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Who will finish third at the Brasilian Grand Prix?
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Ok, but for absolute accurate comparison we need to deduct all the races that Mark Webber came second aswell (or any other Renault powered engine)
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Quote ( Andrei Ciuchi @ November 7th 2014,13:23:34 ) Quote ( Stuart Foster @ November 7th 2014,13:01:54 )
Maybe someone should add up the victory gaps that Vettel had last season and compare to the Merc wins this season for an accurate judgement?
Average winning margin for Vettel in 2013: 13.271s.
Average winning margin for Mercedes over leading non-Mercedes car: 23.538s
We Can see the difference 10 second advantage to mercedes and red bull never had that 1-2s .
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Quote ( Stuart Foster @ November 7th 2014,13:26:34 ) Ok, but for absolute accurate comparison we need to deduct all the races that Mark Webber came second aswell (or any other Renault powered engine)
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And you were going to tell me that when? :P
You do that. I did it with your initial request. :)
EDIT
And, if you do that, we should also make the same tweaks for races where Williams and McLaren came right behind the Mercs. :)
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Quote ( Luca Bertani @ November 7th 2014,13:21:26 ) Malaysian GP : 4.298s on Webber
Bahrain GP : 9.111s on Raikkonen
Canadian GP : 14.408s on Alonso
German GP : 1.008s on Raikkonen
Belgian GP : 16.869s on Alonso
Italian GP : 5.467s on Alonso
Singapore GP : 32.627s on Alonso
Korean GP : 4.224s on Raikkonen
Japanese GP : 7.129s on Webber
Indian GP : 29.823s on Rosberg
Abu Dhabi GP : 30.829s on Webber
USA GP : 6.284s on Grosjean
Brazilian GP : 10.452 on Webber
Bahrain (Raikkonen - Lotus Renault)
Malaysia (Webber - RedBull Renault)
Germany (Raikkonen - Lotus Renault)
Korea (Raikkonen - Lotus Renault)
Japan (Webber - RedBull Renault)
Abu Dhabi (Webber - RedBull Renault)
USA (Grosjean - Lotus Renault)
Brazil (Webber - RedBull Renault)
So in 8 out of 13 Vettel's wins there was a Renault powered engine car finishing in 2nd place. :)
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Quote ( Andrei Ciuchi @ November 7th 2014,13:23:34 ) Average winning margin for Mercedes over leading non-Mercedes car: 23.538s.
you already did? Or I assumed you did with this :)
Edit : Or I read it wrong :/
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This discuisson is infinite if we had mercede 2014 vs red bull 2013 thread it had became very popular
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By 'non-Mercedes' I meant Hamilton or Rosberg. :)
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LOL, ok, thanks for clearing that up :P
now we need to do that comparison for power units....I may geek out on that later :)
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1.hamilton
2.massa
3.rosberg
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Quote ( Stuart Foster @ November 7th 2014,13:39:53 ) LOL, ok, thanks for clearing that up :P
now we need to do that comparison for power units....I may geek out on that later :)
You have nothing better to do with your Friday? :)
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Erm, well...I'm watching FP1 at this moment :)
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Marussia F1 team based in Banbury, Oxfordshire has formally ceased trading, according to administrators FRP.
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And what about Manor Grand Prix? :)
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I hope Button does well in brazil. He has a nack for these types of tracks I think!
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The track has been resurfaced in the major redevelopment since last season, that means the laptimes are a lot quicker than they would've been last year possibly at the expense of some of the tracks character, could be interesting if it rains.
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1º. Massa
2º. Bottas
3º. Ricciardo (or Button, i like him).
Hamilton and Rosberg involved in a crash and left the race.
Why not dream? =)
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Quote ( Finn Shaw-McIver @ November 7th 2014,13:59:10 ) Marussia F1 team based in Banbury, Oxfordshire has formally ceased trading, according to administrators FRP.
They have made a provisional entry into F1 for next year, but will require someone to front the entry fee's and pay the teams debt.
So, looking pretty bad.
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Quote ( Sasha Lamounier @ November 7th 2014,17:11:08 ) Hamilton and Rosberg involved in a crash and left the race.
Why not dream? =)
It's a bit sad to address a Mercedes crash as a dream .. :)
Anyway think Massa will do a great race and has podium chances ; and in case of rain Button is going to be badass. :)
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i would love Massa to but I think Ricciardo will he is on form atm,
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Quote ( Luca Bertani @ November 7th 2014,17:15:49 ) It's a bit sad to address a Mercedes crash as a dream .. :)
Well, Riccardo only won this year because of that ... The Mercedes are unbeatable in normal conditions. ;)
Quote ( Luca Bertani @ November 7th 2014,17:15:49 ) Anyway think Massa will do a great race and has podium chances ; and in case of rain Button is going to be badass. :)
I fully agree!! =D
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Quote ( Sasha Lamounier @ November 7th 2014,17:11:08 ) 1º. Massa
2º. Bottas
3º. Ricciardo (or Button, i like him).
Hamilton and Rosberg involved in a crash and left the race.
Why not dream? =)
Please... :)
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Quote ( Sasha Lamounier @ November 7th 2014,17:18:07 ) The Mercedes are unbeatable in normal conditions. ;)
You're right man ; but they have a better car than Red Bull was last year , so in the end it's a legitimate dominance. :)
My aim for this race is to see Sauber or Lotus going on points ; they improved in Austin and hope one of this two teams reaches that spot. :)
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Gor for win Felipe or podium at least :D I think he can do it!
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Quote ( Luca Bertani @ November 7th 2014,17:22:09 ) You're right man ; but they have a better car than Red Bull was last year , so in the end it's a legitimate dominance. :)
Yes, it is 100% legitimate. Mercedes has done a phenomenal job this year and deserves everything that is taking. But as a fan, we must cheer to the competition ... lol
Quote ( Luca Bertani @ November 7th 2014,17:22:09 ) My aim for this race is to see Sauber or Lotus going on points ; they improved in Austin and hope one of this two teams reaching that spot. :)
Oh, it's sad for Sutil do not have completed the race (Austin). He could have gotten some points. Anyway, i agree, let's see what they will do in Brazil. It is a good bet, with the Lotus.
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Quote ( Sasha Lamounier @ November 7th 2014,17:28:36 ) But as a fan, we must cheer to the competition ... lol
I fully agree with you man , but in the end I also like to see a car dominating like that ; only thing I regret is the engine sound , damn .. listening to that BMW engine during Montoya's qualifying lap in 2004 continues to give me chills since this morning when I watched it for the first time!
Good memories .. :)
Quote ( Sasha Lamounier @ November 7th 2014,17:28:36 ) Oh, it's sad for Sutil do not have completed the race. He could have gotten some points.
I think Perez will dislike this one. :oP
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Quote ( Sasha Lamounier @ November 7th 2014,17:28:36 ) Oh, it's sad for Sutil do not have completed the race (Austin).
He's never even finished a race LAP! But yes, I'd like to see Sauber score a point or two. Especially Sutil, as its looking like he might not get too many more opportunities to do so. He had so much bad luck at Force India.
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Maldonado quicker than grojean in p2 so far, the end is near.......
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I think if vettel has pace in qualifying then podium is possible.and if it rains then podium will definitely go to red bull cuz like in suzuka Williams and Ferrari wasn't soo great and McLaren isn't much of a threat to red bull!!
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Quote ( Sahil Chandnani @ November 7th 2014,17:46:53 ) and if it rains then podium will definitely go to red bull cuz like in suzuka Williams and Ferrari wasn't soo great and McLaren isn't much of a threat to red bull!!
More chances for Ricciardo to hit the podium tbh.
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Nico pole and a Lewis win by the looks of it
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