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Kiriman lama #121 dikirim Ogo 29 2011, 23:12:37 Sebut 
Quote ( Lucas Dantas @ August 29th 2011,21:14:29 )

Senna!
Talent earned by his blood.


Yet many great champions had siblings; And only one have achieved the same, win a F1 championship.
Others had nephews too, Juan Manuel Fangio, for example, and his nephew even though he was a good driver never made it.
And F1 champions brother's, Shumacher Ralf and Michael, Sheckter Ian and Jody, Etc.
As you see having the same last name does not make anyone talented.
We all miss Ayrton, but lets judge with real performances, not only with other drivers achievements.
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Kiriman lama #122 dikirim Ogo 29 2011, 23:14:51 Sebut 
Quote ( Mariano Marchesan @ August 29th 2011,23:12:37 )

We all miss Ayrton, but lets judge with real performances, not only with other drivers achievements.

+1 very well said. Still, B. Senna is a good driver. Maybe better than the current Heidfeld, maybe not, one race isn't enough to judge, but he has shown that he is a good driver (after the initial crashes his pace was good).
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Kiriman lama #123 dikirim Ogo 29 2011, 23:20:30 Sebut 
Quote ( Zsifkó Ferenc @ August 29th 2011,19:27:23 )

But he had to stay away for 1 (or 2 ?) years. He needs some time as we can see it with Michael...


Half a year in 2010 is all he missed, and that was half filled with Pirelli testing.
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Kiriman lama #124 dikirim Ogo 29 2011, 23:30:27 Sebut 
Nick is too old. :/
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Kiriman lama #125 dikirim Ogo 30 2011, 15:35:00 (terakhir disunting Ogo 30 2011, 15:35:36 oleh Jim Williamson) Sebut 
Nick is not too old and was placed in a no-win situation. I think the team have done him dirty. They should have let him run the race with the upgraded car to see how he rated.

The car is a dog this year and they have done a poor job developing it up to this point. When Vitaly says it was a big improvement and they are still down where they were, that says a lot to me.

Senna is a name...a mythical name in F1. Bruno is lucky to have that name as it has carried him very far. He has talent, but is he better than Nick? I dont' think so.

I don't see Senna beating Vitaly if he stays in the car the remainder of the season. I am sure somehow that will be Nick's fault to according to Boullier.
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Kiriman lama #126 dikirim Ogo 30 2011, 18:42:12 Sebut 
Quote ( Wittmann Zsolt @ August 29th 2011,23:30:27 )

Nick is too old. :/


MSC: 42 years old

Webber: 35 years old(Once at the same team with Nick and had equal good results, but now sits in a Red Bull)

So what "he's too old"?:|

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Kiriman lama #127 dikirim Ogo 30 2011, 18:43:01 Sebut 
nick is more experience
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Kiriman lama #128 dikirim Ogo 30 2011, 18:56:04 (terakhir disunting Ogo 30 2011, 18:59:51 oleh William Ofosuhene) Sebut 
Senna should have replaced Kubica at the start of the season, so i dont know why Heidfeld is taking Renault to court
Quote ( David Jundt @ August 30th 2011,18:42:12 )

Webber: 35 years old(Once at the same team with Nick and had equal good results, but now sits in a Red Bull)So what "he's too old"?:|

Webber and Heidfeld aren't too old, they just can't keep up
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Kiriman lama #129 dikirim Ogo 30 2011, 19:05:54 Sebut 
SENNA! Heidfeld got uncompetetive and boring solets see if Senna can do better, ultimatly though I want to see Kubica back!
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Kiriman lama #130 dikirim Ogo 30 2011, 19:28:32 (terakhir disunting Ogo 30 2011, 19:32:41 oleh Pero Jurakic) Sebut 
Quote ( Ricardo Ercoli @ August 29th 2011,22:02:22 )

Senna is a disgraca for the family Senna, he can be a good driver, but is far to be a F1 driver...like Massa


Whoa, man! Massa sucks big time, he only won races from pole position and all of his teammates were 1st drivers to him. He is totally an average driver and for little Senna we'll just have to wait and see and not judge him by a few races in poor HRT or one race in Renault. If Massa was in a car like McLaren 1993 with Senna he would have gone as far as Michael Andretti at most... He may be a nice guy, but he is no champion driver.

p.s. Bruno has a LOT of pressure on his shoulders considering the name he is carrying and considering his lack of experience-what can he do in only one race to impress critics? Hard to say... let's give him more time to prove his talent.
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Kiriman lama #131 dikirim Ogo 30 2011, 19:33:32 Sebut 
i like bruno senna
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Kiriman lama #132 dikirim Ogo 30 2011, 19:38:00 Sebut 
Heidfeld, he has some good results and I think he may do better with more experience than Senna, though he also did well in spa apart from the early crash
Anyway, lets wait until Monza to see if Bruno can do it better
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Kiriman lama #133 dikirim Sep 1 2011, 00:45:11 Sebut 
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Kiriman lama #134 dikirim Sep 1 2011, 00:48:26 Sebut 
i'd rather pick Heidfeld,Senna needs more races to prove he has talent
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Kiriman lama #135 dikirim Sep 3 2011, 01:24:22 Sebut 
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Kiriman lama #136 dikirim Sep 3 2011, 01:30:18 Sebut 
If you have something to say, do it. If not, stop posting full-stops.
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Kiriman lama #137 dikirim Sep 3 2011, 03:13:43 Sebut 
Senna is better than Nick !
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Kiriman lama #138 dikirim Sep 3 2011, 03:15:32 Sebut 
at what? - Bridge or dog hunting?
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Kiriman lama #139 dikirim Sep 3 2011, 04:25:06 Sebut 
SENNA!!
BRAZIL!!
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Kiriman lama #140 dikirim Sep 3 2011, 04:35:10 Sebut 
Senna.

Classic name and brillant driver.

Top 10 on debut for Renault at Spa.
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Kiriman lama #141 dikirim Sep 3 2011, 04:48:00 Sebut 
$enna ha$ $omething that Heidfield doe$n't have...
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Kiriman lama #142 dikirim Sep 3 2011, 05:55:56 Sebut 
Rio Haryanto!
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Kiriman lama #143 dikirim Sep 3 2011, 07:17:10 Sebut 
Nick Heidfeld!
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Kiriman lama #144 dikirim Sep 3 2011, 08:33:43 Sebut 
Quote ( Daniel Benefield @ September 3rd 2011,04:35:10 )

Top 10 on debut for Renault at Spa.


Were you watching the same race as I was? I clearly remember him finishing 13th. And qualifying is just one thing, and that was a wet session too...
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Kiriman lama #145 dikirim Sep 3 2011, 15:26:18 Sebut 
Quote ( Pero Jurakic @ August 30th 2011,19:28:32 )

Whoa, man! Massa sucks big time


Massa sux just after his huge accident a couple of years ago, but before that he was amazing and if he sux he Ferrari wouldn't have renwed his contract continously
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Kiriman lama #146 dikirim Sep 3 2011, 15:36:15 Sebut 
Well theres definately no chance of Heidfeld coming back to Renault, the legal dispute has been sorted out and he's left under mutual concent.
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Kiriman lama #147 dikirim Sep 5 2011, 07:44:43 Sebut 
yes bruno isnt as a complete driver as heidfeld, but what he has is a ythful brain and learns quickly. Obviously the reason his in the car is because he brightens up the team spirit and in F1 that counts for alot,. End of the day 1 man doesnt win a race, the whole background team do.as Redbull clearly show.

Heidfeld jus wasnt motivated enough to cause the team to be excited about races and therefore contributed to the bad run he/renault lotus have had of late.

SIMPLY PUT!
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Kiriman lama #148 dikirim Sep 6 2011, 00:04:43 Sebut 
It seems that there are more brasilian votes than german...
And the vote reult is proving it so far...
I think that Heidfeld is a better driver.
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Kiriman lama #149 dikirim Sep 6 2011, 00:41:29 Sebut 
yes, but senna it's a novice with a great talent.
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Kiriman lama #150 dikirim Sep 6 2011, 01:13:58 Sebut 
Bruno Senna has revealed a talent which was not good and he began to run later if he had started at the right time surely now he would be the pilot or Ferrari or McLaren causing the Massa or Alonso were behind your talent because this is the talent in your DNA Senna driving for perfection
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