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Who will win this year's Tour de France ?
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My Podium: Andy-Frank-Cadel =D Green: Cavendish Polkadot: Andy too or Vanendert :) White: I hope Uran can win :(
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i love the Underdog so i would like to see Voeckler win but i just dont see it im thinking it will be Evans winning this year but it will be a close one :P
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What a start of this stage !
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I'll repeat my words from post #5 in this thread... Pierre Roland has been incredible in the mountains.
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What a stage, that was great to watch.
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Will cav make it this time?
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imagine if Voeckler had cracked at Pyrenees already... where could Rolland be now? :s
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I bet my money on C. Evans. in tomorrows timeTrail hes going to beat A. Schleck by over 1 min. at least... Andy lost the Tour de France today, by not trying to gain some more time over Evans. The 57s. difference is not enough.
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The autobus won't make it. Average speed suggests time limit of 10% of race winners' time of 193 minutes and the odd few seconds, so 212 minutes and around 20 odd seconds.
Edit: 83rd position was just over 19 minutes down. If they come in a bus then they will all get docked points in the points classification.
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19 seconds out, but the group is big enough so he loses another 20 points
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Quote ( Michael Winkley @ July 22nd 2011,18:14:19 )
The autobus won't make it. Average speed suggests time limit of 10% of race winners' time of 193 minutes and the odd few seconds, so 212 minutes and around 20 odd seconds. Quote ( Mikey Twigge @ July 22nd 2011,18:16:55 )
19 seconds out, but the group is big enough so he loses another 20 points
Was Rojas in the time limit again?... This would be awesome to actually have the Green Jersey close with Cavendish losing 20 more points
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British TV don't know yet, they think he might be though, so hopefully cav will still lead by 15 points
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Quote ( Michael Monaco @ July 22nd 2011,18:19:23 )
Was Rojas in the time limit again?
must have been outside the time limit, as cav has just taken the podium
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Looks like Rojas was outside but Gilbert inside.
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Quote ( Janne Väänänen @ July 22nd 2011,18:07:57 )
imagine if Voeckler had cracked at Pyrenees already... where could Rolland be now? :s Indeed. Always painful to see a helper sacrifice his own podium chances. Thinking back to Indurain in 90 (for Delgado), Ulrich in 96 (for Riis), Heras during Armstrong reign and also Van Den Broeck for Evans last year.
Quote ( Ricardo Ramalho @ July 22nd 2011,18:12:49 )
Andy lost the Tour de France today, by not trying to gain some more time over Evans. The 57s. No. If he loses, it would be because of his delay in the downhill on that rainy day. Contador has had bad luck in the beginning and isn't in Giro form for obvious reasons, Andy has had bad luck in one stage just like last year, Fränk is just lacking that extra bit to become a Tour winner, several others has had falls and lost time or had to retire and so Evans has been the only real favourite without bad luck. Well, he was unlucky with that technical failure today, but not on a critical moment, costing him time loss.
Quote ( Michael Winkley @ July 22nd 2011,18:28:31 )
Looks like Rojas was outside but Gilbert inside. If Gilbert would have made sure to be inside time limit yesterday as well, he might still have had a chance. But he had a good Tour anyway.
I think we might get another 1989 final Timetrial outcome. Only about 10 seconds between numbers 1 & 2. Evans sure is the better time trial rider, but the stage is said to be pretty hilly and after a long Tour it might still be difficult to catch back 1 minute to Andy. And if only a few seconds would seperate them after tomorrow, I would like to see some fight in the final stage for once (though I know it is not done) !
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Cadel's technical issues in the earlier part of today's stage has probably turned out to be a blessing in disguise. I think that it would have been suicide to go with Contador for such a long time, like it proved to be for the others. I hope that he puts in a great time trial because he probably deserves to take the yellow jersey just for his aggression throughout the tour.
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Andy or Cadel would deserve it both. Andy even more if you take into account last year as well.
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Quote ( Michael Winkley @ July 22nd 2011,19:00:41 )
I hope that he puts in a great time trial because he probably deserves to take the yellow jersey just for his aggression throughout the tour.
He hasn't been very aggressive at all, he has simply reacted to other riders aggression. He has been the one who was prepared to put in the effort when the others weren't, which was really impressive.
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I was quite unimpressed with Voeckler today tbh...brave ride, but really stupid on the 2nd climb. What he was thinking there i'll never know.
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He bloody well attacked one of those scary descents, getting time on every one of his rivals. I've always respected the crazy guys that thing its good to go gung ho down a mountain when the edge of the road is the edge of a steep drop. Its dangerous as hell, so if you are willing to attack then, then you get my vote.
Edit: Voeckler just got stuck in no mans land. I think that he kind of had to fend for himself today since he would have known that relying on his team for help was going to jeopardize the more realistic eventuality of Rolland picking up the white jersey.
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Oh he's had an awesome tour and has a lot of respect form me too.
But still, wtf was the yellow joursey doing in no man's land on the 2nd climb when he's not as good a climber as the group ahead or the group behind?
Utter loonacy.
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Quote ( Sion Francis @ July 22nd 2011,19:23:52 )
But still, wtf was the yellow joursey doing in no man's land on the 2nd climb when he's not as good a climber as the group ahead or the group behind?
Utter loonacy.
very true. logic has it that he should have stuck with his main rivals, for the podium, i.e. Evans and F. Schelck.
Wasted so much energy trying to go after Contador. He could possibly have stayed with the main contenders at the finish if he hadn't used up all his energy early in the stage.
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Quote ( Michael Winkley @ July 22nd 2011,19:18:40 )
He bloody well attacked one of those scary descents, getting time on every one of his rivals.
That is true, I didn't watch that stage but I heard it was a pretty impressive descent. Downhill attacks mainly depend on your competitors making a mistake (or simply losing their bottle), unless there is a major difference in quality to get any sort of big time gain.
I'm going to predict that Andy Schleck won't be significantly worse in the time trial tomorrow and will retain the yellow jersey.
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Quote ( Dan Neumann @ July 22nd 2011,19:29:42 )
I'm going to predict that Andy Schleck won't be significantly worse in the time trial tomorrow and will retain the yellow jersey. By 1 second ! :-D
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At the time the chasing group was losing ground on him, let alone the leading group. In hindsight it was the wrong decision, but sometimes its better to try to take up the fight yourself than to rely upon others. Remember, on many occasions he got within 25s of Contador, and would have bet his bottom dollar on catching them on the descent with such a small margin to make up. Granted, he'd never have stayed with them on the last climb, but that would probably have been the case regardless of how he rode the stage.
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#56 dikirim Jul 22 2011, 22:16:39 (terakhir disunting Jul 22 2011, 22:17:59 oleh Adam Wilsher)
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These last 2 stages of the Tour de France have been 2 of the best stages I've seen in many years of watching le Tour! I'm still going for a Cadel Evans win, but it's going to come down to seconds!
Oh and Sanchez takes the KOM title with his 2nd place today!
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this might be one of the few years well there might be an attack on the final stage cause this is looking to be a close one
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Decision is coming too early. :(
EDIT : The Schlecks are turning into Shreks !
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I hope that Cadel Evans doesn't fade in the latter part of the stage. Its predominantly downhill (ish) though, so he should be fine.
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Cadel can still do a Menchov.
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