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Christophe Verbist
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Kiriman lama #1 dikirim Apr 10 2009, 15:26:17 (terakhir disunting Apr 10 2009, 15:26:55 oleh Christophe Verbist) Sebut 
Well I've talked about this on another thread but now I want to know what you think of it.

If you don't know what I'm talking about please check the other thread : /forum/ViewTopic.asp?TopicId=8568. It talks about the humidity and that we should adapted it to the scientic facts and rules. If you read the first to pages you will know what it is about.

So I can't wait what you think. If you don't understand it from the other thread I will be glad to explain it again. Feel free to discuss some more.
Greetings from Belgium.
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Kiriman lama #2 dikirim Apr 10 2009, 15:28:02 Sebut 
This is a game, not real life. GPRO follows its own rules on weather and stuff.
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Kiriman lama #3 dikirim Apr 10 2009, 15:29:19 Sebut 
No otherwise all our data is useless!
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Kiriman lama #4 dikirim Apr 10 2009, 15:32:09 Sebut 
I love Gpro :D
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Kiriman lama #5 dikirim Apr 10 2009, 15:32:45 Sebut 
hey Christophe Verbist

the answer is global warming ;]
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Kiriman lama #6 dikirim Apr 10 2009, 15:56:10 Sebut 
Quote ( Christophe Verbist @ April 10th 2009,15:26:17 )

we should adapted it to the scientic facts and rules


Again, welcome to GPRO where the entire track is completely wet the second it starts raining and completely dry the second it stops.

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Kiriman lama #7 dikirim Apr 10 2009, 16:02:05 (terakhir disunting Apr 10 2009, 16:11:23 oleh Renato Svaiter) Sebut 
Christophe,

The way you put it, GPRO is wrong and you are right.

I have to disagree that rains occur only when Humidity reaches 100%

Im an airplane pilot and I know about weather; it has to do with clouds formation, altitude, the reading on Psychrometer/Hygrometer (dunno how to translate the condensation parameter).

I saw thousands of time when it rains, without reaching 100% humidity; so you better do your research again ! Dont you have Homework to do ??


EDIT: FOUND IT ON WIKI

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dew_point
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Kiriman lama #8 dikirim Apr 10 2009, 16:03:46 Sebut 
err... I thought that subject was finished on the proofs I showed...
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Kiriman lama #9 dikirim Apr 10 2009, 16:05:05 Sebut 
I got an error in voting, but i would have voted no, it is only a game!
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Kiriman lama #10 dikirim Apr 10 2009, 16:05:26 Sebut 
Quote ( Marcelo Michelini @ April 10th 2009,16:03:46 )

err... I thought that subject was finished on the proofs I showed...


Apparently not :)
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Kiriman lama #11 dikirim Apr 10 2009, 16:15:16 Sebut 
Quote ( Aleks Bismarck @ April 10th 2009,15:56:10 )

Again, welcome to GPRO where the entire track is completely wet the second it starts raining and completely dry the second it stops.


Not the case. It is wet once its rained sufficiently to wet the track. Not the moment of gpro virtual rain drops. In other words, it was was most likly raining a lap or 2 before the track conditions became wet. This also applies to the drying process of the track
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Kiriman lama #12 dikirim Apr 10 2009, 16:23:41 Sebut 
Quote ( Aaron Hughes @ April 10th 2009,16:15:16 )

Not the case. It is wet once its rained sufficiently to wet the track. Not the moment of gpro virtual rain drops. In other words, it was was most likly raining a lap or 2 before the track conditions became wet. This also applies to the drying process of the track


Are you sure? Because I can still see the little picture with the clouds and rain just before the rain stops. So... you are saying that the track is getting drier while it keeps raining!! That makes sense! :P
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Kiriman lama #13 dikirim Apr 10 2009, 16:26:21 Sebut 
Quote ( Sotiris Hatzisavas @ April 10th 2009,16:23:41 )

So... you are saying that the track is getting drier while it keeps raining!! That makes sense!


Dont be daft, im saying the track is still wet after it stops raining for a lap or 2 lol
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Kiriman lama #14 dikirim Apr 10 2009, 16:28:10 Sebut 
I believe the rules point out that the whole track becomes wet the instant the rain starts, and dries out the instant it stops. Not realistic but far easier to model
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Kiriman lama #15 dikirim Apr 10 2009, 16:28:22 Sebut 
well...
every one knows (I HOPE) that the GPRO weather forecast is not 100% right...
so they can mistake all the time...and Christophe is right...
or they are right and Christophe wrong...
who know? U.U
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Kiriman lama #16 dikirim Apr 10 2009, 16:28:41 Sebut 
Christophe... it does happen in GPRO exactly like it happens in real life. The idea that it rains only at 100% humidity is a myth. Please go back and relearn whatever you learned this in.
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Kiriman lama #17 dikirim Apr 10 2009, 16:35:32 (terakhir disunting Apr 10 2009, 16:35:55 oleh Mark Fox) Sebut 
Quote ( Chinmay Dhopate @ April 10th 2009,16:28:41 )

The idea that it rains only at 100% humidity is a myth. Please go back and relearn whatever you learned this in.


To clarify, raindrops only form when the relative humidity exceeds 100%, but this is applies up in the cloud layer - there is no requirement for the humidity at ground level to be high at all.
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Kiriman lama #18 dikirim Apr 10 2009, 16:43:18 Sebut 
Quote ( Mark Fox @ April 10th 2009,16:35:32 )

there is no requirement for the humidity at ground level to be high at all.


Ofc thats obvious, rain drops arnt forming down here at ground level but up there ( points to clouds overhead)
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Kiriman lama #19 dikirim Apr 10 2009, 16:50:24 Sebut 
Quote ( Jake Stothard @ April 10th 2009,15:29:19 )

No otherwise all our data is useless!


and what if all your collected data will be compromised? then we will have all same chances! that scares you? :D
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Kiriman lama #20 dikirim Apr 10 2009, 16:51:42 Sebut 
....who cares.......the specific science of this is totally irrelevant in GPRO.......this is a game :D
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Kiriman lama #21 dikirim Apr 10 2009, 16:53:03 Sebut 
some people take games waaaaaay 2 serious
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Kiriman lama #22 dikirim Apr 10 2009, 16:53:31 Sebut 
Quote ( Mark Fox @ April 10th 2009,16:35:32 )

To clarify, raindrops only form when the relative humidity exceeds 100%, but this is applies up in the cloud layer - there is no requirement for the humidity at ground level to be high at all.


Correct.
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Kiriman lama #23 dikirim Apr 10 2009, 17:05:44 Sebut 


I did not vote as the options are incorrect and misleading in regards to the question. As far as I'm concerned the game is more closely based on reality than misinterpreted scientific fact

Personally I have a weather station in my house (okay it's actually outside my house but the readouts are inside)

We have NEVER had 100% humidity. NEVER EVER!!!!
Last week it rained for three days straight and it averaged around 60% to 70% humidity. Even days on the lake when a seriously pea soup heavy fog rolls in you don't get 100% humidity

The highest level of humidity we had last summer was around 93 or 94% ( I don't remmber which but I know it didn't break 95% at all)and there was not even a remote chance of precipitation that day, the temps were in the 90's and that was absolutely BRUTAL (thank Kevin for air conditioning) You would step outside and your clothes would immediately stick to you and you had a noticably more difficult time breathing

I lived in Florida for 10 years and even during a hurricane you don't get humidity readings of 100%

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Kiriman lama #24 dikirim Apr 10 2009, 17:07:15 Sebut 
GPRO SCIENTISTS AT WORK :D
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Kiriman lama #25 dikirim Apr 10 2009, 17:12:50 Sebut 
Quote ( Renato Svaiter @ April 10th 2009,16:02:05 )

Christophe,

The way you put it, GPRO is wrong and you are right.

I have to disagree that rains occur only when Humidity reaches 100%

Im an airplane pilot and I know about weather; it has to do with clouds formation, altitude, the reading on Psychrometer/Hygrometer (dunno how to translate the condensation parameter).

I saw thousands of time when it rains, without reaching 100% humidity; so you better do your research again ! Dont you have Homework to do ??


as i am an airline pilot to..i totly agree with our friend Renato
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Kiriman lama #26 dikirim Apr 10 2009, 17:17:06 Sebut 
Quote ( Kevin Smythe @ April 10th 2009,17:05:44 )

The highest level of humidity we had last summer was around 93 or 94% ( I don't remmber which but I know it didn't break 95% at all)and there was not even a remote chance of precipitation that day, the temps were in the 90's and that was absolutely BRUTAL


That's the type of climate I lived about 18 years of my life in, and have come to love and enjoy :p
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Kiriman lama #27 dikirim Apr 10 2009, 17:22:02 (terakhir disunting Apr 10 2009, 17:22:17 oleh Robert Byrne) Sebut 
Quote ( Christophe Verbist @ April 10th 2009,15:26:17 )

If you don't know what I'm talking about please check the other thread : /forum/ViewTopic.asp?TopicId=8568.


1 silly question!! If there is already a thread about this (as you already posted a link to) why did you start another??

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Kiriman lama #28 dikirim Apr 10 2009, 17:43:35 Sebut 
For the poll!
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Kiriman lama #29 dikirim Apr 10 2009, 17:46:08 Sebut 
Humidity is already taken into account in weather decisions in GPRO...

If Vlad gets too sweaty, he reaches for the big red button that makes it rain to cool him down a little...
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Kiriman lama #30 dikirim Apr 10 2009, 17:46:37 Sebut 
Quote ( Jordan Randall @ April 10th 2009,17:07:15 )

GPRO SCIENTISTS AT WORK :D


I miss the time when they put fire on people that try to make new trues U.U

but if you want change the "world" (GPRO'S World)... try to use the scientific method U.U

1-see...
2-make a question...
3-try to prove your question...
4-and after say what you discovered...

I think Christophe did not completed the number 3 and go to number 4 U.U
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