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Quote ( Jasper Coosemans @ March 31st 2020,18:47:45 ) You seem to be arguing that Ivelin is a bastard mod so he could be lying. To that I say that you should consider that, under normal circumstances, you wouldn't even know it was me who was on the phone, right? I don't know how this 'phone call' looked from your end, but as far as I know, Ivelin didn't tell you it was me. The only reason why you know it was me is because of your Loudmouth ability. As far as you know? How exactly did you get the knowledge that Ivelin didn't tell Lyee it was you, while also claiming that you don't know how the 'phone call' looked from Lyee's end?
Quote ( Jasper Coosemans @ March 31st 2020,18:47:45 ) Now imagine that I visited any other player. They would find this phone number, call it, and have no idea who's on the other side. On top of that, you are suggesting that the mod could be feeding false information as well. Really, what a shitty role would that be. You said you only chosed from one of the 4 options & Ivelin did the rest. How do you know what Ivelin says/doesn't say to the other side?
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Quote ( Lech Witarczyk @ March 31st 2020,19:59:54 ) Well, no. You could be able to say whatever you want and Ivelin only shares it. It could be a very wifomy scum role. I asked this to Jasper before. He said he only chosed an option that's all. Not like he wrote something & Ivelin forwarded it to Lyee. At least that's how I understand it.
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I hope to post more often than the last 5-6 days. Sorry for the absence last week.
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Quote ( Ahmet Sonverdi @ March 31st 2020,21:02:04 ) I asked this to Jasper before. He said he only chosed an option that's all. Not like he wrote something & Ivelin forwarded it to Lyee. At least that's how I understand it.
Yes, I understand this is what Jasper is claiming. But he started arguing in a direction that his claim must be true and I wanted to point out how Jasper's role could be different if he was scum
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Quote ( Ahmet Sonverdi @ March 31st 2020,21:01:33 ) As far as you know? How exactly did you get the knowledge that Ivelin didn't tell Lyee it was you, while also claiming that you don't know how the 'phone call' looked from Lyee's end? Because saying who I was was one of the options Ivelin gave me.
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If you're town, why didn't you want Ivelin to tell Lyee who you are?
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Quote ( Riley Dunlop @ March 31st 2020,09:24:40 ) And the main thing of course is that they are a Vig! If they don't believe me and think I am fake-claiming scum, they can just kill me at night! (or day if they are a day-vig)
Oh, duh. Yeah that's pretty obvious, not sure why I missed that.
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Quote ( Ahmet Sonverdi @ March 31st 2020,21:54:49 ) If you're town, why didn't you want Ivelin to tell Lyee who you are? Because everyone already knew that it was me who visited Lyee.
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Quote ( Lech Witarczyk @ March 31st 2020,21:10:15 ) Yes, I understand this is what Jasper is claiming. But he started arguing in a direction that his claim must be true and I wanted to point out how Jasper's role could be different if he was scum You do have a point. I don't consider myself entirely confirmed town, but I would say at least highly likely town.
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Wait, one of the options is "I am Jasper"?
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Quote ( Jasper Coosemans @ March 31st 2020,21:59:17 ) Because everyone already knew that it was me who visited Lyee. That doesn't really sit right with me at the moment.
You say it was up to you to let Ivelin whether reveal who you are or not. "Because everyone already knew that it was me who visited Lyee." sounds like a reason actually for letting Ivelin reveal who you are cos why not as everybody knows it already. But you choosed not to reveal it.
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Ok, I understood Lyee's post that he got a message "Jasper is town" so by "real name" I understood character name.
Lyee, please confirm that you got something like "I am town" with no mention of Jasper's name in the message.
Jasper, I hope that you will reveal your role name in the future to someone, I really want someone to be able to confirm it if during the game you will have to claim it.
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When you said one of the options was telling who you are, I thought about your character name & thought Ivelin may have told Lyee that "Jasper is town" when you chosed to reveal your alingment.
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Quote ( Lech Witarczyk @ March 31st 2020,22:06:18 ) Lyee, please confirm that you got something like "I am town" with no mention of Jasper's name in the message. +1
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Quote ( Lech Witarczyk @ March 31st 2020,22:06:18 ) Jasper, I hope that you will reveal your role name in the future to someone, I really want someone to be able to confirm it if during the game you will have to claim it. I had no such option last night, unless the character name is considered a part of the "role" option, which I assume it isn't. Maybe Lyee got my character name when I picked up the phone, because, let's say my character name is John Doe, it would make sense to say "Hi this is John Doe speaking" when answering. But I do not know that, only Lyee knows (and Ivelin).
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Quote ( Lyee Chong @ March 28th 2020,14:42:01 ) Question to those who follow HIMYM. Is there a receptionist character in this series? If yes, (s)he is a hero or villain?
Question to you, is Google in lockdown where you are? A quick search found the answer for me so why not find out yourself?
Just checking Lyee, are you considering yourself as cleared town after Japser's N1 visit because it feels like you're playing that way a bit. Post random, poorly constructed posts that are causing as much distraction as Andre has been accused of.
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No, no. I mean your role, not your character name.
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Quote ( Mike Baston @ March 31st 2020,22:22:24 ) Just checking Lyee, are you considering yourself as cleared town after Japser's N1 visit because it feels like you're playing that way a bit. Post random, poorly constructed posts that are causing as much distraction as Andre has been accused of. Lyee is confirmed town imo. This has been discussed about a week ago. First of all a 'scum Loudmouth' would be damn weird and second, a scum Loudmouth wouldn't softclaim at the first opportunity because keeping himself hidden would give him the chance to catch more PRs in following nights.
Having said that, I do think you are right about the description of Lyee's play. I haven't even bothered to read the Lyee-Riley interactions because it's simply a waste of time.
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Just a quick one as i have to leave pretty soon and can't really comment on much or go look for quotes.
Shouldn't you guys be questioning Jasper on why did he initially said he picked between only 2 options (role or name) and afterwards he claimed it was 4 options?
Just a hint...
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I remember as he said he had 4 options from the beginning, did I miss something?
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Quote ( Jasper Coosemans @ March 21st 2020,12:51:08 ) but I got to choose one of four options to reveal something, such as my alignment or my role.
You are right, my memory failed me... :(
I guess the 'alignment or role' got me messed up.
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I always said it was 4 options, I just never bothered to list all of them, and nobody asked. It only became relevant when I had to answer Jimmy's question.
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Quote ( Andre de Carvalho @ March 31st 2020,22:40:58 ) Shouldn't you guys be questioning Jasper on why did he initially said he picked between only 2 options (role or name) and afterwards he claimed it was 4 options?
Jasper claimed 4 options from the start. You are referring to a post where Jasper claimed he has 4 options but named only 2. I can find it tomorrow, today I'm busy happy drinking :)
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Quote ( Sebastian Jóźwiak @ March 30th 2020,08:49:28 ) So long story short, I'm a Miller with a dumb brain
Is the dumb brain part of the role or just you, I don't understand.
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Quote ( Andre de Carvalho @ March 30th 2020,10:31:21 ) Don't worry, Seb, it's pretty much closed. Though i'll admitt i haven't made my mind yet after your claim, i will need other people's opinion on that.
Why do you need people's opinions on this particular matter? Is it something you don't understand or just something you can't form an opinion on?
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Quote ( Riley Dunlop @ March 30th 2020,10:49:11 ) I had considered this initially but under Natural Action Resolution all kills happen simultaneously at the end of the night (although Bastard Ivelin could amend this of course)
But you raising it has made me reconsider the point and it occurred to me that my role is not actually a killing role, it is a actually protecting role and protecting roles occur before killing roles
So yes it is entirely possible that me protecting/killing Kirsty stopped her killing
Let me get this clear then, you are believing that you killed Kirsty in the protection phase of the NAR process yes?
How would the NAR know you needed to protect Kirsty until it reached the kill order phase which happens later? To me it could only be decided by Mod that you would be killing her when was known that no other kill orders directed at Kirsty.
I may be wrong as have never modded a game so anyone with such experience please feel free to comment if I'm understanding incorrectly.
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