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Kiriman lama #1 dikirim Jan 31 2015, 19:34:31 Sebut 
I think, that McLaren will very good and dangerous team. But I don´t know whether they will won races. And your opinions?
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Kiriman lama #2 dikirim Jan 31 2015, 19:35:14 (terakhir disunting Jan 31 2015, 19:38:45 oleh Jon Day) Sebut 
Yes. I hope so.

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Kiriman lama #3 dikirim Jan 31 2015, 19:41:15 Sebut 
Peter Prodromou has copied the red bull in so many ways, nice & tightly packaged at the back! hopefully it doesn't have the cooling issues and they can start on the front foot but think they will be some way off the mercs, bulls & williams. but i also hope im wrong!
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Kiriman lama #4 dikirim Jan 31 2015, 20:16:57 Sebut 
Quote ( Dan Smurthwaite @ January 31st 2015,19:41:15 )

Peter Prodromou has copied the red bull in so many ways

Copied? He designed both! You don't copy yourself.
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Kiriman lama #5 dikirim Jan 31 2015, 21:21:51 Sebut 
Who will better, Alonso or Button?
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Kiriman lama #6 dikirim Jan 31 2015, 21:26:35 Sebut 
Quote ( Stanislav Kvirenc @ January 31st 2015,21:21:51 )

Who will better, Alonso or Button?
Alonso of course :-)
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Kiriman lama #7 dikirim Jan 31 2015, 21:33:08 Sebut 
Alonso collected 1767points in your career and Button 1059 points. Alonso won twice formula 1 and Button once. But racer from England has a lot of experiences. It will gripping.
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Kiriman lama #8 dikirim Jan 31 2015, 21:50:06 Sebut 
Quote ( Pedro Santos @ January 31st 2015,20:16:57 )

Copied? He designed both! You don't copy yourself.


The team he worked in designed it under Newey, now he has more responsibility and hes gone with all he knows - Red Bull! Didnt say what hes done was wrong but it is still a copy.
He showed his creative imagination last year with an identical front wing!
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Kiriman lama #9 dikirim Jan 31 2015, 23:52:43 Sebut 
Quote ( Dan Smurthwaite @ January 31st 2015,21:50:06 )

He showed his creative imagination last year with an identical front wing!

He is one of the best aerodynamicists in F1 right now. Even though he worked for Newey, that doesn't take his ability away. Of course he used the same front wing, if he believes it's the best solution then he's going to follow that development path. It's not a case of lack of imagination, but rather a case of knowing what the best solution is and developing it. That's how I see it at least. :)
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Kiriman lama #10 dikirim Feb 1 2015, 01:43:55 Sebut 
We'll the merc didn't catch & pass red bull by copying their design! They found there own ways. If you follow others you will always be chasing.
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Kiriman lama #11 dikirim Feb 1 2015, 06:49:51 Sebut 
Quote ( Dan Smurthwaite @ February 1st 2015,01:43:55 )

If you follow others you will always be chasing.


One must be behind to follow.
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Kiriman lama #12 dikirim Feb 1 2015, 12:23:56 Sebut 
Dan, my point is that he's not following others, he's just continuing his own work in another team. The Red Bull was at least on par with, if not better than, the Mercedes aerodynamically last season, the major deficit was the PU. So I think he's doing well in continuing what he started.
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Kiriman lama #13 dikirim Feb 2 2015, 18:45:44 Sebut 
An engine Honda has not a good performance. But starts are hard.
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Kiriman lama #14 dikirim Feb 2 2015, 18:55:32 Sebut 
Both drivers od McLaren went 6 laps.
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Kiriman lama #15 dikirim Feb 2 2015, 18:57:33 Sebut 
Quote ( Stanislav Kvirenc @ January 31st 2015,21:33:08 )

Alonso collected 1767points in your career and Button 1059 points. Alonso won twice formula 1 and Button once. But racer from England has a lot of experiences. It will gripping.


Button is a total idiot. Alonso is probably the best F1 driver after Schummy
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Kiriman lama #16 dikirim Feb 2 2015, 18:57:33 Sebut 
I'm sure that McLaren will be champion again, but Honda needs time for back make history.
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Kiriman lama #17 dikirim Feb 2 2015, 19:14:55 Sebut 
Quote ( Lord Sentaris @ February 2nd 2015,18:57:33 )

Button is a total idiot. Alonso is probably the best F1 driver after Schummy


Button is probably one of the best people in F1 at the moment but Alonso Is a better driver.
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Kiriman lama #18 dikirim Feb 2 2015, 19:16:17 Sebut 
Quote ( Alex Nikodem-Wing @ February 2nd 2015,19:14:55 )

Button is probably one of the best people in F1 at the moment but Alonso Is a better driver.


In F1 counts how you drive .. and by far Alonso has driven far way better than Jen. :oP


Not to criticize Jen as a driver , I always liked his attitude and his way of behaving ; but these are facts. :]
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Kiriman lama #19 dikirim Feb 2 2015, 19:22:41 Sebut 
Quote ( Luca Bertani @ February 2nd 2015,19:16:17 )

In F1 counts how you drive .. and by far Alonso has driven far way better than Jen. :oP


Not to criticize Jen as a driver , I always liked his attitude and his way of behaving ; but these are facts. :]


Compare them at the end of the season once they have a season of driving under the same team, and then you can see who is the better driver :P. Otherwise it is just pointless since they have been at different teams, driving different cars. Last season they both excelled their teammates, so they both have a reason to claim that they are better. At the end of the season, make comparisons. Not before that, when they have never raced together in the same team.
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Kiriman lama #20 dikirim Feb 2 2015, 19:33:49 Sebut 


I don't want to be a party pooper, but this sounds amazing!
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Kiriman lama #21 dikirim Feb 2 2015, 19:36:31 (terakhir disunting Feb 2 2015, 19:43:00 oleh Luca Bertani) Sebut 
Quote ( Joe Manifold @ February 2nd 2015,19:22:41 )

Compare them at the end of the season once they have a season of driving under the same team, and then you can see who is the better driver :P. Otherwise it is just pointless since they have been at different teams, driving different cars. Last season they both excelled their teammates, so they both have a reason to claim that they are better. At the end of the season, make comparisons. Not before that, when they have never raced together in the same team


That's true Joe , but as I've seen for now , Alonso has always driven better than Jenson.


That's only my personal opinion sure (as drivers) , as a person instead Fernando has a lot to learn from a gentleman like Jenson ; but anyway let's see this season with both men under the same team.

I bet this season will be more fun to watch than the previous one ; can't wait for it to start!
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Kiriman lama #22 dikirim Feb 2 2015, 19:45:26 Sebut 
Also one season can't really let you judge. Some drivers can manage a worse car better than others like I think Kimi could have challenged Alonso more if he was happy with the car. Some drivers prefer front grip rather than back grip etc.
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Kiriman lama #23 dikirim Feb 2 2015, 23:56:14 Sebut 
Disapointing colors, hope it runs well.
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Kiriman lama #24 dikirim Feb 3 2015, 00:01:40 Sebut 
Rom Dennis already said that the colors will be changed
This season it will be a zero season for Honda. So...zero victorys this year
But they have a gret couple of experienced pilots to develop the car for the 2016 season
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Kiriman lama #25 dikirim Feb 3 2015, 00:01:51 (terakhir disunting Feb 3 2015, 00:02:21 oleh Jed Lilly) Sebut 
Quote ( Håkan Ferm @ February 2nd 2015,23:56:14 )

Disapointing colors, hope it runs well.


The colours remind me of my favourite McLaren, the MP4-20 so I love it (ignoring the horrible red mirrors). It seems McLaren are in big trouble, having teething issues at the Abu Dhabi test was forgivable but it seems they're finding new problems every day now. The car has never run at full pace and sounds sick on instillation laps.

Quote ( Cesar Almeida @ February 3rd 2015,00:01:40 )

Rom Dennis already said that the colors will be changed


Only if they find a new title sponsor.
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Kiriman lama #26 dikirim Feb 3 2015, 00:03:10 Sebut 
It sounds like a growling lion, awesome
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Kiriman lama #27 dikirim Feb 3 2015, 00:37:47 Sebut 
the sound seems to be higher this season
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Kiriman lama #28 dikirim Feb 3 2015, 01:53:50 Sebut 
McLaren has always been my favorite team, I really hope they can live up to their expectations but I'm pretty sceptic. We'll see, that's all I can say based on these testing sessions
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Kiriman lama #29 dikirim Feb 3 2015, 21:28:58 Sebut 
Alonso went 32 laps. It is an improvement.
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Kiriman lama #30 dikirim Feb 3 2015, 23:03:08 Sebut 
Another thing on the JB Alonso debate

Just think JB is the only man to beat Hamilton when in the same car, the list of drivers beaten by Hamilton when in the same car includes Alonso.

Dont write JB off yet!
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