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#1 dikirim Dis 7 2014, 23:10:36
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My suggestion is you should have to pay for all car wear after race 17.
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Say you have a level 6 chassis which costs $3mill, and your chassis has worn 25% by the end of the season. You should then have to pay $750k in chassis wear. The same applies for all your car parts.
The reasons for suggesting this is to help stop so many car smokers near the end of the season. It may also improve season planning and make it a little more interesting. For those managers that decide to miss race 17 (to save on car wear), maybe we could increase the income for doing all races from $5mill to $10mill?
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#2 dikirim Dis 7 2014, 23:14:04
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So you're basically suggesting an end of season fine for EVERY manager?
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#3 dikirim Dis 7 2014, 23:14:34
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You did realize that this would be bad for everyone as everyone has wear after the last race? That would be one expensive addition to the game...
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I like the fact that people smoke the last few races...so I would say no.
Plus some us of plan that we make the most use of our car parts so we shouldn't get penalized for that.
Mind you, it's not a horrible idea but it also goes against those that can manage their parts well!
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#5 dikirim Dis 7 2014, 23:18:33
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Quote ( Andrew Massey @ December 7th 2014,23:10:36 ) It may also improve season planning and make it a little more interesting.
One of your reasons is to improve season planning, but ultimately this is punishing those who plan well by still racing the last race and having planned well enough to have high wear on most parts to get out the most of it.
So for this reason alone I don't personally agree with it.
And to be honest, I don't see why you have a problem with it if lots of others are smoking in the last race, because it actually just means it's easier for you to get a decent result by actually racing.
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#6 dikirim Dis 7 2014, 23:18:48
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Quote ( Andrew Massey @ December 7th 2014,23:10:36 ) It may also improve season planning and make it a little more interesting.
It would make it a lot less interesting. Then it wouldn't matter at all how much wear you had left in the car. If you had little, you would have just spent a lot for updating and if you had a lot, you would pay a lot but on the other hand you wouldn't have other expenses lately. Now it's a challenge to get all the parts to go close to 99% at the same time.
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#7 dikirim Dis 7 2014, 23:22:02
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People smoke the end of the season to save money. So surely you should be offering a different method of saving money rather than both removing the opportunity to save money AND THEN fining managers...
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#8 dikirim Dis 7 2014, 23:30:06 (terakhir disunting Dis 7 2014, 23:30:19 oleh Gabi Damian)
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Worst idea ever!
For example, a level 6 car update cost over about $44m. If you finish the race with 25% average wear, will have to pay $11m (that's more than the race income, sometimes, even in Master).
But most people that don't smoke in the final races, plan to maximize the wear. 25% average wear after race 17 is highly optimistic.
With such a fine, will see lots of relegation due to negative balance. :)
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#9 dikirim Dis 7 2014, 23:33:11
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This could make things really different, and I really like it as it is right now. It could make things worse not better. Like in real life, you start with new parts every season, you wouldn't start with last year's engine and such. And those who know how to save money, then this could make a big impact to them... so no.
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I would be horrifically bankrupt if this idea came into play, so thumbs down.
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Still alive Massey? Was quite sure that schizo already nailed you to the wall. But here you are. Here. You. Are. Im totally on your side thoo, just try to keep this suggestions to yourself, otherwise there will be no black livery from me. :)
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So financially penalise anybody whose car parts are > 0% at the end of the season, or force people to either weaken their car by downgrading or force them to spend money replacing parts.
Yeah, I can see that one working.
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Quote ( Andrew Massey @ December 7th 2014,23:10:36 ) maybe we could increase the income for doing all races from $5mill to $10mill?
Remember the income is given to anyone that has literally qualified to every races.
It's not because you won't finish a race that you won't have these 5M.
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Another idea maybe the wear and parts we should have should continue till next season so if I have to buy a engine last race my money is not wasted
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Quote ( Kshitij Sharma @ December 8th 2014,10:53:03 ) Another idea maybe the wear and parts we should have should continue till next season so if I have to buy a engine last race my money is not wasted
That´s against planning, if you plan you get most of the parts used nearly a max at the end of the season, if you don´t plan you just buy parts whenever you need them. This idea benefits the "lazy" managers, so it´s a no.
And about the main idea of the topic, many other have already pointed out the cons, if you have a whole new car for last race, you pay the new car for just one race wear, plus the wear of that race. It´s a punishment to ALL managers, wich also doesn´t fix any problem but creates a few ones.
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nominate this for worst suggestions by this season.
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Quote ( Kshitij Sharma @ December 8th 2014,10:53:03 ) Another idea maybe the wear and parts we should have should continue till next season so if I have to buy a engine last race my money is not wasted
If you promote you keep your parts level and 0% wear for new season so why would you want the wear carried over?
If you stay in rookie all money and parts get reset anyway.
Just because you have not grasp of the game yet ,you want to change it again.
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weird as this may seem I actually like this idea... Not that I like to have higher costs but it would definitely be interesting to control budgets with this kind of feature aswell... Probably people would downgrade parts in last race (or buy new parts) and cause start crashes on purpose to not wear the car, at least thats what I would do...
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Quote ( Ivan Silva @ December 8th 2014,13:37:15 ) weird as this may seem I actually like this idea... Not that I like to have higher costs but it would definitely be interesting to control budgets with this kind of feature aswell... Probably people would downgrade parts in last race (or buy new parts) and cause start crashes on purpose to not wear the car, at least thats what I would do...
So somebody just promoted to amateur gets points the first race, secures their position then start crashes the next 16 races...
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If they choose to do so, but that is ilogical... I mean 1 start crash on purpose, i dont think I've ever seen 16 consecutive start crashed ever in gpro :D
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Quote ( Ivan Silva @ December 8th 2014,13:42:58 ) If they choose to do so, but that is ilogical... I mean 1 start crash on purpose, i dont think I've ever seen 16 consecutive start crashed ever in gpro :D
Theoretically possible tho; which would mean wear preserved from the first race so should dependent on a number of factors last another 2 or so races.
There's just no point to maintaining wear across seasons. Thinking logically, what team irl would do that? It's sensible enough that the wear gets reset as new parts of the same level would be fitted for the new season.
Penalising everybody for no benefit whatsoever is punitive.
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I don't see the point in this.
Realistically, you build a new car each season (hopefully) to be more competitive on the grid. So wear should be zero.
In GPRO terms, why penalise those who plan better?
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Quote ( Fran Betancort @ December 8th 2014,10:59:01 ) That´s against planning, if you plan you get most of the parts used nearly a max at the end of the season, if you don´t plan you just buy parts whenever you need them. This idea benefits the "lazy" managers, so it´s a no.
Agreed.
After race 17 this season about half of my parts should be over 90% wear, and the others will all be around 70%. Why should someone who plans to maximize use of car parts (i.e., not waste money by buying new parts in the last race) be penalized for their good planning? Conversely, why should someone who spends a ton of money on parts in the last race be "rewarded" for doing so? This makes no sense at all.
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Did this come out just before the Oscars as a bet?
Sorry Andrew your idea would simply punish those who plan best and reward those who don't. Likewise it takes no account of randoms and could actually result in someone demoting because of it. Oh and this would simply reward the rich and punish the poor(er).
No thanks mate.
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It is obvious that all these people saying real life teams start each season with an all new car have never worked on or been around a real race team... also the off season re-builds that do happen CERTAINLY impact the budget in real life as well.
Feel free to debate the end of season parts reset from a game standpoint, but know that there is DEFINATELY no magic new season car in real life. Yes my car will be shiny and look nicer in the spring, and this year its getting a new engine, but the electronics are all the same, the cooling system is the same, and only the regular wear items in our suspension are being replaced. My wife will be happy to tell you that the engine DEFINATELY was not free.
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Still, I doubt that the new engine will only last 3 races. :)
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You are right, we will probably refresh the valvetrain after the first one... but our races are 24-36hours so its not exactly apples to apples.
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