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Quote ( Chris Anello @ August 28th 2011,15:36:45 )
A real champion does less mistakes, he's good, yes, but not a champion.
Less than what? A single mistake in a season? In this case noone from the past few years is a champion at all, neither Alonso nor Raikkonen nor Hamilton nor Button nor Vettel and maybe not even Schumacher.
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Didn't say it was his fault then did he. I think the car behind should be aware of the car infront surely???
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Impressive run from Vettel, that's a drive that will win him the championship for sure. Well done to Button and Schumacher, great comebacks from both those guys! Lots of action from today's race, Spa as always, another good one! :)
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Quote ( Aaron Mullan @ August 28th 2011,15:45:31 )
Didn't say it was his fault then did he. I think the car behind should be aware of the car infront surely???
Yeah, that's why we both agree Barrichello should be punished last year for trying to overtake Schumacher at dangerous place?
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Quote ( Aaron Mullan @ August 28th 2011,15:38:38 )
caused by Kobayashi turning into Hamilton. 100%
AHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
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Looking at Hamilton's on board again, Hamilton turned right just before the contact with Kobayahi
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Agree 100% with everything Eddie Jordan has just said about the crash
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Get a grip Jed. Racing incident. Neither driver moved their steering wheel and paths crossed. Your starting to get on my wick now.
I took that back Aki. Knob.
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Quote ( Jamie Morris @ August 28th 2011,15:46:53 )
Looking at Hamilton's on board again, Hamiltom turned right just before the contact with Kobayahi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6fUXqhUXIg
Just look at this vid Lukas posted, look at the white line and Hamilton's car..
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Quote ( Aaron Mullan @ August 28th 2011,15:47:57 )
Get a grip Jed. Racing incident. Neither driver moved their steering wheel and paths crossed. Your starting to get on my wick now.
Hamilton did. :) If you watched BBC just bit ago it showed that he obviously moved right before the crash.
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Quote ( Lukas Jonaitis @ August 28th 2011,15:43:59 )
German interview, he said that he didn't really understand what happened, because he didn't see Koba there.
And yet you said it was Hamilton fault
Like I said Hamilton should have looked in his mirrors but he didn't expect Kobayshi will try to overtake so basically no one fault just a racing incident
Quote ( Aaron Mullan @ August 28th 2011,15:47:57 )
Get a grip Jed. Racing incident. Neither driver moved their steering wheel and paths crossed. Your starting to get on my wick now.
+1
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Quote ( Santtu Sara @ August 28th 2011,15:48:57 )
Just look at this vid Lukas posted, look at the white line and Hamilton's car..
Hamilton fans will say the line walked of to the other side of the track.
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Quote ( Aki Perätalo @ August 28th 2011,15:46:38 )
Yeah, that's why we both agree Barrichello should be punished last year for trying to overtake Schumacher at dangerous place?
What are you talking about now. I think that was a slightly different situation. You just love to argue???
If he moved right that was away from Kobayashi.
That is wrong. He was moving left and Kobayashi stayed straight but they were both in a straight line and paths crossed.
Racing incident. What is there to argue about?????
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Quote ( Sebastian Cucciardi @ August 28th 2011,15:49:49 )
but he didn't expect Kobayshi will try to overtake so basically no one fault just a racing incident
Why he left space for Kobayashi then :)
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Quote ( Sebastian Cucciardi @ August 28th 2011,15:49:49 )
And yet you said it was Hamilton fault
Omg, no it was Kobayashis fault that Hamilton didn't check his mirrors and turned right into him.
'Didn't except to overtake', jesus christ, no one excepted Button to overtake Massa at bus stop, but he did, should he get a drive trough or something too for being unexpected?
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Quote ( Aaron Mullan @ August 28th 2011,15:50:53 )
Quote ( Aki Perätalo @ August 28th 2011,15:46:38 )
Yeah, that's why we both agree Barrichello should be punished last year for trying to overtake Schumacher at dangerous place?
????
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Nice race :)
Again, it was Hamilton's fault the incident with Kobayashi so all you Lewis lovers dont even bother defending him because it was pretty clear that Hamilton was on the right of the track and then moved towards the left leaving nowhere for Kobayashi to go, 100% Lewis' fault :L:L
Good ace Mercedes, 18 points :) Nice drive Schumacher! :D
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Quote ( Aaron Mullan @ August 28th 2011,15:50:53 )
What are you talking about now. I think that was a slightly different situation. You just love to argue???
No, you basically just said that person behind is always fault at similar overtkaing accidents, what's the difference between this and that episode, except that this time accident actually happened? Bit more unluck and Kobayashi could have had big crash because Hamilton not being able to watch at his mirrors.
Im not saying it wasn't racing accident, but once again a 'racing accident' caused by Hamilton, which we see every race at least 2 times. And every time all he gets is warnings :D
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Quote ( Lukas Jonaitis @ August 28th 2011,15:51:41 )
Omg, no it was Kobayashis fault that Hamilton didn't check his mirrors and turned right into him.
It was a racing incident a 50-50 I don't see hamilton turning any where before the collision
Quote ( Santtu Sara @ August 28th 2011,15:51:26 )
Why he left space for Kobayashi then :)
He took his line to prepare for the next corner ...
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I was wrong, too. It's Hamilton fault, it was different from the live race
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Lewis didnt check his mirror, Kobayashi didn't react to hamilton getting closer by yielding.
Both drivers could have avoided the accident by either brakeing or turning away. Choosing to point purely at one driver is just a way of ignoring what really happened.
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Such a shame with Hamilton! Can't believe there was no action.
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Quote ( Steven Tindle @ August 28th 2011,15:54:42 )
Lewis didnt check his mirror, Kobayashi didn't react to hamilton getting closer by yielding.
If he braked he would've still hit Hamilton (wheels interlocked) because he edged him out so much and both would've been out.
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Quote ( Steven Tindle @ August 28th 2011,15:54:42 )
Lewis didnt check his mirror, Kobayashi didn't react to hamilton getting closer by yielding.
Both drivers could have avoided the accident by either brakeing or turning away. Choosing to point purely at one driver is just a way of ignoring what really happened.
I completely agree with you here Steven
Quote ( Aaron Mullan @ August 28th 2011,15:56:32 )
It is the responsibility of the car behind not to hit a car into a braking zone.
Exactly
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Quote ( Craig Mclean @ August 28th 2011,15:52:06 )
No, you basically just said that person behind is always fault at similar overtkaing accidents, what's the difference between this and that episode, except that this time accident actually happened? Bit more unluck and Kobayashi could have had big crash because Hamilton not being able to watch at his mirrors.
No I didn't. It is the responsibility of the car behind not to hit a car into a braking zone. Schumacher tried to run Barichello right into the wall. Totally different.
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Quote ( Aaron Mullan @ August 28th 2011,15:56:32 )
Schumacher tried to run Barichello right into the wall. Totally different.
Its not Schumacher edged Barrichello off the track, similar to what happened with Hamilton except they were at a corner.
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Are we going to have a "Hamilton vs ______ who's fault was it" poll every race? Hamilton is clearly doing something wrong to be involved in a crash every week, once or twice is bad luck but all the time means he's obviously doing something very wrong.
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Maybe Jed but I wouldn't see it as Hamilton defending. Schuey was looking in his mirror to see Barichello was there and still kept squeezing but Hamilton was just trying to take the corner.
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Quote ( Aaron Mullan @ August 28th 2011,16:00:18 )
but Hamilton was just trying to take the corner.
But he hadn't finished the overtake then (he hadn't realised though), the crash is the same as Massa vs MS at Montreal last year, everybody blamed Schumacher for driving into the side of Massa, but now there are different drivers everybody has suddenly changed their opinions.
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