a matter of if the account is shared or if it is nothing to do with Laila (so a fake name issue, nothing more). However, either way cannot be totally proved so don't see the point of anyone stressing about it.
I was there too , what is your problem ?
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Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ July 12th 2011,22:30:04 )
Now that is more like evidence. :)
I accept Keri's opinion, as he was there. So it is just a matter of if the account is shared or if it is nothing to do with Laila (so a fake name issue, nothing more). However, either way cannot be totally proved so don't see the point of anyone stressing about it. What is the solution according to you?
say what you want to say, you opened this thread 4 days ago, and put Jun's name all over... but I see you are only throwing rocks, and don't talk by yourself.. Please, can you write your opinion?
Quote ( Keri Lovell @ July 12th 2011,22:24:41 )
"I do the calculations and translations"
Whats left? She types things?
Calculation and translation.. I might be doing one of them wrong, cause I'm stuck in Amateur.. lol
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Quote ( Piotr Tarnawski @ July 13th 2011,02:10:05 )
I was there I saw what i saw and heard what I heard what proof do you need ? Quote ( Piotr Tarnawski @ July 13th 2011,02:10:05 )
I was there too , what is your problem ?
You being there and actually hearing it is pretty good. :) Sorry but I didn't realise you were there or was part of the conversation so had just assumed you were going with what had been said in the thread, and there was no proof in the thread. The fact that you were there is different and is as good evidence as what Keri then said.
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Quote ( Marcelo Ascencio @ July 13th 2011,02:55:09 )
What is the solution according to you?
Why should I have a solution? lol. I think I've already put my view across but here is my latest opinion again, with the information I now know (views can change as more information becomes apparent)...Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ July 12th 2011,22:30:04 )
So it is just a matter of if the account is shared or if it is nothing to do with Laila (so a fake name issue, nothing more). However, either way cannot be totally proved so don't see the point of anyone stressing about it.
I have no issue with a shared account, it doesn't bother me and I don't think there is a problem with them doing it. If it has nothing to do with Laila then it is a fake name issue and should be dealt with like any other fake name (changed to correct name is only course of action I am aware of), but I really don't think that is a big deal, as I stated in my opening post, and there is no way to prove that anyway.
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Quote ( Marcelo Ascencio @ July 13th 2011,02:55:09 )
say what you want to say, you opened this thread 4 days ago, and put Jun's name all over... but I see you are only throwing rocks, and don't talk by yourself..
You might want to go back and read my opening post, Marcelo. Of course I put "Jun's name all over" as the thread was about the claim Jun made! The discussion that has taken over the thread is nothing to do with what my opening post spoke about and nothing to do with the reason I opened this thread.
Jun made the claim that Laila's partner was fully responsible for the Laila account and I created this thread and poll to ask if we believed Jun or if Jun was having a joke with us or someone was having a joke with Jun. You can see from my poll options and opening post that I hadn't even considered the possibility of a shared account, so there is no way I could have known that the topic would turn in to a discussion about that.
At the time, I was very much of the belief it was some kind of wind up either by Jun or at the expense of Jun (I actually choose option 2 myself about Jun trying to wind the community up) and the point of the thread was a fun, light-hearted discussion about if it was true that Laila was a fake name account ran by her partner or if it was some kind of wind up (either Jun winding the community up or someone winding Jun up).
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My problem with this that the account user take advantage of people acting as a woman. She admitted she use to get support credits from team mate , I don't know if she would get one if they knew that is not she. And second thing, you talk in different way with block than girl... Do you know what I mean?
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'Laivex' has gone very quiet lately dont you think?
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He has put her under lock and key so that his sole purpose now is calculations......tends to need less time onoine, and doesn't require any posting.
Go Tigers.
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Just as a reminder, the only (I think?) guy to speak to Laila in person in Latvian said;
Quote ( Uldis Slaidins @ July 10th 2011,11:58:37 )
sorry, Brits, but you got it little bit wrong. yes Laila and her husband share account, but it's Laila who's registered and controlled it most of time so far. it's Laila who writes in forums and she clearly HAS knowledge about Gpro. when we spoke in Latvian it was clear for me. I also recall him mentioning on the Gulf forum, some seasons ago, that he had spoken with Laila on the phone about GPRO (he mentioned this as a passing comment, rather than as part of a discussion on how "real" Laila was).
"helping with calculations and some translation" could mean anything really. Might just be that "Darvex" has been working on some of the more tricky game formulae, whilst Laila has been doing the management.
But, regardless, I think it would be a shame if Laila were to quit the game. She hinted at it in her last (or one of her last) posts - that Darvex might take over the account. We would lose a lot of forum entertainment, and a damned good manager.
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Quote ( Keri Lovell @ July 13th 2011,13:51:56 )
'Laivex' has gone very quiet lately dont you think?
Yes indeed, was make's te impresion that after all is just not typing the keyboard!!!
But one think you must notice, the efort to try not to clone previous posts is something that really amused me....
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That's the point she is not good manager, her partner is
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Quote ( Piotr Tarnawski @ July 13th 2011,13:50:28 )
She admitted she use to get support credits from team mate , I don't know if she would get one if they knew that is not she. And second thing, you talk in different way with block than girl... Do you know what I mean?
I know what you mean, but I can't see it being a real advantage in this game. You're not going to use lower risks because you are racing against someone you think is a girl. :)
The supporter credit thing is a big deal for those involved though and I can imagine anyone that has done that feeling really stupid and very let down as you would think anyone that would do that for her/him would class her/him as a friend. But that is an issue for the individuals and not related to the game as a whole.
Quote ( Keri Lovell @ July 13th 2011,13:51:56 )
'Laivex' has gone very quiet lately dont you think?
Very! I would expect Laila to be on defending herself, and pointing out exactly what Andrew has just mentioned! :)
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Quote ( Andrew Watson @ July 13th 2011,14:01:22 )
"helping with calculations and some translation" could mean anything really. Might just be that "Darvex" has been working on some of the more tricky game formulae, whilst Laila has been doing the management.
This is quite reasonable. Laila is good at working the management part of the game (actually playing), while husband apparently comes up with the data she uses to do the job.
No much diffenrently when you join a team and gets access to some sort of tool that automates tyre/fuel/part wear etc.
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You are right Kevin, but I just was looking at her as guard of honesty and it's turn out that she was not honest at all. I agreed no game rules has been broken, but after such a argue on supernova we can see she's two faces .
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Quote ( Keri Lovell @ July 12th 2011,22:44:29 )
Haha, not my missus mate, she hasnt spoken to me, so I might call my mum, lol! Would she be pleased to see your mum though?!
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'Laivex' has gone very quiet lately dont you think?
I am staging a coup, the team will soon be known as Tiguars.
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Quote ( Lee Ifans @ July 14th 2011,01:25:22 )
I am staging a coup, the team will soon be known as Tiguars.
with "Hello Kitty" as the logo :P
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this thread si still alive?
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Does Laila really like Rap or it's Darvex's music? :P
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Is that so hard to figger it out?
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