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Oud bericht #121 geplaatst Aug 29 2011, 23:12:37 Quote 
Quote ( Lucas Dantas @ August 29th 2011,21:14:29 )

Senna!
Talent earned by his blood.


Yet many great champions had siblings; And only one have achieved the same, win a F1 championship.
Others had nephews too, Juan Manuel Fangio, for example, and his nephew even though he was a good driver never made it.
And F1 champions brother's, Shumacher Ralf and Michael, Sheckter Ian and Jody, Etc.
As you see having the same last name does not make anyone talented.
We all miss Ayrton, but lets judge with real performances, not only with other drivers achievements.
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Oud bericht #122 geplaatst Aug 29 2011, 23:14:51 Quote 
Quote ( Mariano Marchesan @ August 29th 2011,23:12:37 )

We all miss Ayrton, but lets judge with real performances, not only with other drivers achievements.

+1 very well said. Still, B. Senna is a good driver. Maybe better than the current Heidfeld, maybe not, one race isn't enough to judge, but he has shown that he is a good driver (after the initial crashes his pace was good).
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Oud bericht #123 geplaatst Aug 29 2011, 23:20:30 Quote 
Quote ( Zsifkó Ferenc @ August 29th 2011,19:27:23 )

But he had to stay away for 1 (or 2 ?) years. He needs some time as we can see it with Michael...


Half a year in 2010 is all he missed, and that was half filled with Pirelli testing.
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Oud bericht #124 geplaatst Aug 29 2011, 23:30:27 Quote 
Nick is too old. :/
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Oud bericht #125 geplaatst Aug 30 2011, 15:35:00 (laatst aangepast Aug 30 2011, 15:35:36 door Jim Williamson) Quote 
Nick is not too old and was placed in a no-win situation. I think the team have done him dirty. They should have let him run the race with the upgraded car to see how he rated.

The car is a dog this year and they have done a poor job developing it up to this point. When Vitaly says it was a big improvement and they are still down where they were, that says a lot to me.

Senna is a name...a mythical name in F1. Bruno is lucky to have that name as it has carried him very far. He has talent, but is he better than Nick? I dont' think so.

I don't see Senna beating Vitaly if he stays in the car the remainder of the season. I am sure somehow that will be Nick's fault to according to Boullier.
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Oud bericht #126 geplaatst Aug 30 2011, 18:42:12 Quote 
Quote ( Wittmann Zsolt @ August 29th 2011,23:30:27 )

Nick is too old. :/


MSC: 42 years old

Webber: 35 years old(Once at the same team with Nick and had equal good results, but now sits in a Red Bull)

So what "he's too old"?:|

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Oud bericht #127 geplaatst Aug 30 2011, 18:43:01 Quote 
nick is more experience
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Oud bericht #128 geplaatst Aug 30 2011, 18:56:04 (laatst aangepast Aug 30 2011, 18:59:51 door William Ofosuhene) Quote 
Senna should have replaced Kubica at the start of the season, so i dont know why Heidfeld is taking Renault to court
Quote ( David Jundt @ August 30th 2011,18:42:12 )

Webber: 35 years old(Once at the same team with Nick and had equal good results, but now sits in a Red Bull)So what "he's too old"?:|

Webber and Heidfeld aren't too old, they just can't keep up
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Oud bericht #129 geplaatst Aug 30 2011, 19:05:54 Quote 
SENNA! Heidfeld got uncompetetive and boring solets see if Senna can do better, ultimatly though I want to see Kubica back!
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Oud bericht #130 geplaatst Aug 30 2011, 19:28:32 (laatst aangepast Aug 30 2011, 19:32:41 door Pero Jurakic) Quote 
Quote ( Ricardo Ercoli @ August 29th 2011,22:02:22 )

Senna is a disgraca for the family Senna, he can be a good driver, but is far to be a F1 driver...like Massa


Whoa, man! Massa sucks big time, he only won races from pole position and all of his teammates were 1st drivers to him. He is totally an average driver and for little Senna we'll just have to wait and see and not judge him by a few races in poor HRT or one race in Renault. If Massa was in a car like McLaren 1993 with Senna he would have gone as far as Michael Andretti at most... He may be a nice guy, but he is no champion driver.

p.s. Bruno has a LOT of pressure on his shoulders considering the name he is carrying and considering his lack of experience-what can he do in only one race to impress critics? Hard to say... let's give him more time to prove his talent.
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Oud bericht #131 geplaatst Aug 30 2011, 19:33:32 Quote 
i like bruno senna
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Oud bericht #132 geplaatst Aug 30 2011, 19:38:00 Quote 
Heidfeld, he has some good results and I think he may do better with more experience than Senna, though he also did well in spa apart from the early crash
Anyway, lets wait until Monza to see if Bruno can do it better
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Oud bericht #133 geplaatst Sep 1 2011, 00:45:11 Quote 
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Oud bericht #134 geplaatst Sep 1 2011, 00:48:26 Quote 
i'd rather pick Heidfeld,Senna needs more races to prove he has talent
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Oud bericht #135 geplaatst Sep 3 2011, 01:24:22 Quote 
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Oud bericht #136 geplaatst Sep 3 2011, 01:30:18 Quote 
If you have something to say, do it. If not, stop posting full-stops.
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Oud bericht #137 geplaatst Sep 3 2011, 03:13:43 Quote 
Senna is better than Nick !
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Oud bericht #138 geplaatst Sep 3 2011, 03:15:32 Quote 
at what? - Bridge or dog hunting?
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Oud bericht #139 geplaatst Sep 3 2011, 04:25:06 Quote 
SENNA!!
BRAZIL!!
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Oud bericht #140 geplaatst Sep 3 2011, 04:35:10 Quote 
Senna.

Classic name and brillant driver.

Top 10 on debut for Renault at Spa.
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Oud bericht #141 geplaatst Sep 3 2011, 04:48:00 Quote 
$enna ha$ $omething that Heidfield doe$n't have...
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Oud bericht #142 geplaatst Sep 3 2011, 05:55:56 Quote 
Rio Haryanto!
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Oud bericht #143 geplaatst Sep 3 2011, 07:17:10 Quote 
Nick Heidfeld!
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Oud bericht #144 geplaatst Sep 3 2011, 08:33:43 Quote 
Quote ( Daniel Benefield @ September 3rd 2011,04:35:10 )

Top 10 on debut for Renault at Spa.


Were you watching the same race as I was? I clearly remember him finishing 13th. And qualifying is just one thing, and that was a wet session too...
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Oud bericht #145 geplaatst Sep 3 2011, 15:26:18 Quote 
Quote ( Pero Jurakic @ August 30th 2011,19:28:32 )

Whoa, man! Massa sucks big time


Massa sux just after his huge accident a couple of years ago, but before that he was amazing and if he sux he Ferrari wouldn't have renwed his contract continously
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Oud bericht #146 geplaatst Sep 3 2011, 15:36:15 Quote 
Well theres definately no chance of Heidfeld coming back to Renault, the legal dispute has been sorted out and he's left under mutual concent.
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Oud bericht #147 geplaatst Sep 5 2011, 07:44:43 Quote 
yes bruno isnt as a complete driver as heidfeld, but what he has is a ythful brain and learns quickly. Obviously the reason his in the car is because he brightens up the team spirit and in F1 that counts for alot,. End of the day 1 man doesnt win a race, the whole background team do.as Redbull clearly show.

Heidfeld jus wasnt motivated enough to cause the team to be excited about races and therefore contributed to the bad run he/renault lotus have had of late.

SIMPLY PUT!
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Oud bericht #148 geplaatst Sep 6 2011, 00:04:43 Quote 
It seems that there are more brasilian votes than german...
And the vote reult is proving it so far...
I think that Heidfeld is a better driver.
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Oud bericht #149 geplaatst Sep 6 2011, 00:41:29 Quote 
yes, but senna it's a novice with a great talent.
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Oud bericht #150 geplaatst Sep 6 2011, 01:13:58 Quote 
Bruno Senna has revealed a talent which was not good and he began to run later if he had started at the right time surely now he would be the pilot or Ferrari or McLaren causing the Massa or Alonso were behind your talent because this is the talent in your DNA Senna driving for perfection
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