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Daryl Gee
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Kiriman lama #121 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 23:34:31 Sebut 
Every single change Vlad has ever made has caused everyone to leave the game.

This one will be the same.
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Kiriman lama #122 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 23:37:50 (terakhir disunting Okt 11 2020, 23:41:24 oleh George Togas) Sebut 
Quote ( Daryl Gee @ October 11th 2020,23:34:31 )

Every single change Vlad has ever made has caused everyone to leave the game.

This one will be the same.
Can't wait for this to happen.
I will be the only one around and I will have 100 crowns next to my name.


I just looked at your profile.
You haven't left the game. You are here since S5 with small brakes.
Looks it will be me against you.
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Kiriman lama #123 dikirim Okt 11 2020, 23:49:27 (terakhir disunting Okt 11 2020, 23:51:59 oleh Daryl Gee) Sebut 
Quote ( George Togas @ October 11th 2020,23:37:50 )

I just looked at your profile.
You haven't left the game. You are here since S5 with small brakes.
Looks it will be me against you

Well, some big breaks. But I'm going to need you to also leave, George.
Thanks.
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Kiriman lama #124 dikirim Okt 12 2020, 00:56:12 Sebut 
Just wondering about a little detail with staff offer prices: is it the price fee (500K to 1,5M) that will become dynamic, or the min.salary and signing fee that will become dynamic ?
I guess it's what I said first, but I'm not sure. Thanks for any explanation.

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Kiriman lama #125 dikirim Okt 12 2020, 01:50:39 (terakhir disunting Okt 12 2020, 01:56:57 oleh Juan Pereyra) Sebut 
Quote ( Henrique Hughes Paunero @ October 11th 2020,18:16:20 )

<font style="vertical-align: inherit;"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">[cita] [q = 29686 | 4626536] Cita [/ q] (Ethan Littlejohns @ 11 de octubre de 2020,18: 02: 48)

Cotización (Rimantas Sagatas @ 11 de octubre de 2020,17 : 29: 42) </font></font>

<font style="vertical-align: inherit;"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">Si se decidió que las ofertas tardías del personal deben ser más caras para compensar a las personas que no pueden estar en línea cerca de la fecha límite del mercado, entonces también deberíamos considerar tener precios dinámicos para las vueltas de clasificación. </font><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">Más cerca de la fecha límite de clasificación debería ser más costoso en comparación con las vueltas anticipadas, cuando no tienes conocimiento sobre el ritmo de los rivales. </font><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">Tal vez sea menos relevante en los grupos inferiores, pero es crucial en Elite, especialmente para las personas en una pelea por el título. </font><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">Si quieres ser el último en tener la mayor cantidad de información posible, paga más;)</font></font>


<font style="vertical-align: inherit;"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">¿Qué pasa si soy vago y me gusta calificar más tarde? :( </font></font>
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<font style="vertical-align: inherit;"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">Ah onow they sanction you for lazy</font></font>



Lol Henrique.

Quote ( Daryl Gee @ October 11th 2020,23:34:31 )

Every single change Vlad has ever made has caused everyone to leave the game. This one will be the same.


For me Driver´s energy, was the worst change. Lots of manager friends left the game and it makes racing more boring.
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Kiriman lama #126 dikirim Okt 12 2020, 04:30:46 (terakhir disunting Okt 12 2020, 04:44:22 oleh Roland Postle) Sebut 
Quote ( Harsh Sheth @ October 11th 2020,22:25:00 )

I don't think anybody is asking for people to be penalized for qualifying on Monday, the issue being referred to is people qualifying after 18:20 on Tuesday. Simply penalizing qualification in the last few hours would do the trick.

If the concern is mostly a few championship pushers or promoters qualifying super late at the front of the grid I'm not sure this helps, since in a 2-way battle the optimal time to qualify could just be immediately after your rival when your cost is nearly the same(*) as theirs but the information advantage is large. Instead of merely leaving it late they'd need to sit there refreshing all day making it not only a timezone advantage but an advantage based on how much free time and concentration you have to wait out the other guy.

If the aim is to combat timezone advantage more generally then the soft deadline would have to stretch out longer, perhaps even over 24 hours, since a lot of people in European timezones have to qualify the night before, others do it in the morning before work/etc getting a nice advantage over the night before guys. and qualifying after the morning guys but still a full 7-8 hours before the deadline can often give a really good picture of the grid.

Maybe these reasons make the staff bid change not ideal either.. but at least it's fairly quick to do a bid, so in general people are able to leave it later, and a shorter soft deadline may work okay. And the rivals tend to be less clear usually.


(*) Maybe if the cost was based on how many people have qualified already? Eg. The last 10 to do so get an extra escalating charge, unless they're qualifying more than 20 hours before the deadline.
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Kiriman lama #127 dikirim Okt 12 2020, 06:43:02 Sebut 
The latter measures have in all cases (this too) withdrawn money from the game. How long can this be further enhanced? (I have already said that it is not possible to make big profits even in a strong amás group).
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Kiriman lama #128 dikirim Okt 12 2020, 06:52:06 Sebut 
Quote ( Roland Postle @ October 12th 2020,04:30:46 )

If the aim is to combat timezone advantage more generally then the soft deadline would have to stretch out longer, perhaps even over 24 hours, since a lot of people in European timezones have to qualify the night before, others do it in the morning before work/etc getting a nice advantage over the night before guys. and qualifying after the morning guys but still a full 7-8 hours before the deadline can often give a really good picture of the grid.



Why not just hide everything beginning 24 hours before the deadline?

Offers, quali, etc.

maybe online in master and above..... to help out the newer guys in lower divisions but still maintain some balance in the higher leagues where its needed.
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Kiriman lama #129 dikirim Okt 12 2020, 12:40:40 (terakhir disunting Okt 12 2020, 12:40:53 oleh Diogo Abdalla) Sebut 
Quote ( Rimantas Sagatas @ October 11th 2020,17:29:42 )

If it was decided that late staff offers should be more pricey to make it up for people who can't be online close to the market deadline, then we should also consider having dynamic prices for qualifying laps. Closer to qualifying deadline should be more costly compared to laps run early, when you have no knowledge about rivals pace. Maybe it is less relevant in lower groups, but it is crucial in Elite, especially for people in a title fight. If you want to be last guy with the most info possible, then pay more ;)


Or: make the race happen always 7 PM, but in the TZ the track is in

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Kiriman lama #130 dikirim Okt 12 2020, 13:08:28 Sebut 
Reading the last posts, it seems like the change in the Qualys has been approved. Don't push Vlad in that regard. They have already made 2 changes to the S79 and it is already too much .. (good?)
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Kiriman lama #131 dikirim Okt 12 2020, 13:24:07 (terakhir disunting Okt 12 2020, 13:24:53 oleh Tibor Szuromi) Sebut 
There was no change of qualification notification. Did I miss it?
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Kiriman lama #132 dikirim Okt 12 2020, 13:32:39 Sebut 
Of course, there was no change in qualification, but here people seem to not have enough with two changes and are already asking for more.
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Kiriman lama #133 dikirim Okt 12 2020, 13:54:50 Sebut 
They are insatiable.
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Kiriman lama #134 dikirim Okt 12 2020, 16:19:26 Sebut 
Just stop economy table updates between races. Managers account totals get updated when qualifying closes and post race. This would encourage people to concentrate on their own packages more.

Just my opinion. Im sure people will be up in arms about implementing this.


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Kiriman lama #135 dikirim Okt 12 2020, 17:39:21 Sebut 
this is not a job... sponsor to mucch long time for negotiation, should be better less time for it
Pilot i don't understand
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Kiriman lama #136 dikirim Okt 12 2020, 18:02:34 Sebut 
What happens when you can not accept because you have already a sponsor on that spot of the car ?
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Kiriman lama #137 dikirim Okt 12 2020, 18:05:28 Sebut 
Quote ( Andy Arends @ October 12th 2020,18:02:34 )

What happens when you can not accept because you have already a sponsor on that spot of the car ?

Shit.
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Kiriman lama #138 dikirim Okt 12 2020, 18:22:23 Sebut 
LMAO!
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Kiriman lama #139 dikirim Okt 13 2020, 06:09:22 Sebut 
I do not like the way it is done, I do not see bad that they make changes, but in the middle of the season to announce this and not at all clear? I feel that it is a lack of respect towards those who play.
@Vladimir Alexandrov (R3) could you explain more clearly?
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Kiriman lama #140 dikirim Okt 13 2020, 14:11:14 (terakhir disunting Okt 13 2020, 14:25:04 oleh Mick Ridley) Sebut 
Quote ( Andy Arends @ October 12th 2020,18:02:34 )

What happens when you can not accept because you have already a sponsor on that spot of the car ?

I guess We are in trouble
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Kiriman lama #141 dikirim Okt 13 2020, 14:31:15 (terakhir disunting Okt 13 2020, 14:40:20 oleh Olivier Portal) Sebut 
Quote ( Harsh Sheth @ October 11th 2020,22:25:00 )

I don't think anybody is asking for people to be penalized for qualifying on Monday, the issue being referred to is people qualifying after 18:20 on Tuesday. Simply penalizing qualification in the last few hours would do the trick. And from what I understand of Vlad's announcement, same is the case for the staff markets.


If the aim is to combat timezone advantage, the solution is to show the qualifying times only after the close. So everyone is equal
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Kiriman lama #142 dikirim Okt 13 2020, 14:44:18 Sebut 

Quote ( Olivier Portal @ October 13th 2020,14:31:15 )


If the aim is to combat timezone advantage, the solution is to show the qualifying times only after the close. So everyone is equal


Holy please no! I can't gauge how bad my Q is without times from others...
If you really need to, at least display times anonymously or something. Or just the Pole time + amount of qualified players.
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Kiriman lama #143 dikirim Okt 13 2020, 15:39:26 Sebut 
I have one concern, my free sponsor last season demanded the 1 spot on the car I had a sponsor just signed for 25 races, so I have it sat at 100 for almost 2 seasons. So as long as free sponsors don't count its fine for me, or free sponsors don't care about where they are
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Kiriman lama #144 dikirim Okt 13 2020, 15:44:38 Sebut 
Quote ( Matthew Dunn @ October 13th 2020,15:39:26 )

I have one concern, my free sponsor last season demanded the 1 spot on the car I had a sponsor just signed for 25 races


i wish we had the choice to place the free sponsor where we want. same reason as yours Matthew.
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Kiriman lama #145 dikirim Okt 13 2020, 16:26:11 Sebut 
Quote ( Rick Queary @ October 13th 2020,15:44:38 )

Quote ( Matthew Dunn @ October 13th 2020,15:39:26 )

I have one concern, my free sponsor last season demanded the 1 spot on the car I had a sponsor just signed for 25 races

i wish we had the choice to place the free sponsor where we want. same reason as yours Matthew.


You do have some choice. It depends on your choices with all your sponsors where it can be placed. Good management can yield very good results.
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Kiriman lama #146 dikirim Okt 13 2020, 16:48:55 (terakhir disunting Okt 13 2020, 16:59:18 oleh Michal Szopinski) Sebut 
Issue with the change to the driver and TD market will be that some people will leave it late anyway and won't mind to pay extra to snatch a good driver. All it will do is make it much more expensive in a long run to sign up a decent long term driver, and harder to land the driver and the TD you want. It's going to get more expensive. So advantage goes to those who are cashed up...again.

E: Btw, if you can't login the day of the market, you'll be disadvantaged by having to pay more. Not really fair.
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Kiriman lama #147 dikirim Okt 14 2020, 00:46:07 Sebut 
VERY BAD ... I am not an opinion on forums, but if I read them, I am not a fan of the game and that is why I will never reach the main categories, but the changes seem ridiculous ... more for people like In my case, where the most important thing is not to go bankrupt, that is, my economy is horrible and it may be my fault for not spending more time playing the game, but I never read or at least I don't remember someone complaining about the low prizes they put out, I can't believe that the prizes don't cover the wear and tear of a career and if we add the "new changes" to that, what do you want to play?

Of course, when it comes to charging their own money to be a supporter, their hand does not shake.
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Kiriman lama #148 dikirim Okt 14 2020, 20:11:13 (terakhir disunting Okt 14 2020, 20:12:13 oleh Jesús Brea) Sebut 
Quote ( Rimantas Sagatas @ October 11th 2020,17:29:42 )

If it was decided that late staff offers should be more pricey to make it up for people who can't be online close to the market deadline, then we should also consider having dynamic prices for qualifying laps. Closer to qualifying deadline should be more costly compared to laps run early, when you have no knowledge about rivals pace. Maybe it is less relevant in lower groups, but it is crucial in Elite, especially for people in a title fight. If you want to be last guy with the most info possible, then pay more ;)


That is interesting, but the game have some rules. You can do your q´s before 18:30, people Who is waiting until the last minutes have their right to do it, you can also do the same if you want. These people already are starting the race with less energy, so they can push less than others.
But pay more money when they are within the law and following the rules in my opinion isn´t right.
So maybe instead of paying more money could be better advance classifying time.

And about the personal, nothing will change, people willl wait until deadline and make their offers. So the market is going to be more expensive for all of us, that´s all.
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Kiriman lama #149 dikirim Okt 15 2020, 14:21:01 Sebut 
I believe that the sponsor change is right ...
but I find it completely incorrect to penalize those who have worked hard in these seasons to be able to save
If this change will cause you to lose these old saved sponsors without giving them the possibility to use them it will be an incorrect change, I hope it is not this ..
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Kiriman lama #150 dikirim Okt 15 2020, 15:22:42 (terakhir disunting Okt 15 2020, 15:23:15 oleh Henrique Hughes Paunero) Sebut 
Quote ( Antonio Gattulli @ October 15th 2020,14:21:01 )

I believe that the sponsor change is right ...
but I find it completely incorrect to penalize those who have worked hard in these seasons to be able to save
If this change will cause you to lose these old saved sponsors without giving them the possibility to use them it will be an incorrect change, I hope it is not this ..


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