I have a question that has accompanied me since I started playing: risks in qualifying. We have 04 options: keep the car on the track, push the car a little, push the car a lot and push the car to the limit. However, what are the factors that infuenciam in deciding the risk to be used? Class ("keep the car on the track" the rookie, "push the car a little" in the amateur etc.)? Car level? Car character? Compatibility between characters of the car and the track at each race? Driver skills (concentration? Talent? Etc.)? Type of tire (more risk with extra-soft, hard with less risk)? Does anyone have more accurate data and could share? Thanks, and sorry for the mistakes of translation.
In short what you are asking is how will your qualifying time be influenced depending on which risk setting you choose to use? Sorry to be a pain, but I think this one comes under FOBY.
It depends on your driver skills how much risk he can handle. Basically the smaller the driver mistakes are in your practice laps the more risk you can take. One of the important skills for that you named yourself and is quite obvious anyway.
But one thing you need to remember is, that even a driver who is "supposed" to be able to handle higher risks, can do badly once in a while, because it's also luck dependant.
Quanto mais risco vc corre, maior a probabilidade de o piloto errar. Eu costumo usar push the car a little, mas às vezes tento um risco maior. Aí, às vezes dá certo, e às vezes dá muito errado!
Gentlemen, thank you for the answers. In fact I play since the 16 season, yet never said I do not know how to use the available risk in qualifying, I said that I still have doubts about factors that may influence in each of the risks, so we can better choose which to use . I believed for a long time, that the risks were only influenced by the concentration, talent, experience and stamina of the driver. Thus, the pilot can be determined with the use of a risk in all races, observed only the question of weather (sun / rain). But at times I've seen other players with drivers with skills lower than mine, making absurdly best time in qualifying, anything from 02 to 05 seconds apart. At first I was thinking they were using extra-soft and low fuel, however the race pit strategy was the same as mine, with average, where the soft does not hold out many laps due to temperature etc.. That is, these players made the qualification with the same tires that I, with similar amounts of fuel, had a car like mine, the pilot had worse than my time and did much better. I realized, too, the difference in results between using a "push the car to the limit" with strategic and extra-soft, medium or hard. When I speak of difference in the results I'm not talking about the end time of qualification, which of course is different to using extra-soft and hard, but in use compared to other players in the group whose strategy proved to be equal in the race. I always get setup with final pratice driver mistake less than 0.3 seconds (this is the race today: 0.167s 1:21.668 1:21.835 s s 380 520 620 560 480 435 Extra-soft). It's a driver mistake below, we agree, that would allow me to use "push the car to the limit" in classification of all races. But even using "push the car to the limit" I can not, always, the same performance the qualification that other players with general conditions similar to mine. In some races my result is better, in others worse. In some races, using a particular strategy, tires and risk, with 02 seconds of difference between Q1 and Q2. In other with the same strategy and tire tracks to be similar, and the same risk I difference Q1 and Q2 of more than 04 seconds. Then I started to imagine what must have many more factors influencing the choice most appropriate for risk in qualifying at every race. I do not think the ideal is always some risk in every race, only because of the skills of the pilot. I just suggested this topic that occurred to me some possible factors that might influence, in each race, the most appropriate choice for the risk at that time. There must be more factors beyond the skills of the pilot.
Quote ( Carlos Carvalho @ June 1st 2012,19:36:02 )
I always get setup with final pratice driver mistake less than 0.3 seconds (this is the race today: 0.167s 1:21.668 1:21.835 s s 380 520 620 560 480 435 Extra-soft). It's a driver mistake below, we agree, that would allow me to use "push the car to the limit" in classification of all races.
I disagree with this.
And it's logical that you find some variability in your times from race to race and between qualifying sessions, there's luck involved as well as other factors that make you faster or slower overall, but those other factors are unrelated to the qualifying risks, which are affected by driver skills + luck as has been already said.
As long as not all of your driver mistakes are below 0.1 sec I wouldn't recommend to use "push the car to the limit", but that's only my personal opinion. It also depends on luck. With a decent driver and pushing the car to the limit, you can get Q1 which is better by up to 1 second in the best case, but it could be also slightly slower than your practice lap in the worst case.
Of course it can vary also a lot in Q2. So with an almost perfect Q1 (compared to your practice times) but a pretty bad Q2, the difference between Q1 and Q2 will be a lot bigger (on the same strategy) as when you have a pretty bad Q1 and a very good Q2. This alone can explain up to 2 seconds difference from race to another (but unlikely to be that much).
What you also need to consider is that there may be different conditions in Q2 (i.e. different temperature). So the temp may suits your tyre better in Q2 which means less difference between Q1 and Q2 or the other way around. Then it also depends on how accurate your setup conversion is for the different conditions which also adds to that.
Does wear % increases if you tell the driver to push the car hard in quali as opposed to telling him to keep the car on the track?
You can see the wear of the car after each practice lap and each qualifying lap. So this is very easy to answer if you assume it is not added to the wear in the race.
You can see the wear of the car after each practice lap and each qualifying lap. So this is very easy to answer if you assume it is not added to the wear in the race.
i keep my car on track when my drivers mistakes fourth time is 3,0 - i use a little risk when my drivers mistakes fourth time is 2,0 - 2,9 i use a lot of risk when my drivers mistakes fourth time is 1,2 - 1,9 i use a maximum risk when my drivers mistakes fourth time is 0,0 - 1,1
Use your Practice laps look at the times, then in qualifying use push car a little, If its slower than your practice laps then stay on Keep car on track, A couple of races you should find what your driver likes
Neil Bontemps. Is a Legend Great Team mate Team GB
Quote ( Klaus Erik Kruus @ June 14th 2012,13:55:39 )
i keep my car on track when my drivers mistakes fourth time is 3,0 - i use a little risk when my drivers mistakes fourth time is 2,0 - 2,9 i use a lot of risk when my drivers mistakes fourth time is 1,2 - 1,9 i use a maximum risk when my drivers mistakes fourth time is 0,0 - 1,1
I must say I've never seen driver mistake of over 1.5 seconds ... that particular driver skill must be really low.
And by the way, Klaus ... I really wouldn't suggest pushing that hard when the driver makes a mistake that costs him that much time.
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